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lukaszkam

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Joined: 3/24/05
Posts: 28

10/22/09 6:30:24 PM#26

yep, Aion is the best MMO - for some

 

now, I'm going back to LotRO :)

Korhindi

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Joined: 7/31/08
Posts: 346

10/22/09 6:33:57 PM#27

You know, I am currently enjoying Aion, but I wouldn't call it the best MMO ever.

Well, it might be the best MMO ever for YOU, and that's cool, but for me it is just an entertaining game... good, but not the best in my opinion.

I am curious about the MMO's I haven't heard of.  Care to share?  Were these any good?  Did they actually make it to release?

Not trolling here, Just currious.

Blank300

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Joined: 11/09/08
Posts: 19

 
10/22/09 9:09:07 PM#28

The games I have played if you must know, and since you are persistant enough are:

Everquest beta and throughout

EQ2

DAOC Beta and throughout

SWG

Horizons

Shadowbane Beta

FF

Phantasy star online

Auto Assault beta

Earth and beyond

AO

WoW Beta

AOC Beta

Warhammer Age of reckoning Beta

Eve

Planet side Beta

CoH CoV Beta

Fallen earth Beta

Tabul Rasa Beta

Vanguard saga of heroes

Champions Online

Sims Online

Phantasy star Blue Burst

Y's Online ( Japenese )

Ragnaroc Online

Huxley Beta

Runescape

Ultima Online

Aion Beta

There's a few F2P MMo's as well but I am only listing the ones worth mentioning.As far as upcomming MMOS that are interesting is APB , Star wars the old republic, The Secret World, and Huxley. Huxley is really fun like a Planet side MMO check it out.

But out of those MMOS I mentioned to me Aion is a fun, well balanced game compared to the others.

 

crunchyblack

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Joined: 1/23/08
Posts: 1097

10/22/09 9:22:25 PM#29
Originally posted by Blank300

The games I have played if you must know, and since you are persistant enough are:

Everquest beta and throughout

EQ2

DAOC Beta and throughout

SWG

Horizons

Shadowbane Beta

FF

Phantasy star online

Auto Assault beta

Earth and beyond

AO

WoW Beta

AOC Beta

Warhammer Age of reckoning Beta

Eve

Planet side Beta

CoH CoV Beta

Fallen earth Beta

Tabul Rasa Beta

Vanguard saga of heroes

Champions Online

Sims Online

Phantasy star Blue Burst

Y's Online ( Japenese )

Ragnaroc Online

Huxley Beta

Runescape

Ultima Online

Aion Beta

There's a few F2P MMo's as well but I am only listing the ones worth mentioning.As far as upcomming MMOS that are interesting is APB , Star wars the old republic, The Secret World, and Huxley. Huxley is really fun like a Planet side MMO check it out.

But out of those MMOS I mentioned to me Aion is a fun, well balanced game compared to the others.

 


 

Why do people post huge lists of games theyve played like its a badge of honor?

say youve been mmorpg'ing since 2000 or whatever, all the log list does, is give the appearance that you played each game a short period of time, meaning you lack in dephth knowledge.  Personally im more impressed with people who have played a few games for a really long time...they are usualy the pros (pro refering to the game as a whole not uberleet pvper who botted to endgame and the use a gold farmer to get the gear)

Aion is fun, but its nothing special, it does get dry untill the abyss, not sure 35+ but everyone tells me theres really no point not to just grind in the abyss, other than boredome.

Next step: how is aion at endgame? not like how it is for the few who get there first but when the bulk of the game gets there...will it hold players or be full of laggy and buggy endgame versions of what everyone doing right now?

Mike221

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Joined: 1/17/04
Posts: 41

10/23/09 2:32:56 AM#30

Small list of GOOD Mmo's you've played for an extensive amount of time surpasses large list of mmos that you played briefly.

Also proper English please.

 

 

 

(Also you should probably remove Runescape from the list, wearing it as a merit is a bad idea)

demongoat

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 9

10/23/09 3:19:39 AM#31
Originally posted by supbro
Originally posted by Blank300

Aion is by far the best mmo ever made, some people may say it's boring and comparing it to WoW, some say that there is too much of a " Grind " every MMO has it's grind even WoW , and personaly, wow's grind was even worse, looking at a cheaply created character swing a sword or whatever in the same distasteful way over and over is almost enough to make you hurl.

