...do you think WAR will see a rise in subs as players return from (another?) sinking ship? Or do you think players will try to forget about both games and are looking for the Next Big Thing(tm)?

everyone is just bouncing around from games they loved to games they hope they will love. Everyone seems to be playing this repetitive bounce around game

Who says things are looking grim for Aion?

The game has been out exactly a month. Not even NCSoft knows how it's going yet.

Originally posted by Ghostmind

Who says things are looking grim for Aion?

The game has been out exactly a month. Not even NCSoft knows how it's going yet.

Actually the game has been out about a year.  I'm sure NCSoft has a good idea how well the game is doing.

Originally posted by shayneforu

everyone is just bouncing around from games they loved to games they hope they will love. Everyone seems to be playing this repetitive bounce around game

I know exactly what you mean because me and my friends have been doing this ever since we got tired of WoW prior to TBC (been bouncing back there too).

Originally posted by RendRegen

...do you think WAR will see a rise in subs as players return from (another?) sinking ship? Or do you think players will try to forget about both games and are looking for the Next Big Thing(tm)?

What would the next big thing be, as faction-based PvP goes? Global Agenda?

Originally posted by junzo316

Originally posted by Ghostmind

Who says things are looking grim for Aion?

The game has been out exactly a month. Not even NCSoft knows how it's going yet.

 

Actually the game has been out about a year.  I'm sure NCSoft has a good idea how well the game is doing.

Not in this market it hasn't. Concrete numbers indicating the potential lifespan for new MMOs aren't reported to the suits this soon because they fluctuate way too often this early on to form anything that even looks like an educated guess.

Anyone saying that Aion is going to die, or "is looking grim" based on *any* info they have now is a fool. Same goes for people saying it'll be the greatest thing ever, based on current info.

No one knows anything yet, and it's too soon so start any kind of logical speculation.

Originally posted by RendRegen

...do you think WAR will see a rise in subs as players return from (another?) sinking ship? Or do you think players will try to forget about both games and are looking for the Next Big Thing(tm)?

The second option..............

Not sure how Aion will pan out ultimately, but I never even made it a month in WAR due to the bugs and clunky interface.

Aion is smooth and plays well. I am with holding judgment until I hit the abyss, where I understand the game changes considerably. Reports I have heard is taht it is the best PvP out there at the moment.

Originally posted by Ghostmind

Originally posted by junzo316

Originally posted by Ghostmind

Who says things are looking grim for Aion?

The game has been out exactly a month. Not even NCSoft knows how it's going yet.

 

Actually the game has been out about a year.  I'm sure NCSoft has a good idea how well the game is doing.

 

Not in this market it hasn't. Concrete numbers indicating the potential lifespan for new MMOs aren't reported to the suits this soon because they fluctuate way too often this early on to form anything that even looks like an educated guess.

Anyone saying that Aion is going to die, or "is looking grim" based on *any* info they have now is a fool. Same goes for people saying it'll be the greatest thing ever, based on current info.

No one knows anything yet, and it's too soon so start any kind of logical speculation.

Ahh, you meant just in the Western market.  I'm sure now that the first month of free play is coming to an end, and people are either renewing or canceling their accounts, NCSoft west has a fairly good idea where the game stands.  That's logical speculation.

Just like Mr Hoff-ilicious there, I'm also waiting to see what the abyss is like. Maybe I might just join a legion... ya' nevr' 'no....

Originally posted by RendRegen

...do you think WAR will see a rise in subs as players return from (another?) sinking ship? Or do you think players will try to forget about both games and are looking for the Next Big Thing(tm)?

Funny... WAR is done, it"s just dying slowly. Aion might crash too, but it's way too soon to know. And even if all the newly released mmo would crash tomorrow most players would either return to WoW/EQ/EvE or move to the next big thing.

WAR had over 60 servers, Capital cities were sieged so often at one point they had to introduce a timer on fort to reduce city sieges. And now there is so little people on the servers that they had to remove the forts so people siege the city instead of closing the remaining 6 NA servers into 1 or 2.

Mythic has already, dug their grave with Warhammer. It's quite possible people will be hopping back. But they will quickly be reminded why they left in the first place. Mythic hasn't gone to great leap's and bound's to improve this game. The performance issue has been worked on, a good deal. But there's to many design flaw's they can't do anything about. Certain aspect's of the game will continue to suffer with Mythic behind the wheel.

