omg... LOL

Recommended servers means:

-New server

-Not so lagged as other servers

-Young community

Pls....

PS: sry my ing ;)

Originally posted by Cognoman

Originally posted by RendRegen

Originally posted by Cognoman

I actually liked tabula rasa, and if given the choice, I would pay for TR instead of Aion.

The good thing with Ncsoft is that they gave me Aion ce edition free cause i subscribed to TR till the end. 

Get real. Even if Aion is bad, TR was just plain awful.

 

TR was great.  No gold spammers, no need to bot, better wpns and nicer powers.   The classes they have are similar to the classes Global Agenda is using and everyone I know wants to play Global Agenda. 

If it was such a great game why did no one played it?

Yes, because a company doesnt unplug an MMO unless its loosing money heavily

No surprise, we all know many people wanted to try this game, but we also know many will go back to whatever MMO they were playing. It happens in every MMO is released. Some stay, some don't.

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Cognoman

Originally posted by RendRegen

Originally posted by Cognoman

I actually liked tabula rasa, and if given the choice, I would pay for TR instead of Aion.

The good thing with Ncsoft is that they gave me Aion ce edition free cause i subscribed to TR till the end. 

Get real. Even if Aion is bad, TR was just plain awful.

 

TR was great.  No gold spammers, no need to bot, better wpns and nicer powers.   The classes they have are similar to the classes Global Agenda is using and everyone I know wants to play Global Agenda. 

 

If it was such a great game why did no one played it?

Yes, because a company doesnt unplug an MMO unless its loosing money heavily

It wasn't necessarily losing money, just not making enough money to make it worthwhile or it could have more to do with Richard Garriott than even profits. Almost all MMO's are profitable to upkeep, it's just the initial development that is usually the problem. No, Tabula Rasa was profitable, just wasn't keeping the Shareholder's Equity happy.

Originally posted by FastTx

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Cognoman

Originally posted by RendRegen

Originally posted by Cognoman

I actually liked tabula rasa, and if given the choice, I would pay for TR instead of Aion.

The good thing with Ncsoft is that they gave me Aion ce edition free cause i subscribed to TR till the end. 

Get real. Even if Aion is bad, TR was just plain awful.

 

TR was great.  No gold spammers, no need to bot, better wpns and nicer powers.   The classes they have are similar to the classes Global Agenda is using and everyone I know wants to play Global Agenda. 

 

If it was such a great game why did no one played it?

Yes, because a company doesnt unplug an MMO unless its loosing money heavily

 

It wasn't necessarily losing money, just not making enough money to make it worthwhile or it could have more to do with Richard Garriott than even profits. Almost all MMO's are profitable to upkeep, it's just the initial development that is usually the problem. No, Tabula Rasa was profitable, just wasn't keeping the Shareholder's Equity happy.

Tabula Rasa was NOT profitable, and you are just fooling yourselve if you think it was.

Originally posted by Pharoin

What in the world?!!! How do u know the people quit? Because people are not on dosent mean that people are quitting. First i see people fuss about the waiting lines to play. Now u are complaining because there is no wait. About that clown who thought he was funny about the aerial combat thing. What did u think the fighting was gonna be like? U knew flying combat would be in the game. So what do u say about W.O.W players always jumping during combat and running around in circles? Oh and by the way u sitting in front of a computer screen for hours is not an awe inspiring picture either. So if u played Aion knowing that there would be dancing/ aerial combat and now u wanna make fun..that qualifies u as ignorant and a fool.

Down fanboi down! Just because people complained about the lines does not mean they want to play on empty servers, what it means is they want NC to upgrade their servers pretty simple stop going from one extreme to the other. It makes you look ignorant.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Yamota

Mind you a game can still be succesful even though it shows a steep decline, WAR has reportedly 250k subscribers now, and that is in no way a failure, it is just not a success that they expected.

Uh,  no. There is no way Warhammer has 250,000 subs now. Nothing even close to that. The 'official numebr at the end of December was 300,000.

If it has more than 100,000 now, I would be VERY surprised. I would not be surprised if it was less than 50, 000.