What I find funny is people comparing WoW to Aion, they are both different games, but in my opion, Aion takes it. The game is balanced in the PvePvP section of the game, even wows PvP system is a god damn joke, make a ret pally and you'll be unstoppable, I think if blizzard changed the PvP system to a more balanced, equaled system, people would leave that shitty excuse for a mmo in a heart beat.

The reason why some people leave Aion is because the game is too " Hardcore " for them, they can't handle a true raid, or true PvP let alone the crafting where you actualy have to WORK to make something. These people want a cookie cutter MMO, if that is the case, then you wasted fifty bucks on buying Aion, to those WoW Fanbois out there, if ya can't handle Aion, gtfo and go play your little newb toons in WoW, or stick with your consoles because those are the only things you can play!

 

Alot of the WoW kids wont be able to handle a game like Aion. Their used being handed free epics and instance meaningless PvP. Thankfully Aion has none of those features, its a game made for the MMO purist.

OP there's is a reason AION was reviewed as the best game ever released on this very site.... everyone in Aion is having a blast!

 

lol aion is made for mmo purists? what a load of crap.

aion doesn't hold a candle to real mmo games, like daoc, eq, or AO, heck Wow is better than aion, and i didn't really like Wow all that much.

the only reason Aion was reviewed as the best game ever released is more likely because the reviewer was a fanboy and suckered by NCsofts promises to make a good western version of Aion.

when in fact Aion is still way too much like every other asian grinder out there, they just made the quests worth more, but didn't make the game anymore fun or interesting.

Zorndorf

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Posts: 3496

10/23/09 4:10:12 AM#32

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.

Angorim

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Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 175

10/23/09 5:22:21 AM#33
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.


 

Congratulations.  You compared a game that's been released for a fraction of the time to one that has massive funding released 5 years ago.  Please make more perfect comparisons such as this.

I'm no fan of Aion in the least, but this is just another idiotic fanboy post by this idiot.

Raztor

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Posts: 668

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EvE Trader

10/23/09 5:23:04 AM#34

 What Exactly is Aion best at? On my way up to lvl17 I didn't see anything new, only restrictive gameplay and a guided tour along the themepark.

 

Everything in Aion has been done before and better in other games. The only thing that Aion has going for it is that it is polished and runs well on most computers. Most gamers today find that pressing 123 for 8 hours straight to get 1/4 of a level isn't hardcore or difficult or innovative. It doesn't make you hardcore or skilful, it just shows that you have way too free time.

Raztor

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Joined: 12/19/06
Posts: 668

EQ-WoW raider
EvE Trader

10/23/09 5:24:03 AM#35
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.


 

Congratulations.  You compared a game that's been released for a month to one that has massive funding released 5 years ago.  Please make more perfect comparisons such as this, you're such a genius.

I'm no fan of Aion in the least, but this is just another idiotic fanboy post by this idiot.

Aion has been released for 1+ year now. It hasn't just "been released". 

bloodaxes

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Joined: 3/03/09
Posts: 952

10/23/09 5:28:39 AM#36
Originally posted by Raztor
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.

 

Congratulations.  You compared a game that's been released for a month to one that has massive funding released 5 years ago.  Please make more perfect comparisons such as this, you're such a genius.

I'm no fan of Aion in the least, but this is just another idiotic fanboy post by this idiot.

Aion has been released for 1+ year now. It hasn't just "been released". 

Not even a year out in the east plus it's considered "new" here because aion here was launched with the older version then they updated on it.

 

Angorim

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Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 175

10/23/09 5:29:41 AM#37
Originally posted by Raztor
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.


 

Congratulations.  You compared a game that's been released for a month to one that has massive funding released 5 years ago.  Please make more perfect comparisons such as this, you're such a genius.

I'm no fan of Aion in the least, but this is just another idiotic fanboy post by this idiot.

Aion has been released for 1+ year now. It hasn't just "been released". 

You're correct, my mistake.  However, I would assume there are major differences to the localized NA version other than text/voice acting.

Demz2

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/28/07
Posts: 460

10/23/09 5:31:30 AM#38
Originally posted by supbro
Originally posted by Blank300

Aion is by far the best mmo ever made, some people may say it's boring and comparing it to WoW, some say that there is too much of a " Grind " every MMO has it's grind even WoW , and personaly, wow's grind was even worse, looking at a cheaply created character swing a sword or whatever in the same distasteful way over and over is almost enough to make you hurl.

What I find funny is people comparing WoW to Aion, they are both different games, but in my opion, Aion takes it. The game is balanced in the PvePvP section of the game, even wows PvP system is a god damn joke, make a ret pally and you'll be unstoppable, I think if blizzard changed the PvP system to a more balanced, equaled system, people would leave that shitty excuse for a mmo in a heart beat.

