Originally posted by arenasb

Originally posted by Kyleran

I'm enjoying the game so far, but I'm only level 18 and going very slowly, so take my opinoin for what its based on.

 

Game changes at level 20 as rifting starts to come into play. And it changes again at 25 when you are able to go to the Abyss. At about level 30 you start to feel the grind, or at least I have.

29 is when you start getting group quests to fill out this level.

Originally posted by rafaelrehn

Originally posted by Cadexn

Apparently If you look around MMORPG.COM's forum, ALL the games are bashed mercilessly.

 

Originally posted by RendRegen

Hi, I was interested in this game and thought about buying it, but some of my friends played it when it launched or in open beta and gave me a really negative impression of the game. Their complaints were mainly that the game didn't play very fluid, that there were massive amounts of bots/gold spammers, and that there's a big lack of content. I see many, many similar complaints on the various Aion forums, such as this one. But is it really as bad as everyone says, or is this the classic case of the silent majority playing the game rather than whining on forums, like with AoC/WAR?

My friends play WoW/EvE and WAR by the way, and have gone back to their previous games. Personally I've only played DAoC and WoW, and liked those games when they were new and all

Aion is not bad, but it's not great eather.

Originally posted by rafaelrehn

Originally posted by rafaelrehn

Originally posted by Cadexn

Apparently If you look around MMORPG.COM's forum, ALL the games are bashed mercilessly.

 

 

 Aion isn't a terrible game.  It's just the same game as we've seen before.  There's very little even in the way of iteration here; as a rule, all of its systems work more or less like every other game's systems.  It's very homogenous, having little to set it apart from other games, and on top of that it's one of the grindiest games ever to sell well in America.

It's also extremely unfortunate that what is purportedly the most interesting part of the game doesn't come out until you've gotten past a certain point; one of the things that really did me in as far as Warhammer is concerned was the fact that I could queue up and start fighting people more or less right out of the box. 

Originally posted by arenasb

Originally posted by Kyleran

I'm enjoying the game so far, but I'm only level 18 and going very slowly, so take my opinoin for what its based on.

 

Game changes at level 20 as rifting starts to come into play. And it changes again at 25 when you are able to go to the Abyss. At about level 30 you start to feel the grind, or at least I have.

For me it was level 35, I just stopped wanting to login. I will give Aion a break and see if NCSoft does improve quest xp. I wish the best of luck to those still going strong.

 First of all the silent majority were not playing WAR or AOC they were busy canceling and moving on. The minority of the minority were the ones on the forums.

That said at the end of the day its all very subjective. No one is going to give the right answer because there are no absolutes when dealing with individual tastes. If it makes you want to play then do and if not dont. Your friends would be the best indication of what may be for you since they know you and we do not have a clue what you like or want in a game.

I would say if you have doubts wait until they offer a free trial or at least the game goes down in price. The game will be there for many years so there is really no rush. The more you wait the more content there will be for you to do. Just don't wait 3-4 years by then  players will have moved on. 

I was really excited about Aion since 2007. I joined a Legion since 2008 and we had been waiting for it for almost a year very eager. I did the Korean beta, China beta, and US betas, I am very glad I did because I found out the game was not what I was looking for. As others and myself have stated many many many many many many many many many many many many..... Times before. The game brings close to nothing new that you have not seen before to the table. If you are looking for change or innovation wait a year or two when mmorpg games without levels and classes based on what you equip start coming out. If you are happy with the status quo of most mmorpg games and don't mind current standard mmo formula Aion is probably the best variation on it.  I think it is a decent game overall I would say a 7/10

yes it is

Originally posted by arri535

yes it is

Care to elaborate?

It smells like cabbage

My suggestion: wait for the NCSoft to fix the queue and bot issues. Those are the two main reasons this game isn't worth buying yet.

Originally posted by Mortemia

My suggestion: wait for the NCSoft to fix the queue and bot issues. Those are the two main reasons this game isn't worth buying yet.

There is no queue problem anymore. Bot problem is existent but is in every game. It isn't as bad as most people make it out to be but the problem is there. 100x better than it was in Chinese Aion. I couldn't even kill a mob in Theobomos.

Originally posted by shayneforu

It smells like cabbage

Theme Hospital right?

Originally posted by FastTx

Originally posted by rafaelrehn

Originally posted by rafaelrehn

Originally posted by Cadexn

Apparently If you look around MMORPG.COM's forum, ALL the games are bashed mercilessly.

