Originally posted by luckturtz

Aion had smoother launch than WoW and just about ever other mmo,Ratings of games are 75% launch and 25% game play.Early rating for mmo do not matter just look at War and AoC.The problem with rating mmos is that reviewers can not play the endgame or predict the problems with fixing issues in the game.So yes based on Rating system Aion is one of the best mmo every released but for mmo the re rating are actually the most important rating.

Until MMOs test more for the end game this type of rating we will see,Could anyone predict that funcom would ingnore all the AoC probelms for months and would be unable to figure out probelms with sieges and pvp balance,or that War PVE would have so little depth that it couldn't keep the WoW players,It is impossible to predict how companies will fix probelms or how players will make gameplay the end. MMO are about endgame or endgame skills and their is no way 2 months and probably even 6 months you will get a proper review of how a game will be.

I will end with this Aoc was not 7.9 at the start it was probably 6.5 but right now it is probably 7.9 even though nobody is playing it.War was probably not 8.4  it was probably 7.1 right now it is 8.4 but nobody is playing it.MMO improve drastically for the better over time,if players are going to ingore improvements to game and game turns the game they wanted it what is the point then.

 

 

First, let me say that yes, AION is a good game and had a great NA launch.  2nd, Luckturtz, please use your brain.  While AION did have a great NA launch, the actual launch of AION was a JOKE!  It released in Asia a year ago and it was on par with release of most MMORPGs today.  The reason why the NA was so smooth is that they had a year of live gamers to fix all the issues so when it was our turn, AION was a smooth running game.  You can thank the Asian players for putting up with most of the normal launch "bugs" and which resulted in a better game for us.  Trying to compare the AIONs launch in the west against WoW, WAR, and AoC is just wrong.  imho, while WoW had one of the best launches in the west, one had a launch even smoother and that was LOTRO.

Originally posted by Shannia

Trying to compare the AIONs launch in the west against WoW, WAR, and AoC is just wrong.  imho, while WoW had one of the best launches in the west, one had a launch even smoother and that was LOTRO.

 

I'd like a word with you on that... First two months of release I was only able to play about 30 hours through no fault of my own.

Originally posted by Shannia

 

 

First, let me say that yes, AION is a good game and had a great NA launch.  2nd, Luckturtz, please use your brain.  While AION did have a great NA launch, the actual launch of AION was a JOKE!  It released in Asia a year ago and it was on par with release of most MMORPGs today.  The reason why the NA was so smooth is that they had a year of live gamers to fix all the issues so when it was our turn, AION was a smooth running game.  You can thank the Asian players for putting up with most of the normal launch "bugs" and which resulted in a better game for us.  Trying to compare the AIONs launch in the west against WoW, WAR, and AoC is just wrong.  imho, while WoW had one of the best launches in the west, one had a launch even smoother and that was LOTRO.

 

I mention year in Korea beta,Chinese beta and live in Korea in my other post.People where comparing Aion score to WoW and saying Aion doesn't deserve it score.Aion "true launch" may have been a bit have been a bit buggier(actually the Korean launch was pretty smooth too) but it doesn't matter for this topic.MMO ratings are based on 75% how it is at launch and 25% gameplay and guess Aion was beta test about 4 times and had about 6 months live in other country where it could be patched and tweaked before touching us soil.Based on what they rate games by Aion deserves its rating and point does not change Aion had one of the best if not the best NA launch of mmo ever.

I again i will say early rating for mmo don't mean much i have read three reviews for Aion,one guy didn't make it to abyss,one guy barely made it 25 and one guy passed level 25.The reality is most mmo are getting rated on the areas where you will spend the least time in a mmo.Even if a mmo gave the reviewer a max level character it does not mean much because it takes a whole community leveling up to a high level to get true feel of how the games is going to go be.

The success of  Abyss is what Aion is going to be judge on how in world is a reviewer going to tell you that now.If somebody reviewed less than half of any other game would you even take that serious.So when this happens with mmo why are people shocked

First review of a mmo-Is the state of the game at launch

The rereview six month later-is the review that you should have gotten at launch

A review a year later--is the most accurate picture you will probably get on mmo

I think everyone is saying a bit of truth but it still all comes down to the staff of MMORPG not being very professional.