The reason why some people leave Aion is because the game is too " Hardcore " for them, they can't handle a true raid, or true PvP let alone the crafting where you actualy have to WORK to make something. These people want a cookie cutter MMO, if that is the case, then you wasted fifty bucks on buying Aion, to those WoW Fanbois out there, if ya can't handle Aion, gtfo and go play your little newb toons in WoW, or stick with your consoles because those are the only things you can play!

 

Alot of the WoW kids wont be able to handle a game like Aion. Their used being handed free epics and instance meaningless PvP. Thankfully Aion has none of those features, its a game made for the MMO purist.

OP there's is a reason AION was reviewed as the best game ever released on this very site.... everyone in Aion is having a blast!

 

 

Is this some sort of joke???? or are u actually being seriuos?  If so plz once agai lay of the crack.  MmO FOR PURISTS.......lol........HAHAHAHAH

Papamac

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/28/08
Posts: 24

10/23/09 5:41:57 AM#39
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.

Congratulations.  You compared a game that's been released for a fraction of the time to one that has massive funding released 5 years ago.  Please make more perfect comparisons such as this.

I'm no fan of Aion in the least, but this is just another idiotic fanboy post by this idiot.


 

Um, Aion isn't competing with the WoW that was released 5 years ago. It's competing with the WoW that people are playing right now. Some people just don't get it.

Blank300

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/09/08
Posts: 19

 
10/23/09 8:08:44 AM#40

Lack of depth and Knowledge thats funny, I've played EQ since 1998 beta to 2006 you do the math plus WoW for 3 years , the rest were like max5-9 months of play, I played alot of these games not 1 at a time but sometimes 3-4 for testing purposes.

I don't need to further defend myself against people who really don't believe or care, so if you have nother constructive to say keep it to yourself and stop being a kid!

tanoril

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Joined: 1/12/06
Posts: 172

10/23/09 8:36:53 AM#41
Originally posted by Papamac
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Feature by feature? Want to compare with WOW 2009? Go ahead.

I'll save you the needless effort : I would say a 100 to 1 lacking features. Beginning at the various level 1 zones (first quest) and ending at Algalon and everything in between.

Of course every dude can add " IMO", but look at the many  features not in this game that are ALREADY in Wow 2009 from which it was a copycat.

I'll start with one of the main options: leveling through PvP.

Congratulations.  You compared a game that's been released for a fraction of the time to one that has massive funding released 5 years ago.  Please make more perfect comparisons such as this.

I'm no fan of Aion in the least, but this is just another idiotic fanboy post by this idiot.


 

Um, Aion isn't competing with the WoW that was released 5 years ago. It's competing with the WoW that people are playing right now. Some people just don't get it.

 

This right here.  Stop trying to compare yourself to when the game launched in 2004. 

Sunioj

Novice Member

Joined: 8/08/09
Posts: 144

10/23/09 8:38:40 AM#42

Aion is a fantastic looking game with alot going for it, however the horrible XP system, loot drop and grind is taking away from it.  Some better balance is what will keep this game on track and keep people playing.

NcSoft has perfected the paid for grindfest, and I am sad because of it :-(

Anthara

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Joined: 8/14/06
Posts: 52

10/23/09 10:58:56 AM#43
Originally posted by Blank300

Aion is by far the best mmo ever made, some people may say it's boring and comparing it to WoW, some say that there is too much of a " Grind " every MMO has it's grind even WoW , and personaly, wow's grind was even worse, looking at a cheaply created character swing a sword or whatever in the same distasteful way over and over is almost enough to make you hurl.

What I find funny is people comparing WoW to Aion, they are both different games, but in my opion, Aion takes it. The game is balanced in the PvePvP section of the game, even wows PvP system is a god damn joke, make a ret pally and you'll be unstoppable, I think if blizzard changed the PvP system to a more balanced, equaled system, people would leave that shitty excuse for a mmo in a heart beat.

The reason why some people leave Aion is because the game is too " Hardcore " for them, they can't handle a true raid, or true PvP let alone the crafting where you actualy have to WORK to make something. These people want a cookie cutter MMO, if that is the case, then you wasted fifty bucks on buying Aion, to those WoW Fanbois out there, if ya can't handle Aion, gtfo and go play your little newb toons in WoW, or stick with your consoles because those are the only things you can play!

