i started playing Aion in CB, and found that i liked it, i preordered, and played since launch.

Slowly, but certainly, some feeling of "sigh...ive done that already, so many times before, dont let this game be  another flush in the toilet please" so i continued...

Today, i dont log in anymore, i even found myself installing AOC and Lotro to see which of the 2 i would resub too..if any.

the felling i get, and now asking if any shares is this: soo much of the same, wings/nowings flying mounts or not..it just doesnt matter anymore...it all seems like taking a deep breath and just trying..

I love gaming, really really love gaming, but im using my pc less and less for gaming, spending more time lurking here, in the vaque hope something shows up.

Before Aion, i was sure a new 1-2 maybe 3 year mmo would be here...instead it gave me the feeling of this:

Am i getting too old...or is the industry getting too self complacent? i dont know..

but i know i dont like the feeling of having to quit mmo´s

Just my thought, Best regards,

Martin Etlar

oh, and on a side note..am downloading Vanguard trial...another vague hope ;)

I'll agree, its a whole lot of "more of the same" and I'm playing it very casually (like 2 days a week)

Consider playing EVE, Ryzom or even Darkfall and try something really different.  Should cure some of the burnout you're feeling.

Same feeling here, the more I see of these games, the more I notice its just the same game at its core with a different skin tacked on, not to mention if I have to use one more sword or cast one more spell in an mmo im going to vommit.

Companies are to afraid to do anything risky now so they just stick to the same tried and true crap thats been done a bagillion times because they know it sells.

Guild Wars 2 will be my last Fantasy MMO for a long time. If Earthrise, Secret World and Fallen Earth all fail to deliver in the long run, I see myself taking a break from MMO's for some time.

Feel the same...waiting on some mmo to come up that grabs me...cant loggon to aion anymore...have been trying almost all of the latest mmos..none can grab me...NEED SOME HELP ANY SHRINK HERE?

 Meh, me too. I played the 1-10 lvls so much during CB's that I was burned out before launch! Now I'm just plain bored of it.  I prepurchased the danged thing too...such a disappointment. The appeal for the prepurchase was the upgrade in wings & flight time...but then I learned at launch that you don't get it till lvl 30!! Ugh! What were they thinking? No wait, I know this answer....they weren't. The long queue times was the killer for me. I'm not gonna pay-to-play then have to wait upwards of an hour to even get INTO the game, then deal with the dozens of spam-bot whispers an hour interupting my submergence into the VR world. Yea, yea, there are tricks to dealing with them, I don't like them either. 

Maybe when, or maybe if, new content comes out then I'll hop back over & see if it is worth it. I'm not really all the big into PVP anyways. Probably because I am no good at it, which doesn't bother me none. I prefer adventure over PVP anyday. Isn't there enough PVP in RL the way is it? I get into a game to escape the everyday...blech....I ramble.

Okay, yer turn.

Originally posted by Kyleran

I'll agree, its a whole lot of "more of the same" and I'm playing it very casually (like 2 days a week)

Consider playing EVE, Ryzom or even Darkfall and try something really different.  Should cure some of the burnout you're feeling.

I agree those 3 games are different, played Ryzom, but the very low population i think is a shame, and ruins it...a gem of a game though.

EvE: been there for a year or so and got about 10mills of skillpoints, great game, i often wonder why i quit though..perhaps because of the waayy too many hours spent on looking at my avatar just flying from safe space to 00 :)

Darkfall: got an active account..well, i actually cancelled it, but they keep taking my money, no idea how thats possible, so i log in once in a while, but i dont like to play in a hackers paradise, i hope it changes though ;)

same prob with aion for me man, same exact thing

Not just you or Aion, it' a lot of people and other MMO's that feel the same, hopefully next year the new crop of MMO's will be better but not getting my hopes up.

Balechnay you dont ramble, you articulate your thoughts, as an old man once said ;)

but the queues was not why i stopped logging. they were exspected.it was the general feeling of just having enough of..well the general, if u get my point ;)

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Not just you or Aion, it' a lot of people and other MMO's that feel the same, hopefully next year the new crop of MMO's will be better but not getting my hopes up.