What needs to happen is to have another MMO dedicated community site to launch and start posting serious content and taking some place. This will force MMORPG to unlazy their ass and start giving out valuable information.

The mods do not even check these forums, no one is actively gathering some information and most articles are stolen from posters at times. It’s completely absurd but it seems to work… all this for the sheer reason that MMORPG has no direct competition really.

Despite what I’m saying, I like his current staff… they just need to brush up!
 

WTH is Pixie hollow and Freaky Creatures?

Who gives a F what MMORPG.COM reviews say??

Originally posted by Ponico

I think everyone is saying a bit of truth but it still all comes down to the staff of MMORPG not being very professional.

What needs to happen is to have another MMO dedicated community site to launch and start posting serious content and taking some place. This will force MMORPG to unlazy their ass and start giving out valuable information.

The mods do not even check these forums, no one is actively gathering some information and most articles are stolen from posters at times. It’s completely absurd but it seems to work… all this for the sheer reason that MMORPG has no direct competition really.

Despite what I’m saying, I like his current staff… they just need to brush up!
 

Heh, I agree with you Ponico.
 

Despite it's faults I still like MMORPG.COM.  I just wish that they weren't so obvious with it sometimes.

Originally posted by xzyax

Here is a simple table of the top 5 MMO scores given each year (from 2004-2009) here at MMORPG.COM

(I am including only original reviews, not re-reviews, or expansions).

 

Top Review Scores by Year

MMO Title	Reviewer	Review Date	Score
Aion	Sean Bulger	10/15/09	8.7
Pixie Hollow	Carolyn Koh	07/02/09	8.5
WAR	Michael Bitton	04/23/09	8.4
Free Realms	Sanya Weathers	06/11/09	8.3
Freaky Creatures	Carolyn Koh	4/30/09	8.0
Dungeon Runners	Joe Iuliani	04/08/08	7.9
AOC (1-20)	Jon Wood	06/19/08	7.9
Hellgate: London	Joe Iuliani	04/15/08	7.0
Asda Story	Joe Iuliani	10/09/08	6.0
LoTRO	Donna Desborough	06/18/07	8.5
SotNW: Granada Espada	Adele Caelia	08/06/07	7.4
Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates	Donna Desborough	03/30/07	7.4
Vanguard	Laura Genender	06/26/07	6.8
Scions of Fate	Adele Caelia	04/09/07	5.1
RF Online	Brian Perry Jr.	04/07/06	7.6
Disney's Toontown Online	Garrett Fuller	01/24/06	7.5
D&D Online	Garrett Fuller	5/29/06	7.3
Dofus	James Pittiglio	01/10/06	7.1
Auto Assault	Andrew Cranston	6/19/06	6.9
WoW	Reed Hubbard	4/13/05	8.1
Guild Wars	David Souza	06/07/05	8.1
City of Villians	Laura Genender	12/16/05	8.0
EQ2	Reed Hubbard	01/03/05	7.9
The Matrix Online	Richard Cox	5/10/05	7.3
DAoC	Mark Schembri	4/13/04	8.4
City of Heroes	Richard Cox	08/20/04	8.3
EvE Online	Reed Hubbard	09/24/04	8.3
SWG	Richard Cox	06/04/04	7.0
Ryzom	Reed Hubbard	10/31/04	7.0

 

So, we are to believe (from the review scores above) that this is the BEST MMO year of releases EVER!

Cool... I guess. 

 

Just thought it would be interesting to see what other gamers take is on the "inflation" of Review scores.  Are the MMOs really getting better and therefore deserve the higher scores? 

Or, is there something else going on here? 

 

(And yes I know, there are only 4 listed for 2008.  I didn't feel the other reviews met my standard of being original, non-expansion, or a re-review... i.e. AOC was reviewed twice.  I put in the first review.  I also didn't include reviews done for the first time here on MMORPG.COM, but done quite awhile after the game was released... i.e. EQ and UO).

 

(If any mistakes are found, please let me know and I'll correct them asap).

Is that guy's name really "Richard Cox"?

LOL