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HETHENS!!!! NOW IS THE TIME TOO REPENT!
for Darkfall will take you back and Lord Tacos is forgiving, and his mercy knows no bounds! return too the promised land, and embrace glory! |
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Originally posted by Guillermo197
No it is not. Am I spoiled by World of Warcraft? As that seems to be the most popular motto of all time these days. NO I AM NOT! Not one single bit! I enjoyed WoW a lot. Played it for nearly 2 years and then quit shortly after TBC. Yet, I keep on returning to LOTRO and EQ2 and still enjoy playing these games. Both in the same category. Warhammer Online was a great and fun game to play. I enjoyed it a great deal and managed to stick with it till January this year. It was the ...
Dear Guill, read what you just wrote: You played Wow for 2 years, you played War for 4 months, you played Aion for 1 month. And I think you just took a life sub for lotro, but in no way are you playing that game non stop. So you really answered my remark. Take of the glasses. That's why you can replace all the remarks for all those games with ... (little dots). Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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And this game got the greatest score ever given by a staff writer... 8.7/10. Maybe he meant that 8.7/10 people will leave after this first free month. |
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Kaocan
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Joined: 8/18/09
The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. |
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Dear Guill, read what you just wrote: You played Wow for 2 years, you played War for 4 months, you played Aion for 1 month. And I think you just took a life sub for lotro, but in no way are you playing that game non stop. So you really answered my remark. Take of the glasses. That's why you can replace all the remarks for all those games with ... (little dots). Actually, I think you might be assuming a little much there. It is possible for people to play more than one game at the same time and still be playing them non-stop. Some of us actually can play 2 or even 3 of them at once. For example, if I play WoW when I get off work in the mornings because thats when my guild is online, then I'm playing it right? And I play CoH when I have a day off on Tuesdays, each week, then I'm playing it too right? And then I play Aion on my weekends off, then I'm playing it too right? To assume someone isn't continuously playing a game because its not the ONLY one they play is actually wrong.
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Originally posted by Kaocan
Partly you're right. But I also think that ANY mmorpg is such a time sink, that playing two or more at the same time is always at the cost of the others. And so people can SAY they play 3 mmo's at the same time. But unless they have NO job, NO life and NO kids and be married, they really don't play any at all. So after a (very short) period of time they ... decide. Mostly that's the end of the free month. The vast majority leaves after the 3/4 months are up. Simple by the fact of ... one free month and a subs card/or quarter Visa sub. The end: You choose and most come back to a new WOW expansion (oooh oooh not on mmorpg.com of course, but I mean people who actually play these things).
Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
I played WoW from July 2005 till 1 month after The Burning Crusade expansion. And the reason I quit, was because I finally got totally fed up with the community. Not even the game itself lol. When I played WAR for 4 months. It was the only game I played at that time. LOTRO. I don't have a life sub, but maybe I should have done it back then. That's a different matter. At the moment I have both a sub for LOTRO and EverQuest 2 and enjoy both games. My gf loves EverQuest 2, so I play that game mostly with her and LOTRO when I play alone. AION would have been my replacement for LOTRO, as I was interested in the RvR aspect of AION. I just can't stand it that everywhere I go I run into trains of bots 24/7, even see legit players (in legions even) botting away during both primetime and off hours. All in plain sight! Because they know NCSoft sucks at support and doesn't give a damn. Sorry. Maybe you guys can put up a blindfold and pretend they are not there and don't mind being 1-shotted in PVP by cheaters who bought themselves full gold sets with RMT. I can't! When www met dot , they then stumbled upon Secret Society , wich happened to be a Guild , wich in turn told dot about the net . |
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What I find curious is that some ppl actually believe what the OP said is true, lol Playing: Aion, World of Warcraft, Dragon Age Origins |
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Aion is not too bad..but is not too good also...map design with narrow zones, very linear gameplay and some stuff i cant figure out makes the game boring...
Something is missing, and 4 y playing wow makes almost all mmos look bad...wow is still the most enjoyable..but im tired trying to find a new mmo..but they all suck...i mean i spent alot of money lately in mmos..nothing keeps me going...
Waiting on SWTOR, star trek, Mortal Online... |
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Originally posted by tryklon
We ignored the OP long ago already. We are discussing the game itself now. Keep up man!! When www met dot , they then stumbled upon Secret Society , wich happened to be a Guild , wich in turn told dot about the net . |
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Originally posted by Guillermo197
We ignored the OP long ago already. We are discussing the game itself now. Keep up man!!
I know, but i find laughable the attempts of this people Playing: Aion, World of Warcraft, Dragon Age Origins |
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Kaocan
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Joined: 8/18/09
The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. |
Originally posted by Pocahinha I personally believe you have hit the nail on the head with why so many people continue to play WoW. It's not that its the end all of MMOs, it's just the only one that doesn't suck in the past 4 years. One reason or another, every one that has come out in the time of WoW's reign, has had a flaw which caused the player base to go back to what they knew. Personally I'm just kicking back in Fallen Earth right now and waiting on TSW to come out, if it ever does that is.
