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Originally posted by Reborn17

In other words If every person was my size (I'm bigger than average) the whole population of the world could fit in a pen 30 mi by 30 miles without even touching.

And wouldn't that be a wonderfull life.  No offense but that has to be one of the most insane arguments I've ever heard.  The fact that the entire population of the world would fit into a relatively small area if you crammed them in like sardines doesn't really mean anything as far as overpopulation is concerned.  You surely aren't suggesting that we could live like that?

Originally posted by Neanderthal

Originally posted by Reborn17

In other words If every person was my size (I'm bigger than average) the whole population of the world could fit in a pen 30 mi by 30 miles without even touching.

 

And wouldn't that be a wonderfull life.  No offense but that has to be one of the most insane arguments I've ever heard.  The fact that the entire population of the world would fit into a relatively small area if you crammed them in like sardines doesn't really mean anything as far as overpopulation is concerned.  You surely aren't suggesting that we could live like that?

The point... Neanderthal...is with a land surface of 57,500,000 squ miles we collectively take up a microscopic fraction of it which yes has everything to do with disproving the fallacy over overpopulation.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by left4shaman

Every one will have blonde hair, blue eyes, light skin and tall.

 

You think?  I do not think so.   I think it would be a lot more diversity than what a lot of people think.    :)

And how will diversity work when people start neglecting undesired genetical traits? It's not just about your skin tone or height.

Originally posted by Routver

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by left4shaman

Every one will have blonde hair, blue eyes, light skin and tall.

 

You think?  I do not think so.   I think it would be a lot more diversity than what a lot of people think.    :)

 

And how will diversity work when people start neglecting undesired genetical traits? It's not just about your skin tone or height.

Yeah, it's about the removal of random mutations/variations from the sequence. They would be some of the first things to go and probably without people even realizing they were doing it. All natural evolution would end at this point. The result probably wouldn't be positive for long even if it were smart and beautiful.

I was thinking about what someone said about giving these new Master Race children larger brains, and I went from there. Head size is naturally limited by the width of the woman's pelvis, but we can get around that now with C section. Suppose we get around the head size issue, then there's the problem of blood supply, the brain requires a load of blood, how will this effect life span and physical attributes?

To speak in a larger sense, we may be able to change ephemeral things like hair and eye color, but messing around with things like head size isn't like palette swapping your child. Gotta modify the skull, modify the heart, enhance neck to hold giant bobble head, and so on.

Creating an Aryan brat is one thing, but I think we're far off from forming a race of genetic supermen.

I hate to disagree but I'm not looking forward to this Eugenics thing. If this thing comes true then it would be the end of uniqueness and individuality.

Uniqueness and individuality is very important in our society today. That is why some people stand out in a crowd because they are unique and has special qualities that they could only have.

If the Eugenics would be successful it would surely have a great impact in our society and it would surely change a lot of things.

To Reborn - in my mind overpopulation is much more a question about available resources rather than available space. For example what percentage of the earths landmass is arable, etc..

Originally posted by Reborn17

Originally posted by Neanderthal

Originally posted by Reborn17

In other words If every person was my size (I'm bigger than average) the whole population of the world could fit in a pen 30 mi by 30 miles without even touching.

 

And wouldn't that be a wonderfull life.  No offense but that has to be one of the most insane arguments I've ever heard.  The fact that the entire population of the world would fit into a relatively small area if you crammed them in like sardines doesn't really mean anything as far as overpopulation is concerned.  You surely aren't suggesting that we could live like that?

 

The point... Neanderthal...is with a land surface of 57,500,000 squ miles we collectively take up a microscopic fraction of it which yes has everything to do with disproving the fallacy over overpopulation.

Uh huh...do I really have to point out the glaringly obvious flaw with your thinking?

Let me put it this way:  What you are saying about the human population is like saying there is enough wilderness area in the lower 48 states of the U.S.A. for billions of wolves to live wild and free because, see, each wolf can fit into a area roughly 6 feet long by 2 feet wide.  So with each wolf only requiring 12 square feet (and that my be overly generous) there is room for literally billions of wolves.

Yep, billions.  Nope, there is no flaw with that logic at all. 

/sigh, I feel like I have to post again because if you couldn't figure this out for yourself I feel you still might miss the point.

The point...Reborn17...is that the physical space each of our individual bodies occupies is very nearly irrelevant to the question of overpopulation.  The important thing is how much land and resources have to be used to support each of us.  Not just to keep us fed and clothed but also to maintain a lifestyle we would find acceptable.

And, presumably, most people wouldn't want to live in a world in which every square foot of land and sea were being used to support the human population so the question then is: how much is too much?  Some people feel we've already passed that point.  Some, like you, apparently feel that the world won't be overpopulated with humans untill every inch of the world is being used to keep the human population alive (the quality of that life apparently doesn't matter to you) and the world isn't overpopulated untill the carrying capacity of the earth to support humans and nothing else has been exceeded.