I hope you are right about next years "crop" (love that expression lol"  looks decent, but doesnt it look decent every year? (in my exsperience)

Anyone that is burnt out on the standard MMO style, themepark, or w/e else name people have given them , should not have bought Aion. It was advertised as such. All these people are doing is supporting this style of game thus the industry looks at it as a success, and guess what. theres going to be more of the same crap shoveled down our throat. Once more people realize "hey this is the same crap I have played before with a different skin,i think ill skip this title" then we may start to  get other style games.

Originally posted by etlar

i started playing Aion in CB, and found that i liked it, i preordered, and played since launch.

Slowly, but certainly, some feeling of "sigh...ive done that already, so many times before, dont let this game be  another flush in the toilet please" so i continued...

Today, i dont log in anymore, i even found myself installing AOC and Lotro to see which of the 2 i would resub too..if any.

the felling i get, and now asking if any shares is this: soo much of the same, wings/nowings flying mounts or not..it just doesnt matter anymore...it all seems like taking a deep breath and just trying..

I love gaming, really really love gaming, but im using my pc less and less for gaming, spending more time lurking here, in the vaque hope something shows up.

Before Aion, i was sure a new 1-2 maybe 3 year mmo would be here...instead it gave me the feeling of this:

Am i getting too old...or is the industry getting too self complacent? i dont know..

but i know i dont like the feeling of having to quit mmo´s

Just my thought, Best regards,

Martin Etlar

oh, and on a side note..am downloading Vanguard trial...another vague hope ;)

 

You are definitely not alone with this. And IMO it is more than a usual burnout. I feel Aion just is lackluster. All the recently published MMOs have been relatively mediocre.

I did like CO, but the nerfs and money greed made me stay away from it.

 You will get that feeling in many MMO where you grind, especially NCsoft games, they're all grinders. Once you've done it once, you've done it enough.

No one wants to grind twice in MMO. Aion especially is very shallow and grindy.

Enjoying 2 MMO is possible, just not the ones where you need to grind a lot, you'll get bored after a few minutes.

I feel exactly the same. I just can't get into any MMO these days. They all feel exactly the same...

There is just nothing new and fresh in this entire genre. Every game is a complete re-hash of the same concepts we have all seen a hundred times before. Its like developers have just stopped trying to innovate.

I am just waiting for SWTOR and STO at this point because they are the only new games on the horizon with any sort of fresh perspective in my opinion. I suppose only time will tell if that is actually the case...

I hear you and I feel your pain.  I've found myself splitting my time between AION and EQ2 lately.  I play EQ2 mostly because I miss my friends that I have there.  I am part of a great legion in AION though so I'm giving it a chance to see what happens after the free 30 days ends.

But you're right waiting for gaming companies to put content in when you've been down that road Oh-so-many times before makes you wonder if you would have curbed your tendency to buy the game on release would have been the better option.  Perhaps those of us who have been playing MMO's since the time before they were even called MMORPG's, are searching for something that just won't be found in today's games.

I wonder if we should ask ourselves some very important questions, I did and asking myself those questions was what made me return to EQ2 and yes I got the "full meal deal" so I can even log into EQ1 and chat with old friends.

1.) Am I really disillusioned with the same kill x# of x mob for x?  Or is it that I don't like killing that mob when there are a bazillion other players in the same zone trying to complete the same quest at the same time because it's launch day?

2.)Are the gold spammers/whiners in chat really bugging me? Or is it that there are so many people on that the flood of those plus requests for help and spoilers are in all channels all the time so little Billy doesn't have to think and can plow through content to reach end cap fast?

If you notice there is a theme here.  The MMOs that are released these days immediately upon launch have such a huge player base that you just don't and will never have the feeling of community that there used to be in some of the original MMO's like EverQuest and Ultima Online. 

Yeah I know the new kids on the block will say that those are crap, but they are what started this whole out of control genre.  I mean you don't think that someone just said hey lets take World of Warcraft and make it an MMO did you?  They looked at the amount of cash Ultima Online and Everquest were raking in and decided they wanted a piece of the action. 

EverQuest was THE MMO to play as it was the first one with true 3D graphics and characters instead of 2D.

Everyone else at the time thought that people who played UO and EQII were crazy people who liked "carebear" games and couldn't play any other type of game.  Those very same people soon realized as EQII's subscriber base grew, and UO's fell with every EverQuest expansion that these new 3D MMO's weren't just a passing fad.  EQII introduced a world that you impacted as you interacted with it, and true server wide player triggered events (the sleepless).  They introduced raids, and instance runs long before anyone else ever thought of it.  Most games who do this now are just a re-hash of something that got it's start in EverQuest.