 

 

 

Blah blah blah lol. So many haters on this site it isnt funny...lol. Aions the best PvP out right now hands down imo. If you go into Aion with an open mind you may very well enjoy grinding on mobs for a half level or so if you have to, I know I did. The "grind" is peoples biggest complaint and it really isnt that bad, it makes me laugh that people find Aion grindy tbh...lol. After level 30 you'll have so much to do you won't know what to do with yourself. Pre-30 can get abit slow but it all depends how you approach the game. I've grown sick of doing nothing but quests in MMOs so Aion is perfect for me. If your looking for a quest based MMO you should stay away, as I'm sure most of people here should have. If you want to quest 24/7 go play WoW or LOTRO, Aion isnt for you. Keep in mind that likely most of the complainers here are folks that wanted to rush to max level asap. Of course Aion's grindy to them... 

Give it shot, I'm personally having the most fun I've ever had playing a MMO and I've played them all. :-)

Innovative quests, interesting levelling system, depth of play - yes, none of these features can be found in Aion.  The quests are so old and stale that you'll feel like you've done them hundreds of times already, the levelling system is copy-pasted from just about every MMO on the market, and the game is so UTTERLY simplistic that the game has a built-in "Idiot Mode" Quest Tracker even though the quests are yawn-inducingly easy.  What truly boggles the mind is that people still have to resort to pleading for help to solve them!

In short, Aion is your totally underwhelming Korean F2P bore-fest.  Don't worry if you fall asleep at the keyboard in your first couple of hours - you can easily play it while asleep.

Originally posted by Dibdabs

IN MY OPINION

Innovative quests, interesting levelling system, depth of play - yes, none of these features can be found in Aion.  The quests are so old and stale that you'll feel like you've done them hundreds of times already, the levelling system is copy-pasted from just about every MMO on the market, and the game is so UTTERLY simplistic that the game has a built-in "Idiot Mode" Quest Tracker even though the quests are yawn-inducingly easy.  What truly boggles the mind is that people still have to resort to pleading for help to solve them!

In short, Aion is your totally underwhelming Korean F2P bore-fest.  Don't worry if you fall asleep at the keyboard in your first couple of hours - you can easily play it while asleep.

I fixed that for you

Originally posted by RendRegen

Hi, I was interested in this game and thought about buying it, but some of my friends played it when it launched or in open beta and gave me a really negative impression of the game. Their complaints were mainly that the game didn't play very fluid, that there were massive amounts of bots/gold spammers, and that there's a big lack of content. I see many, many similar complaints on the various Aion forums, such as this one. But is it really as bad as everyone says, or is this the classic case of the silent majority playing the game rather than whining on forums, like with AoC/WAR?

My friends play WoW/EvE and WAR by the way, and have gone back to their previous games. Personally I've only played DAoC and WoW, and liked those games when they were new and all

FACT: There are TONS of bots on every server. Some places have so many that you literally cannot get a kill. The bots are also now crafting which further cripples the economy.

FACT: You will be grinding 6+ hours for a level in your 30's and 18 hours in the low 40's the whole way to 40+ hours from 49-50.

If you want my opinion the game completely lacks in content...thus the grind. The game lacks any depth or character development. The PvP is meaningless and consists mostly ganking or zerging with very little skill involved. Class balance is awful leaving ranged at a major advantage in both PvP and PvE. The level gap system makes grouping/PvPing a major pain and qualifies for worst MMO mechanic i've seen in a long time.

Honestly, I'd save my money. PvP is no better than WAR's, PvE is far worse than WoW's or even WAR's. Unless you like grinding there really isn't much the game brings to the table.

As far as the silent majority playing like WAR/AoC...I think you got your facts wrong. The silent majority quit those games just like they will with this game. The forum whiners/fanbois are ALWAYS the vocal minority for both sides, the hard thing is see past the vocal bunch and figuring out what the real majority will do.

Originally posted by Distaste

Originally posted by RendRegen

Hi, I was interested in this game and thought about buying it, but some of my friends played it when it launched or in open beta and gave me a really negative impression of the game. Their complaints were mainly that the game didn't play very fluid, that there were massive amounts of bots/gold spammers, and that there's a big lack of content. I see many, many similar complaints on the various Aion forums, such as this one. But is it really as bad as everyone says, or is this the classic case of the silent majority playing the game rather than whining on forums, like with AoC/WAR?

My friends play WoW/EvE and WAR by the way, and have gone back to their previous games. Personally I've only played DAoC and WoW, and liked those games when they were new and all

FACT: There are TONS of bots on every server. Some places have so many that you literally cannot get a kill. The bots are also now crafting which further cripples the economy.

FACT: You will be grinding 6+ hours for a level in your 30's and 18 hours in the low 40's the whole way to 40+ hours from 49-50.

