Originally posted by Rallycart

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Mortemia

Yes, since you didn't have any issues with the game - no one has. Got it. Thank you for clearing this out.

 

Obviously, I am playing the game while you are not. Only one of us has credibility when talking about any ingame issues.

DB

 

That is a pretty bold statement... I agree that the OP is more than likely having issues on their end due to RAM or driver problems, but to act like everything is peachy just because your system is running it fine is stupid. I cant count the amount of games that have problems due to certain hardware configurations. Hell, even World of Warcraft... Several times in my last few years, they have added a patch that makes it completely impossible for me to play. Latency so crazy bad, that names would not show up (Unkowns everywhere) and chat would not work. Do you know what the problem was? Audigy sound cards, made by Creative Labs. Ever heard of a game called Mini Ninja? If you have any HID drivers other than the basic ones it hitches every couple seconds. You actually need to disable the drivers for your HID device (Cyborg Command Unit, Saitek Eclipse Keyboard AND my Cyborg Mouse...) in order for the game to play smoothly. Fallout 3? Yep, crashes due to onboard soundcard.

Not to mention the problems that many games have with ATi cards...

I never said everything is peachy for everyone. Where did you read that? It was only put in my mouth by the post I reacted to. Check again.

I only posted to pinpoint obvious BS (like disappearing horses and textures would be normal - no, they aren't), and also to emphasize that the game is not even remotely in the same shape as it was in beta. I did play it in beta, and I can see the improvement.

I have ATI btw, and playing on 64 bit Win7... I don't have 1 single game that freezes/bugs atm. Last one was LOTRO having a very, very rare BSOD, and it was because of some sound issues connected to a single efffect that Loremasters had...funny :)

Anyways, my point is, that if you have only quality, healthy HW and good, reliable drivers, you will not likely to have issues in most games. FE is exactly like that.

(BTW OP's issues looks very much like a RAM problem...)

DB

The OPs problem sounds like a driver issue to me.

When I first started playing FE's launch I attempted to run the game in SLI with my 8800GT OCs. After disabling the whole SLI thing the game played smoother. Updating the drivers fixed the odd invisible horse thing for me as well (invis horse issue exists in game, but its due to the graphics card not properly rendering it.

The game also makes use of both cores of my CPU (C2D E6600 OC'd to 3.5ghz)

I can run the game at 1920x1200 Max settings sans shadows (cause they are still a bit wonky) and running AA and AF via the graphics card and not the game itself. The system also has 4 gigs of memory, OS is Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit. In towns such as Oilville and Embry I run at 36-50 FPS near large amounts of players. Outside towns I hit around 70-90 FPS.

I havent really had too many graphical errors since updating the drivers (or rolling back to an older set depending on how finiky your system might be)

As for the whole "No one said hi back" thing, most people disable the chat bubbles, so they wont always see them, as well as most people end up blocking local and help channels due to how fast the chat will spam by. Other may be talking in tells to other people using a separate window, and many people just hang out in clan chats. I personally have had many conversations with different people in the game.

Sorry the game wasnt for you, not many people from Generation WoW will find FE to be fun, and thats OK as there are plenty other games out there that will be more of a fit for them.\

Also, one thing to remember about computers: Just because you have the biggest and baddest or the newest most bleeding edge piece of tech, it doesnt mean its gonna run as awesome as you would expect it to. Specially when overclocking comes into play.

If it takes you only 45 minutes to determine whether or not you want to play a game, then MMO's are definetly not for you.

Seriously, you need to give it more then 45mins lol.

When I first started playing I was disappointed. I tried to get my money back and all, but while doing that I kept playing.

It has now been a week and I have fallen in love with the game. It took a bit of time, but I am now glad I bought it!

45MINS IS NOT LONG ENOUGH!

Seriously 45 minutes is like buying season tickets to the Ravens and leaving before the first half of the preseason game. WAY to short a time to even get familiar with the mechanics let alone the game.

Also I think despite best intentions or wants the themepark mentality has infected everyone playing MMO's the past 4 years. The number of folks I see who intially disliked the game and who have grown to like or love it with more playtime leads me to this conclusian. Its a hybrid sandbox and won't give you much if anything in a hours play, its mean't to go the long haul.

I've been following FE for quite some time and after beta I had decided to wait until the reviews came out before paying for the game. Only a couple reviews have come out and so far nothing all that enticing. Having said that, this thread alone is enough to stop me from jumping in at this point. No, it's not because of what the OP said but rather how the "supportive" community has responded. I honestly believe that the community is the games worst enemy as the majority of those posting against the OPs statements have had nothing but negative, ugly things to say in response.

For shame.

Originally posted by FlaFringe

I've been following FE for quite some time and after beta I had decided to wait until the reviews came out before paying for the game. Only a couple reviews have come out and so far nothing all that enticing. Having said that, this thread alone is enough to stop me from jumping in at this point. No, it's not because of what the OP said but rather how the "supportive" community has responded. I honestly believe that the community is the games worst enemy as the majority of those posting against the OPs statements have had nothing but negative, ugly things to say in response.

For shame.

The community in the game on the whole is actually quite good and very helpful.  /shrug

Originally posted by Piivot

 

Mature player base, and no apparent gold farmers.  I was in a beginning city..(embro something)  and hit an invisible wall riding my mount.  People were up on this invisible platform.  I was also able to walk up onto it.  No idea what it was.  People rode past me on invisible mounts.  I rubberbanded quite a few times.