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Originally posted by tryklon
He exagerated in the 50% part. But the situation of the servers never lie. As 60% of the people were logging on concurrenly in the first week (NCsoft source) you had queus with a server based capacity of around 180K players (12/12 * 7 K players). The present day capacity is 14/18 * 7K players, so that means they can handle around 250K players concurrently at max load... The sad problem is the oversampled rate of Aion Xfire players (300K sub based EVE is played 4 times less than Aion), so there is an oversampling of around 5K Aion FXire players out of the 11K present. The game came now under 10K coming from 12K at the first full weekend ... (substracting the 5K fixed oversampling) that would mean a loss of 2 K Xfire players on 7 K real samples. That would mean the usual 30% drop off just before the end of the free period. 30% is the usual drop in the first free month. So nothing unusual either. The next big drop will come around the 3/4 months mark, usual ending at around 30% retention rate. If the game has serious problems around that point it falls to War/Aoc pops (meaning around 10% of the initial burst). It's all math really.
Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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Yes, you are correct. NCSoft created Halloween just to keep subs. Mystery |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
He exagerated in the 50% part. But the situation of the servers never lie. As 60% of the people were logging on concurrenly in the first week (NCsoft source) you had queus with a server based capacity of around 180K players (12/12 * 7 K players). The present day capacity is 14/18 * 7K players, so that means they can handle around 250K players concurrently at max load... The sad problem is the oversampled rate of Aion Xfire players (300K sub based EVE is played 4 times less than Aion), so there is an oversampling of around 5K Aion FXire players out of the 11K present. The game came now under 10K coming from 12K at the first full weekend ... (substracting the 5K fixed oversampling) that would mean a loss of 2 K Xfire players on 7 K real samples. That would mean the usual 30% drop off just before the end of the free period. 30% is the usual drop in the first free month. So nothing unusual either. The next big drop will come around the 3/4 months mark, usual ending at around 30% retention rate. If the game has serious problems around that point it falls to War/Aoc pops (meaning around 10% of the intial burst). It's all math really.
Yep i believe in the 30% loss |
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We will see if it will retain its usual 30% retention after 3 months and be on the same level as Lotro.
Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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Several things in this thread are great entertainment but what is with you people? NCSoft proved with L2 they will not bend to appease the western audience. They do not have to get 239567290743 subs here to be successful and believe it or not this country is not the center of the importance universe. That idiot over at Aion Source who wrote that big long letter could have just summed it up in a few words or simply..........Dear NCSoft, Please make this game a carbon copy of WOW with wings. That would have saved a ton of space. If you leave I promise you they will not care and will not be any less successful. All the folks spouting this was a WOW killer or stuff along those lines was also a fool. NCSoft history goes to show this and a company rarely changes its ways to satisfy a few. |
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If what you are saying was true, we'd be playing with gameguard right now. We are not. And this is just one thing among many additions done to the game due to western requests. Exp buffs is another one that is on test servers right now. So what you're saying is not true. |
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Originally posted by Xasapis Keep on dreaming mate. 1.5 was supposed to provide a huge increase and it didnt. The quest xp buff will be minimal and yet the players will think they won. GG was another issue as it was causing mass issues. They didnt get rid of it to appease the player base. Once again the core of the game will not change. And I promise NCSoft does not regard the western audience as a must have so keep thinking the whining will get you somewhere. Come back in a month read this post and remember what you said. If people want WOW they should play WOW and if they want Aion should play Aion. |
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1.5 was supposed to provide additional PvE content and quests, which it did. The increased experience for quest was due to another patch. I think you're a bit mixed up. |
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Originally posted by Xasapis It was intended to lessen the grind is what I was speaking to. It didnt. If I am wrong about them drastically changing the game towards the WOW casual model I will admit it as I admit freely when I am wrong but I just do not see it catering to the western folks is all. |
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I'm already level 35 and i play maybe 3 hours a day if im lucky. The game is far far from the grind that people had in lineage II. |
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From my understanding the game had PvE gaps that NCsoft wanted to address with the 1.5 patch. Whether they succeeded is another issue. I suppose that filling those gaps should have solved the need to grind mobs as the main method of gaining exp. This part they did not yet achieve. And due to this issue, they've been testing the updated exp through quests in the test servers. |
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Originally posted by pencilrick
I wonder how much of this relates to Anime-ish type flying characters. Most Western players appear to be comfortable with "feet-on-the-ground" Tolkienesque-type characters. Some of these Eastern games are well-done, but a bit jarring, culturally-speaking. Were I to design an MMORPG, I think I would fit it to the market.
Just a guess, but I think the days of Tolken clones will be done for a while. Seems more and more are just over that genre. I know my friends and I are. Playing Fallen Earth, will check out Star Terk, and waiting for World of Darkness. If I ever see a pixeled Elf or Dwarf again it will be to soon. |
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I stopped playing Aion for a few reasons.
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