 

War's 5 NA and 5 EU servers means it has a maximum capacity now  of around 100K players. Less on Xfire.

At launch War had 113 NA/EU servers. In fact 106 but 7 servers ... were added because people had ... hours long queing lines the first 7 days... Does that ring a bell ? :)

War had a max population of around 800K which dwindled after the first and second month (not as fast as AoC but that was purely because it was the Hollidays season and new people ran in in Dec tx to the FREE trial introduction for Xmas). Something Aion could profite from too, but EA's distribution was MUCH more steamlined than NCSoft.

Aion first free month ends around the 28th (for EU it could be a day or two later).

Wanna see and watch the Xfire sinusoide (and remember there is around 100% oversampling error already between Aion and other mmo's like EVE,  so the actual % losses could easely mean double the real pop values...).

For tomorrow (not today), the Xfire trend is that Aion is now already UNDER the 5th launching day.

Worse than War but better than AoC , despite the 100% Xfire oversamples.

It is in fact a normal trend with ALL launched mmo's these past 3 years. IF the game will be a succes it will level off after 3 months at 30% retention rate of the first inital boost play. Meaning around 150 K subs.

Just like ol' Zorndorf always predicted. As I predicted the max number of servers too on Sep 17th ... (16NA/18EU and in the end it was... 14NA/18EU, not a bad shot I might say...).

There is some mistakes to your calculations there.

First, the NA free month ended yesterday, not at the 28th, Europe finishes in the 25th

Second, many ppl had to stop using XFire at least until the next update, since XFire is causing crashes in the game to some ppl, me included, so its normal that the numbers show a decrease on the last few days. Lest wait for the next update to XFire.

I advise you to wait a few more days before flapping your arms that Aion is dieing

believing in Xfire is like Believing in a religion. Its not real .

I dont know anyone,or have known anyone,thats ever used Xfire.

i hated aion and never played.i tried to play,but gave up. currenty playing Global Agenda since 2007 nov Alpha 1.

BTW folks, just 2 days ago character creation for asmodian was blocked on Lumiel server. This mean there are still people out there playing.  Some people in here really have no clue what they are talking about.

Originally posted by Loveless12

believing in Xfire is like Believing in a religion. Its not real .

 

I dont know anyone,or have known anyone,thats ever used Xfire.

 

i hated aion and never played.i tried to play,but gave up. currenty playing Global Agenda since 2007 nov Alpha 1.

Like im not very religious or anything but, what an asshole thing to say.  Seriously really low class to knock people who do believe in religion, for no reason and without it being the topic of discussion.

Anyway, you are spot on about the Xfire numbers.  All it shows are trends amongst xfire users, which tend to be younger. 

There is truth in the population dropoff.  Most games losed some portion of their origional subscribers after a month, this game will be no diffrent.

This game is not "the holy grail", "wow killer", or "the next big game"  therefore its going to lose some players, instead of snowballing in size.

However aion does have the advantage of no major releases dropping anytime soon, so people who are bored with everything might stay a bit longer.

I think you can expect Aion to lose a bit of it's subscriber base during November but I think it will bounce back up around Christmas. As long as NCSoft does it right and markets Aion for the holiday season it should do fine. It's still a successful game and a major feat if it tops the PC game sales charts and outperforms The Sims and WoW who usually and still do dominate those charts on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Loveless12

i hated aion and never played.i tried to play,but gave up. currenty playing Global Agenda since 2007 nov Alpha 1.

Cool, guess this makes you better than the rest of us.

This thread is full of fail.

My server is just as populated as it was yesterday.

Yeah I don't post much here... but Aion in no way lost 50% of it's subscribers. Probably not even 5%.

Smart people don't pay $50-$60 to play for a month to not even reach the full potential of the game.

So if you are one of those people... you are an idiot.

Oh as for reviews... you can't honestly review an mmorpg because it's all opinionated.

Originally posted by Leucent

Not really a shock here, the game has the lasting power of lego to a 40 year old.

Now now, no need to insult lego like that.

 Stop taking this thread seriously, it exists for entertainment. The OP has perfected the role of this forums clown.