People now make fun of folks who play WoW, but I remember when they used to make fun of those who played EverQuest.  They used to say you play EverCrack?!!  Calling it that because of the addictive potential of gameplay that it introduced.  People found themselves a part of something that they could affect, whether it was solo play, being part of a group, attending a raid or being part of a guild. 

That feeling of being part of a community is what we miss in alot of today's newly released MMO's in my opinion.  And is also probably why EverQuest, EverQuest II and Vanguard are still around.  Yes, alot of people gripe about what SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) does or doesn't do in regards to those games, but they still have a huge loyal player base that will always be there.  Not necessarily for the game itself, but for the friends who've played them with you.  Some of my friends I've met playing EverQuest I've had for over 9 years and am still in contact with.  Some have ventured into other games, but most go back or hop over to EverQuest II. 

If you ever want to venture into EverQuest 2, make a toon on Befallen and look me up, either on Ashreal, Siodenne or Merrydeath.  I'll be more than happy to introduce you to my friends!

Honestly don't worry about it. Just knock mmorpg's on the head for a while and do somthing else. If it's burn out or the fact that all mmo's are the same game at the moment, a change is as good as a rest they say. Hopefully after a break you can come back to them with a fresh perspective or there may be something else out there a few months down the line that doesn't make you want to jump off a bridge or drop kick your computer out the window.

thats what i hate about mmos, we're always looking ahead to next year :|

Originally posted by etlar

i started playing Aion in CB, and found that i liked it, i preordered, and played since launch.

Slowly, but certainly, some feeling of "sigh...ive done that already, so many times before, dont let this game be  another flush in the toilet please" so i continued...

Today, i dont log in anymore, i even found myself installing AOC and Lotro to see which of the 2 i would resub too..if any. 

It took me less than 30 minutes to get the exact same sinking feeling, though I did wade through the "been there, done that 5 years ago" content that they copy/pasted into Aion for another couple of weeks.

It's such a dismal clone of bog-standard MMOs that I am surprised any discerning gamer would even tolerate it.

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

thats what i hate about mmos, we're always looking ahead to next year :|

According to one of the polls on the front page of this site, more than 25% of MMORPG.com users are not subscribed to any MMOs.

Originally posted by heremypet

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

thats what i hate about mmos, we're always looking ahead to next year :|

According to one of the polls on the front page of this site, more than 25% of MMORPG.com users are not subscribed to any MMOs.

wow thats pretty bad lol o_O

guess we're all waiting haha

Originally posted by Ashreal  People found themselves a part of something that they could affect, whether it was solo play, being part of a group, attending a raid or being part of a guild. 

That feeling of being part of a community is what we miss in alot of today's newly released MMO's in my opinion.  And is also probably why EverQuest, EverQuest II and Vanguard are still around.  

and a quote more from ashreal:

Some of my friends I've met playing EverQuest I've had for over 9 years and am still in contact with.

read through you text, and those i highlighted i cannot agree more in, perhaps we have encountered the modern age people who do not share bonds or share friendship, only what loot can be rolled on..

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by heremypet

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

thats what i hate about mmos, we're always looking ahead to next year :|

According to one of the polls on the front page of this site, more than 25% of MMORPG.com users are not subscribed to any MMOs.

 

wow thats pretty bad lol o_O

guess we're all waiting haha

I'm betting it's more. Most people are too upset with MMO to even answer $$.

Anticipation is 9/10ths of the fun, right?

Wait  for years for the next 'big' MMO. Play it for a few weeks, maybe months. Then it's back to hardcore waiting. That sums up almost seven years of MMOs for me.

But it's different now. I don't wait. I don't sign up for closed betas. I don't rabidly track every post on the 'official' forums. When a game hits the shelves, then I consider it... after I read the first impression reviews.

Between games, I focus on going out with friends, avoiding games in general.  It's all about balance.

I play less games that way, but probably enjoy them more when I do.

/psych 101 :))

I think it's mainly PVE burnout. every game (darkfall aside) its a PVE grind --> new Game--> PVE grind.

I always thought that a solid idea would be account swaps between games, swap a top level AoC for a top level WoW  then swap for a top level WAR or top level Aion, etc. Thus it  allows you to skip the PVE grinds entirely