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General Discussion  » Tips on Dying.

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  popinjay

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/07/07
Posts: 6638

Aaron Rodgers>Brett Favre

 
10/17/09 4:30:47 AM#1

There are people playing AION who aren't used to actual "penalties" for dying in combat while playing a MMO, and you see they complaing over LFG channel (my pet peeve) about this game feature. I am not sure its because they are new to the genre and have just come from FPS games like COD4 where you die/respawn or don't die at all due to cheats/hacks, or if they came from games that give virtually no penalty whatsoever, or too small to be worried about. But I see people complaining about dying and how much it hurts so there are a few tips you should know before playing, or if you are playing be aware of.

(I'm sure these have been stated elsewhere so if you are aware of them you can skip them. I haven't seen them myself as I don't worry about death penalties too much.)

#1- Dying is best done right AFTER you level. It sound's weird but that's the best time to die is right after you ding. When you level and bite the dust, upon rez at your obelisk when you pay, you will only owe 1 kinah. That's all. The reason is you don't have as much experience points to buy back because you don't have any in the NEW level yet. Again, a lot are aware of this but some aren't. So if you are near the end of a day/two of leveling and are near dangerous mobs... you have to really be on your toes or you will be paying 30K kinah to get those points back, so that Green drop you just found will now have to pay for your repairs. After you ding, you can jump off of Sanctum and fall to your death over and over and over laughing the whole time. You pay peanuts.

#2- Die to an opposing player; not a mob. Now this may seem a little weird in a PvPvE game, but remember.. we are talking about the death penalty to you PERSONALLY; not your server or your legion or whatever. You earned that kinah so we are talking about helping you to keep it. I found this one out by accident leveling in the Abyss. Some Asmos swooped down right after I engaged some mobs (of course they knew that would be a better fight :P) and after I had given the mobs a few hits and they were starting to do their special attacks, here come the sneakies.


Now I was trying to figure out: do I fight these three guys, the mobs or do I run? The decision was made for me as I was wearing plate and got rooted, snared, statused up and couldn't Charge out. So with the mobs slightly behind these guys laying into me, the players killed me. I thought I was going to have a big bill dying there, but because a player actually killed me, my bill was only 1 kinah. If they had only weakened me and let the mob kill me, my bill would have been MUCH worse.

I actually did this to a Cleric who tried to gank attack after while I was near one of our forts we controlled. I used Inescapable Judgment on the cleric when she got too close, and pulled it right into our guard's aggro range and she got toasted bad... and quick lol. Since I didn't kill her, I know her bill was heavy. The only caveat to this is that if you are overly concerned about PvP rankings (which I am not), you possibly suffer with point loss and your name won't be up in lights on the forums as "E-peen of the Month" or whatever accolades come with it.


Since I don't worry about uber gear rewards from PvP either for the most part, I don't worry about how many points I lost and now can't get the Shiny PvP Sword of Pwnage. If you are one who climbs the ranks, this strategy may NOT be for you and you may just want to pay the bill. I'm a crafter doing several at the same time for the most part, so I want to keep the kinah, not the Abyss points or pats on the back. That 40K means at least 30 points in leveling mats for me so I'd rather have the cute, pouty Asmo chick fuse my metal plate to my skin with fire.

I'm sure I left other tips out other than "Don't Die!" so if anyone else can think of other ones, please feel free to add.

EDIT: typos..

  Shadow786

Novice Member

Joined: 4/14/04
Posts: 216

10/17/09 8:16:58 AM#2

dying is inevitable and those tips are situational, i just dont understand why the resses from priests dont give back exp like lineage 2

  FastTx

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 723

10/17/09 10:48:12 AM#3

Who is going to purposefully die right after leveling? How is that a tip?

Dying to PvP is situational because if you have a lot of Abyss Points it's the opposite and you'd rather die to mobs. I've had people fly into the Molten Core to purposefully not take a PvP death. Thats Rank 4 and below. I'd rather take a PvE death than a PvP death anyday.

  popinjay

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/07/07
Posts: 6638

Aaron Rodgers>Brett Favre

 
10/17/09 11:24:05 PM#4


Originally posted by FastTx

Who is going to purposefully die right after leveling? How is that a tip?


If your personal recall is down, then someone who has gear waiting in the bank to put on can die and go back to town.

That person would do that.


It's called "blood warping" in other MMOs where there is little consequence. It's a tip if you use more lateral thinking about how to get around in the game if you are in far away spot like a corner of the Abyss and don't feel like flying back, or you are in Sanctum and want to go back instantly.

Please don't repeat what I said as you somehow said something different from what I said. I already stated PvP death MAY be more preferable for a PvE centric person or crafter who wants to save the kinah that he'd have to pay from MOB death. For someone like you chasing the ladder, it's more preferable to lose the kinah. That was already stated as being situational.


You gave little insight there and just repeated what was said.

  Distaste

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/03/06
Posts: 570

10/18/09 7:43:20 AM#5

Here's one for ya.

If you are out in the abyss or maybe even the PvE zones and an enemy player is absolutely going to kill you, aggro as many mobs(non-friendly to them :P) as possible before he gets you. The mobs will auto-aggro them and with luck, kill them. Works even better if its a caster elite. The 33 balaur spot in upper abyss is great for this since it has a super hard hitting caster elite thats always up AND she removes flight time.

  Wickedjelly

Elite Member

Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 2512

The Dude abides

10/18/09 10:41:28 AM#6
Originally posted by popinjay

I actually did this to a Cleric who tried to gank attack after while I was near one of our forts we controlled. I used Inescapable Judgment on the cleric when she got too close, and pulled it right into our guard's aggro range and she got toasted bad... and quick lol. Since I didn't kill her, I know her bill was heavy. The only caveat to this is that if you are overly concerned about PvP rankings (which I am not), you possibly suffer with point loss and your name won't be up in lights on the forums as "E-peen of the Month" or whatever accolades come with it.


 

You don't incur xp debt when you die to the opposing faction's guards.  It's treated the same as being killed by another player.

1.For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2.To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.