I,m surprised the mods let a thread with this title continue to exist. 

Originally posted by pmcubed

But really, how can you copy so much from WoW and then excepct a huge success? WoW is WoW and no copycat will topple it so devs better get their shit together and start being innovative.

 

You can't be innovative when there is so much $ at risk when developing an MMO.  The economy is horrible and investors who put up the millions of dollars would rather the game sell boxes well and collect the first few months of subs.  I don't think game design is limited by the imagination of those working on it, but instead by the budget they are allowed to work with.

So until dev companies aren't on the verge of bankruptcy you might as well stop hoping for anything ^_^/

When these games start, they aren't really looking at: Are we in a recession?

It usually takes three to six years to produce an MMO and three to six years ago was the world in recession, did the mainstream economic throught process believe so? Unless Austrian economist are giving advice to these men, I don't think they thought a recession was incoming.

Another thing, almost every country around the world has interest rates below 5%, which is VERY good for long-term projects. Innovation should be more prevelant, and more risks taken, since interest rates are so low (not that they should be). Although, the fact that people don't understand why they have been so low for so long might explain why people might not want to take risks, or just that they want the easy dollars.

Originally posted by Zeblade

Yeah.. its a fun game but lol not really much to keep some playing. Good pvp but for ME WAY to much like FREE2PLAY. After one year they have not done much to change that.

Exactly ! one year and they have added nothing,you know why?They have adopted a real scam of only giving you part of the game to start,then bank on selling you xpacs.They already admitted this very thing by saying they were already working on the next two expansions,this was before Aion was even released.This is the same formula they are using with Guild Wars,it may seem free but after you buy 3 xpacs  to get the rest of the game,it's so not free anymore.It is not the same as adding xpacs at a later date,when you already have more content and are holding it back from the player base.

To anyone that pays attention at all,you may have also noticed Lineage..castle seige....Aion abyss..Fortress seige,so you can see they lack the creativity to expand beyond what is basically the exact same PVP idea,only they added flying.

Aion is not alone,i am noticing a real trend in all games being released,they are giving us the bare bones for content.It is so bad,that if these games remove one more piece of content,there is literally no game left,that is how weak the content is in most games released over the last 5 years.It is like the developer comes up with one idea and goes with it.Imagine if Aion removed one race?lmao,there is no game anymore,maybe a single player game.

In case of Aion i also believe NCSOFT was terrified of Aion not being a success  and losing their shirt like they did with TR,so they chose to wait and see what the public would accept for the bare bones game.I believe they could easily pan off those xpacs as a new game,after all it would just be new maps,maybe a new race to up the total to an amazing 3 lol.You have to also notice they released it in Asia first,witch again confirms they were afraid of this market,and wanted to make sure the game was being released acceptable,also confirmed by their 1.05 update.

So IMO NC basically has little confidence in their own product.Also you can take this to the bank,i will NEVER play a game ,because someone tells me the customization is great ,i want a "GAME" not a makeover kit.I will also NEVER play a game with 2 races,i mean there is a post right now in the forums complaining about Alganon i think it was.They complained it only had 4 races,well that is double what Aion has lol.I played FFXI and it had 6 race,and that i considered to be the minimum i would accept.

   Nice post Wizardry couldnt have said any better.

Originally posted by Wizardry

Originally posted by Zeblade

Yeah.. its a fun game but lol not really much to keep some playing. Good pvp but for ME WAY to much like FREE2PLAY. After one year they have not done much to change that.

 

Exactly ! one year and they have added nothing,you know why?They have adopted a real scam of only giving you part of the game to start,then bank on selling you xpacs.They already admitted this very thing by saying they were already working on the next two expansions,this was before Aion was even released.This is the same formula they are using with Guild Wars,it may seem free but after you buy 3 xpacs  to get the rest of the game,it's so not free anymore.It is not the same as adding xpacs at a later date,when you already have more content and are holding it back from the player base.

To anyone that pays attention at all,you may have also noticed Lineage..castle seige....Aion abyss..Fortress seige,so you can see they lack the creativity to expand beyond what is basically the exact same PVP idea,only they added flying.