What Warhammer is and worth now, it's how it will be for the rest of it's day's. Theres no comeback story for it, it will continue to pass along quitely as that game that could've been something.

Originally posted by ulthar50

Not sure how Aion will pan out ultimately, but I never even made it a month in WAR due to the bugs and clunky interface.

 

Aion is smooth and plays well. I am with holding judgment until I hit the abyss, where I understand the game changes considerably. Reports I have heard is taht it is the best PvP out there at the moment.

What I'm hearing (I don't play AIon) is that the fortress sieges aren't so smooth.

If PvP end game isn't smooth and fun, a LOT of players are going to abandon that game in a hurry.

I'am just counting down the days till a fresh wave of people start leaving WAR due to the seiges, because I know most of my guild all there doing now is logging in seeing Altdorf been seiged for the 1000th time and then logging off bored stiff.

 Aion looking grim? The servers are full of ppl and the first 30 days are already gone.... lol

This one is dead, and no use in trying to make ppl believe it will suddenly come to life because in your head "things are looking grim for Aion"... even because Aion RvR is 1000000000 times better than in WAR, and ive been there, if anyone wants to believe what im saying fine, if they dont fine either way, we are all having a blast in huge RvR battles, and you are here making things up and trying to get ppl to your already empty servers.

For those you want to see it for yourselves, check Aion out, it's a great PvP experience.

Originally posted by tryklon

 Aion looking grim? The servers are full of ppl and the first 30 days are already gone.... lol

This one is dead, and no use in trying to make ppl believe it will suddenly come to life because in your head "things are looking grim for Aion"... even because Aion RvR is 1000000000 times better than in WAR, and ive been there

Certainly is not - and I'm not subbed to either anymore.

Aion will dwindle just like WAR did after release. Tons of people have already quit. Now it will just slowly, but steadily decline.

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by tryklon

 Aion looking grim? The servers are full of ppl and the first 30 days are already gone.... lol

This one is dead, and no use in trying to make ppl believe it will suddenly come to life because in your head "things are looking grim for Aion"... even because Aion RvR is 1000000000 times better than in WAR, and ive been there

 

Certainly is not - and I'm not subbed to either anymore.

Aion will dwindle just like WAR did after release. Tons of people have already quit. Now it will just slowly, but steadily decline.

here are the servers today at 17,45h....   enough said

I understand that you ppl have just like 5 servers in NA and other 5 in Euro, but lol, nevertheless...

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by tryklon

 Aion looking grim? The servers are full of ppl and the first 30 days are already gone.... lol

This one is dead, and no use in trying to make ppl believe it will suddenly come to life because in your head "things are looking grim for Aion"... even because Aion RvR is 1000000000 times better than in WAR, and ive been there

 

Certainly is not - and I'm not subbed to either anymore.

Aion will dwindle just like WAR did after release. Tons of people have already quit. Now it will just slowly, but steadily decline.

 

here are the servers today at 17,45h....   enough said

Hahaha - what's your point? Tons of people have unsubbed after the free month ran out whether you choose to believe it or not.

I never said it was going to be abandoned over night - but you chose  to ignore that fact. And like I said - I am subbed to neither game - but have played WAR previously as well as Aion and went ahead and unsubbed. Work on the reading comp.

And I got a good "lol" from you posting the server capacity - the game can change that number to their liking anytime they want.

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by tryklon

 Aion looking grim? The servers are full of ppl and the first 30 days are already gone.... lol

This one is dead, and no use in trying to make ppl believe it will suddenly come to life because in your head "things are looking grim for Aion"... even because Aion RvR is 1000000000 times better than in WAR, and ive been there

 

Certainly is not - and I'm not subbed to either anymore.

Aion will dwindle just like WAR did after release. Tons of people have already quit. Now it will just slowly, but steadily decline.

 

here are the servers today at 17,45h....   enough said

 

Hahaha - what's your point? Tons of people have unsubbed after the free month ran out whether you choose to believe it or not.

I never said it was going to be abandoned over night - but you chose  to ignore that fact.