If you want my opinion the game completely lacks in content...thus the grind. The game lacks any depth or character development. The PvP is meaningless and consists mostly ganking or zerging with very little skill involved. Class balance is awful leaving ranged at a major advantage in both PvP and PvE. The level gap system makes grouping/PvPing a major pain and qualifies for worst MMO mechanic i've seen in a long time.

Honestly, I'd save my money. PvP is no better than WAR's, PvE is far worse than WoW's or even WAR's. Unless you like grinding there really isn't much the game brings to the table.

As far as the silent majority playing like WAR/AoC...I think you got your facts wrong. The silent majority quit those games just like they will with this game. The forum whiners/fanbois are ALWAYS the vocal minority for both sides, the hard thing is see past the vocal bunch and figuring out what the real majority will do.

The only "FACTS" in your argument is all of these are YOUR OPINION...

Most people like the PVP because its FUN - if you aren't having fun - that's one thing... but don't spew off the same old crap that every hater posts. It's gotten very old, very quickly...

But you just said it yourself. You'd rather save your money and go elsewhere - so Ill ask the age old question.... why are you HERE on THESE Aion forums?

Originally posted by Murashu

If you go into Aion expecting to be led around by the nose going from quest hub to quest hub, chances are you will be disappointed. WoW made it extremely easy for everyone to get to max level very quickly and offers numerous routes to get there. 

I think that is a little misleading as I think the game character controls are no more complex than WoW. If you mean that as you progress along and up the level ladder you have to grind out more and more of it, then that certainly is different from WoW in its current state. However, I don't think grinding requires more thought, merely the stamina to stay awake for hours on end at the PC to level up quickly. I tired of the game and think it needs a lot more content to be patched into the PvE level game, and also some more thought into the RvR Zerg which is its current endgame. 

I played some beta event 3 weeks before the game was released and wasn't impressed. I also didn't want to invest too much time into something who would get whiped after this week.

I didn't buy the game at release cause it didn't interest me at all. Co-worker convinced me of trying to game and so did i and so far i'm having a lot of fun.

I find it a bit funny to see everyone complaining here about the grind, the bots, the gold sellers etc., and i can tell you one thing about the gold seller, is that i've seen as many of them as in WoW. Nothing new or annoying for me here. Regarding the bot, i haven't paid attention to them yet, maybe if it's blatant i will notice it, but i'm too busy playing. Don't get me started about the grind, i've played worst game than this on this subject and i was never an annoying thing for me. Crafting looks good to me, gathering too.

So far, this is a good MMO experience and it's definitly worth a try IMO.

With all the content of Wrath of the Lich King, people are coming to expect more from an MMO than a grind after a certain point.

While you may not mind grinding, there are also many who do.

Lack of content after the mid-20's while it's been released in Korea for over a year?

Aion is all polish with little substance.

Originally posted by metalliham

With all the content of Wrath of the Lich King, people are coming to expect more from an MMO than a grind after a certain point.

While you may not mind grinding, there are also many who do.

Lack of content after the mid-20's while it's been released in Korea for over a year?

Aion is all polish with little substance.

Let's not start this. Rep grind, quest grind, 5man grind for rep and gears, naxxramas grind for 6 months since no other raid was available. I've also played FFXi where you had to group grind EXP since it was impossible to solo and blow 6 months of GILs to craft your way to the top level of a crafting job... Anarchy Online too where you were running missions over and over to get EXPs and finally hit max level.

Whoever calls for a grind in any game should come up with THAT ONE MMO who didn't have a single grinding aspect in it, cause all the MMOs i've played and tried had "grind" somewhere...

Originally posted by trepo

Originally posted by metalliham

With all the content of Wrath of the Lich King, people are coming to expect more from an MMO than a grind after a certain point.

While you may not mind grinding, there are also many who do.

Lack of content after the mid-20's while it's been released in Korea for over a year?

Aion is all polish with little substance.

 

Let's not start this. Rep grind, quest grind, 5man grind for rep and gears, naxxramas grind for 6 months since no other raid was available. I've also played FFXi where you had to group grind EXP since it was impossible to solo and blow 6 months of GILs to craft your way to the top level of a crafting job... Anarchy Online too where you were running missions over and over to get EXPs and finally hit max level.

Whoever calls for a grind in any game should come up with THAT ONE MMO who didn't have a single grinding aspect in it, cause all the MMOs i've played and tried had "grind" somewhere...

shsss!! you are making too much sense

Posters here won't stand for it  ;)

/waits for people to say EVE doesn't have a grind and don't have Bots (which technically is true) - but if you knew how that game operated you'd know why. Its physically impossible to power level in that game (one of its very strong points IMO)