 

Rofl at you dude. You either got 16 years old, more or less, or you freakin stupid.

Your game is the TRUTH DUDE!!! Thats how MMO's shoudl be MAN. And everyone playing anything else is FKG stupid and got no SKILLZZZ. Freaking easymode games.. L2P or go back to your console game man!!!!

God told me that ALLLLLLLL MMO's should be like this. AAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL

HARD WORK MAN (while my mommy cooks and my dad brings food home), this IZZ ZE HARD WORKZ! Fact!!

The day you got 3 children to feed and have to work 8 hours a day or more and understand that some ppl like yellow more than red, maybe youll grow a common sense and some maturity. Cheers /pitty

deviladvent

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/21/07
Posts: 48

10/23/09 11:19:27 AM#44
Originally posted by Blank300

Aion is by far the best mmo ever made, some people may say it's boring and comparing it to WoW, some say that there is too much of a " Grind " every MMO has it's grind even WoW , and personaly, wow's grind was even worse, looking at a cheaply created character swing a sword or whatever in the same distasteful way over and over is almost enough to make you hurl.

What I find funny is people comparing WoW to Aion, they are both different games, but in my opion, Aion takes it. The game is balanced in the PvePvP section of the game, even wows PvP system is a god damn joke, make a ret pally and you'll be unstoppable, I think if blizzard changed the PvP system to a more balanced, equaled system, people would leave that shitty excuse for a mmo in a heart beat.

The reason why some people leave Aion is because the game is too " Hardcore " for them, they can't handle a true raid, or true PvP let alone the crafting where you actualy have to WORK to make something. These people want a cookie cutter MMO, if that is the case, then you wasted fifty bucks on buying Aion, to those WoW Fanbois out there, if ya can't handle Aion, gtfo and go play your little newb toons in WoW, or stick with your consoles because those are the only things you can play!

Oh my dear , so much of crap here ! you are a Aion fanboy  and an sian head troll. just check his fanboy posts.... happy noodle and grinding. you like this kind of asian grinding games  ? well done be happy , lots of other asians will love the hair styles in Aion too !! just chill a bit and be general and logic.

Blank300

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/09/08
Posts: 19

 
10/23/09 1:27:03 PM#45
Originally posted by Anthara
Originally posted by Blank300

Aion is by far the best mmo ever made, some people may say it's boring and comparing it to WoW, some say that there is too much of a " Grind " every MMO has it's grind even WoW , and personaly, wow's grind was even worse, looking at a cheaply created character swing a sword or whatever in the same distasteful way over and over is almost enough to make you hurl.

What I find funny is people comparing WoW to Aion, they are both different games, but in my opion, Aion takes it. The game is balanced in the PvePvP section of the game, even wows PvP system is a god damn joke, make a ret pally and you'll be unstoppable, I think if blizzard changed the PvP system to a more balanced, equaled system, people would leave that shitty excuse for a mmo in a heart beat.

The reason why some people leave Aion is because the game is too " Hardcore " for them, they can't handle a true raid, or true PvP let alone the crafting where you actualy have to WORK to make something. These people want a cookie cutter MMO, if that is the case, then you wasted fifty bucks on buying Aion, to those WoW Fanbois out there, if ya can't handle Aion, gtfo and go play your little newb toons in WoW, or stick with your consoles because those are the only things you can play!

 

Rofl at you dude. You either got 16 years old, more or less, or you freakin stupid.

Your game is the TRUTH DUDE!!! Thats how MMO's shoudl be MAN. And everyone playing anything else is FKG stupid and got no SKILLZZZ. Freaking easymode games.. L2P or go back to your console game man!!!!

God told me that ALLLLLLLL MMO's should be like this. AAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL

HARD WORK MAN (while my mommy cooks and my dad brings food home), this IZZ ZE HARD WORKZ! Fact!!

The day you got 3 children to feed and have to work 8 hours a day or more and understand that some ppl like yellow more than red, maybe youll grow a common sense and some maturity. Cheers /pitty


 

LOL you just made no sense what so ever, before you insult someone or claim to know what your talking about, I suggest heading back to school and learning the " English " language and then come back and think of something to respond to this. What do you mean by " either you got 16 years old " ? Do I have 16 years of experience in games, or am I 16 years OLD? Which is it? Stay off of the drugs , go back to school and learn something, ... because my friend you need it , so ROFL at you, have a good day!

Thenarius

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 808

10/23/09 1:30:48 PM#46

Newsflash: Retribution paladins are balanced these days.
Oh and this is a fact but WoW's class balance will always be better than Aion's class balance.