And I got a good "lol" from you posting the server capacity - the game can change that number to their liking anytime they want.

hmmmm.... the free month is over

And im not even gonna discuss all of that conspiracy theory server capacity thingy...... *loony*

I don't know why people think it's a big deal that new games lose subs at the end of the free month. Regardless of the quality of the game there will be people out of the initial box sales for whom the game just didn't hold any appeal. It doesn't make Aion a bad game, it's a process that all MMOs go through.

Whether those that inevitably drop out of Aion decide War is worth resubbing to depends on the state of this game far more than it does that state of Aion. War has made some improvements in the new patch (although there's A LOT more work to be done) so you'd have to think that some of these people will at least try War again to see how it is going. How long they stay is another matter.

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Plaidpants

Originally posted by tryklon

 Aion looking grim? The servers are full of ppl and the first 30 days are already gone.... lol

This one is dead, and no use in trying to make ppl believe it will suddenly come to life because in your head "things are looking grim for Aion"... even because Aion RvR is 1000000000 times better than in WAR, and ive been there

 

Certainly is not - and I'm not subbed to either anymore.

Aion will dwindle just like WAR did after release. Tons of people have already quit. Now it will just slowly, but steadily decline.

 

here are the servers today at 17,45h....   enough said

 

Hahaha - what's your point? Tons of people have unsubbed after the free month ran out whether you choose to believe it or not.

I never said it was going to be abandoned over night - but you chose  to ignore that fact.

And I got a good "lol" from you posting the server capacity - the game can change that number to their liking anytime they want.

 

hmmmm.... the free month is over

And im not even gonna discuss all of that conspiracy theory server capacity thingy...... *loony*

Yeah - the free month is over - and lots of people did not renew their subscription - how is that hard to grasp? You really think that statistic is going to be evident by a server capacity picture? That's just ignorant.

And if I was in charge of an MMO I certainly would make sure to edit the numbers it takes to show a "high" or "full" server capacity to try to mask the population if it was hurting so it wouldn't scare new players away. Simple marketing - but once again - guess it's hard to expect much more from a close-minded individual. And before you spout of claiming I said Aion's population is hurting and not bothering to understand the concept/point - I'm not - but that's idiotic to believe that the devs don't mess with that limit.

lol @ the server stats. i remember the early days of logging into WAR with multiple servers High on both sides during primetime. thats a great indicator that a brand new game isnt going to die fast, because it didnt happen at all with WAR, theyre running what now? maybe 2 servers reach High on a good day at its highest peak? hell thats what it was when i left, for the 2nd time, a couple months ago. do they even manage to get that much anymore even with all the server merging to keep pops up?

Of course, Aion is still well populated after a WHOLE month after its so called "launch", thats some amazing longevity, i see great things for its future, it couldnt possibly die out in the next few months like WAR did...

tell you what, about all you special people stop debating wether or not its dying, a month tells you nothing, theres still plenty of people who will be coming into the game as new players, not everyone gets games the day they launch. not to mention theres probably a pretty good chunk out of those server stats full of bots/gold sellers. come back in another 2-3 months and see if the servers are still full, if so, then we can say its doing pretty well, if it turns into the way WAR servers look now, well then the haters win.

Lol there's always a large drop off at the end of the free month the difference is Aion seems to have weathered it better than any of the other recent mmos,  when WARs free month ended the servers suddenly almost over night became ghost towns so far the Aion servers are still really active which is a good sign.

Originally posted by Newhopes

Lol there's always a large drop off at the end of the free month the difference is Aion seems to have weathered it better than any of the other recent mmos,  when WARs free month ended the servers suddenly almost over night became ghost towns so far the Aion servers are still really active which is a good sign.

It has had the most polished release and the smooth out of all the recent MMOs over the past few years (since it was released in Asia). But it is by far the most stale, boring, and unappealing MMO I've played. AoC and WAR had bugged releases and bad performances - the games just weren't ready.

People notice and are turned off quicker by buggy releases and poor performance - so WAR and AoC had quicker declines. Aion is a fine game with out a lot of the major glaring issues - but I've never been that bored before in an mmo - people will hit that wall eventually and you'll see the numbers fall - just not as quickly as the MMOs with the bad releases.