Aion is not alone,i am noticing a real trend in all games being released,they are giving us the bare bones for content.It is so bad,that if these games remove one more piece of content,there is literally no game left,that is how weak the content is in most games released over the last 5 years.It is like the developer comes up with one idea and goes with it.Imagine if Aion removed one race?lmao,there is no game anymore,maybe a single player game.

In case of Aion i also believe NCSOFT was terrified of Aion not being a success  and losing their shirt like they did with TR,so they chose to wait and see what the public would accept for the bare bones game.I believe they could easily pan off those xpacs as a new game,after all it would just be new maps,maybe a new race to up the total to an amazing 3 lol.You have to also notice they released it in Asia first,witch again confirms they were afraid of this market,and wanted to make sure the game was being released acceptable,also confirmed by their 1.05 update.

So IMO NC basically has little confidence in their own product.Also you can take this to the bank,i will NEVER play a game ,because someone tells me the customization is great ,i want a "GAME" not a makeover kit.I will also NEVER play a game with 2 races,i mean there is a post right now in the forums complaining about Alganon i think it was.They complained it only had 4 races,well that is double what Aion has lol.I played FFXI and it had 6 race,and that i considered to be the minimum i would accept.

Sounds like you're fed up with MMOs. And Aion has 3 races, not 2. Two are playable by humans and 3rd races, the balaur, are used as a stabilizing mechanism in case the other race ends up being underdog.

The game is bleeding players? This just has to be because there was a bit of queuing that  first week after release,  if only they had listened to the community and opened up opened up several new servers at once. That would surely have kept anyone from discovering the real issues the game has. 

But really, this is a bit premature, the free month isn't even over for most people, give it another two weeks. Or better yet, another two months. The power of denial is too strong for fanboys to recognize a trend this early on.

hm interesting. all and i mean ALL major internet  gaming magazins gave aion atleast 8/10 and all of them said it has astonishing graphics and is fun. those r the people that played, and im sure of that, 100x more games then all of us together and fot them aion is refreshing and fun game.. and one thing doesnt make sense. they r adding more servers every 2 weeks and they r bleeding players.prolly to cut back qeue times but that is surely not the only reason. ah.sometimes this forum makes laugh pretty damn hard cause of wow/aoc/war players.

 and for the love of god. wow literally stole all its components out of others mmos. just was better advertised. even his lore is stolen.

ps. ppl who r saying aion looks like f2p r mentally ill or shouldnt play aion on pentium 3

 Obviously, most people in here prefer an MMO market with only one game in it. Surprisingly, with all the talk about innovation being key to success, the most successful MMO in the west commercially, also happens to be the one that tends to 'borrow' most of its ideas from other games.

BTW, Halo ODST (released last month) was reported to have already sold 1.5 million copies in its first month. Major innovation there comrades.

I quit this retarded mess... and someone said people were quitting because it was "too hard." Are you insane? What is so hard about pressing 1-2-2-2-3-1-3-2-2-... over and over in the same sequence for every mob?  Reee-diculous.

Anyway, after this mess I am not paying for playing any MMO that is not developed in EU or NA.

The fortress crashing is really what's going to be the death of the game in the long run if they don't get it fixed.  There is no point anymore if the main endgame isn't even functional to participate in.  That will chase off the die-hard Aion supporters.  They can deal with the other shortcomings (or benefits as they see them) but not that. 

There were threads like this with WoW five years ago . Massive quitting due to bugs bots ques etc etc etc . We all know how that turned out . People i know that are quitting Aion arnt quitting it for good but they are fed up with the ques and Ncsofts lack of action in compensating them for a months play they ve paid for which they dont feel they ve been able to use . Lots of people are planning on returning if and when Ncsoft sort this mess out . They have a very small window which could make all the difference between another 300-500k game or one thats second only to WoW . Can they do it ? Well maybe but thier past record is nt very good . Time is running out for Aion and this is from someone who thinks it could be one of the best most successful mmos around . If it fails it wont be down to Aions quality but Ncsofts incompetance .