Comparing MMOs with burger companies-the epitome of logic.

Blank300

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/09/08
Posts: 19

 
10/23/09 1:35:40 PM#47
Originally posted by deviladvent
Originally posted by Blank300

Aion is by far the best mmo ever made, some people may say it's boring and comparing it to WoW, some say that there is too much of a " Grind " every MMO has it's grind even WoW , and personaly, wow's grind was even worse, looking at a cheaply created character swing a sword or whatever in the same distasteful way over and over is almost enough to make you hurl.

What I find funny is people comparing WoW to Aion, they are both different games, but in my opion, Aion takes it. The game is balanced in the PvePvP section of the game, even wows PvP system is a god damn joke, make a ret pally and you'll be unstoppable, I think if blizzard changed the PvP system to a more balanced, equaled system, people would leave that shitty excuse for a mmo in a heart beat.

The reason why some people leave Aion is because the game is too " Hardcore " for them, they can't handle a true raid, or true PvP let alone the crafting where you actualy have to WORK to make something. These people want a cookie cutter MMO, if that is the case, then you wasted fifty bucks on buying Aion, to those WoW Fanbois out there, if ya can't handle Aion, gtfo and go play your little newb toons in WoW, or stick with your consoles because those are the only things you can play!

Oh my dear , so much of crap here ! you are a Aion fanboy  and an sian head troll. just check his fanboy posts.... happy noodle and grinding. you like this kind of asian grinding games  ? well done be happy , lots of other asians will love the hair styles in Aion too !! just chill a bit and be general and logic.

Whats full of crap here? Nothing I can see. I enjoy Aion and people like yourself, who never played the game will have that same outlook on this game, however, people that HAVE played this game will generaly agree with me. Funny how you call this a Asain grinder, I would consider any mmo out there a grinder, if you know what to look for, so don't give me that crap about general logic, do you even know what that word means? My guess is No, you don't. To add to this little chat we are having, since you are defending WoW, you must be a WoW fanboy who enjoys getting stuff for basicly doing jack shit , and or your one of those people who a raid fails or a wipe happens and you call everyone around you nubs, and then rage quit the group.
 

As stated above, if you have nothing constructive to say, and just being idiotic and stupid in your comments don't say anything and stick to something you can do best.Before you comment further, may want to ask yourself, what other MMOS have you played and what justifies your experience and therefore criticize what others say about the game that they play, and oh yeah before I forget, WoW Does'nt count as a true MMO good luck with that.

shylock1079

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Joined: 11/01/06
Posts: 30

10/23/09 2:03:45 PM#48

Ugh. Why do I click on these strangely broad generalizing forum posts? Why…Because I'm absolutely bored with Aion at 24 and don't have the desire to grind another character again. Aion, just as WoW, simply builds on other formulas and enhances some. Man, I don't even like WoW, but comparing them is like saying Kobe Bryant is better than Peyton Manning simply because they are both athletes. You know how dirty I feel forcing me to defend WoW? Aion is as much of a grind as any other Korean import. There is, of course, the slight exception that it includes not only repetitive kill quests to encourage and break up the monotony, but also establishes a revolutionary system of “deliver x scroll to z person.” Does it do some things right? Absolutely. But everything has been done before.
And if you judge hardcore audiences by saying they are the ones that play this game then you are mistaken. No...Your toy is not shinier than everyone else...and you haven't uncovered proof that no one else realizes.  I think what you actually mean is that you enjoy it more personally, which is cool.  Personally,  I'm bouncing between 4 mmo's because  all lack something, even Aion.  It's just another game that does little to move mmo originality foreword. But then why would it? Every game is trying to tap into the WoW audience by making slightly different versions of OTHER games out there. Look at what originality gets you in this market? Whatever happened to PoBS and EVE? I'm too old to argue...and trying to prove a moot point because I’m bored. Oh well, back to Aion.


Where are you DAoC2?
 

Cammy

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Joined: 8/22/06
Posts: 548

10/23/09 3:30:31 PM#49
Originally posted by Thenarius

Newsflash: Retribution paladins are balanced these days.
Oh and this is a fact but WoW's class balance will always be better than Aion's class balance.

 

Please.... c'mon...

 

There's a ton of stuff you can say WoW is better at than Aion. Class balance is NOT one of them

 

Whos the fanbois' around here? rofl... WoW PVP is a joke.... (yes I can jump on my lvl 80 to prove it just like you can) ;)

 

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