And finally...there was plenty of chat in the Help channel, but not ONE player would say hi back to me in local chat which included a chat bubble. 

Everyone was in a hurry to level up.   Tell me;  is socializing and being friendly  a bygone part of an mmo?

 

Not the game for me.  This is my 2nd 50 dollar game to be taken off my system in less than 4 days. 

I'd hate to return to WoW and deal with the immaturity just to find people to talk and group with.

 

 

Your posts sounds about like my original impression of FE.  I slammed this game hard after the first time I tried it.  But, I'm a stubborn ol' goat and don't like dropping $50 without giving something more than an hour of my time.  I can say this, the graphics issues you are having are both FE and your fault.  I spent some time looking over the official forums because I was appalled at the graphics in the game.  After a few tweaks to some graphics card settings and in game settings I stopped having problems with stuff disappearing and horrible lag.  The game isn't optimized yet and reminds me a lot of AoC in that way.  

The community in the game is one of my favorite parts about FE, and I didn't appreciate it the first time around.  As someone said earlier, most chatting goes on in the help channel and the region chats.  It's been my experience so far that the community is fun and very helpful.  Of course,  you have some that are douchebags but what game doesn't have those? 

Sorry that you didn't like the game much, and in the end nobody can tell you what is or is not for you.  I just remember having your same reaction and then giving it more time and being glad I hadn't quit so soon. 

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Originally posted by Piivot
And finally...there was plenty of chat in the Help channel, but not ONE player would say hi back to me in local chat which included a chat bubble.
Not the game for me.  This is my 2nd 50 dollar game to be taken off my system in less than 4 days. 
I'd hate to return to WoW and deal with the immaturity just to find people to talk and group with.

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You're getting upset/annoyed over people not responding to you wtihin 45 mins. of gameplay? From a female gamer to another female gamer, that makes me laugh. You also seem to be taking things too personally and backlash at any bit of criticism from anyone, but that's another story :)
 
As for your issues, at least give it another shot. Get your drivers updated and see if there are any remaining issues. You might as well considering you paid the $50 for it. if you had played in beta or at least done some research on the game before taking a risky leap, you would've known that it wasn't all that optimized and still has performance problems. Hell, that's why I'm not playing it.
 
Lastly, why return to a game that you wanted to quit in the first place? Doesn't seem logical to me at all. There are plenty of games out there with people to play with if you give them a chance (yeah, not 45 mins)

Originally posted by Airwren

Originally posted by FlaFringe

I've been following FE for quite some time and after beta I had decided to wait until the reviews came out before paying for the game. Only a couple reviews have come out and so far nothing all that enticing. Having said that, this thread alone is enough to stop me from jumping in at this point. No, it's not because of what the OP said but rather how the "supportive" community has responded. I honestly believe that the community is the games worst enemy as the majority of those posting against the OPs statements have had nothing but negative, ugly things to say in response.

For shame.

 

The community in the game on the whole is actually quite good and very helpful.  /shrug

Sure, if you discount the first reply, the one above mine, and the majority in-between. This isn't anything new either. Over the past 3 weeks I have read more poster bashing than anything else. Why is it that anytime someone posts anything negative about FE the majority of posts that follow have to personally attack the OP? Maybe it's just here and not on the official boards. Maybe I'm just blind or have had too high of expectations. Either way, in my opinion, it's becoming very unsafe to post anything that contradicts those that absolutely love this game.

I was hoping for more from the game before it was released but I can wait for the improvements to see how it fairs down the road. In the meantime, it would have been nice if the community was a bit more supportive as opposed to defensive since that's something that is unlikely to change over time.

The community is saying for the most part 45 minutes isnt enough time to give a accurate judgement on a shallow cheerleader game like Aion, let alone a hybrid sandbox with depth like FE.

Still to each thier own. I used to say its not for everyone, but I've seen too many people do complete 180's on this game after initial bad reviews to really beleive it. It takes time, but almost everyone seems to turn around.

Originally posted by blakavar

The community is saying for the most part 45 minutes isnt enough time to give a accurate judgement on a shallow cheerleader game like Aion, let alone a hybrid sandbox with depth like FE.

Still to each thier own. I used to say its not for everyone, but I've seen too many people do complete 180's on this game after initial bad reviews to really beleive it. It takes time, but almost everyone seems to turn around.

And just who are you referring to? *cough* *cough*

YOU! Well myself too, I said it blows after the 1st day in beta, but now I'm a pom pom twirling cheerleader of FE . :p

Originally posted by blakavar

YOU! Well myself too, I said it blows after the 1st day in beta, but now I'm a pom pom twirling cheerleader of FE . :p

LOL!  Glad I could join the club with ya. ;d

45mins is not long enough to know if it is a good game or not, at least 2-3 hours for that.
i am in no hurry to raise my power level as i am only 4, and i know a lot who also are in no hurry.
i do not talk in local at all really as i use team or clan and if you do not want to go back to wow then do not go back. there are lot of good games out there. just have to find the one that you like.

To the OP,i lasted about 9 days, but i really only login about 5 of those 9.It had nothing to do with chat,because i have had so many chat boxes piss me off in other games ,i nearly quit in an instant,so this time,i chose to remove it from my view.

The problem for me is,i really wanted a good crafting game,but this game does crafting like EVE does skills,and that is not a good thing.I don't want anything auto done and i don't want anything close to a spread sheet game.

There is literally no mechanics in crafting,so if the devs ever read this ..take note,i want a game inside the game ,not just a data base.The harvesting/gathering should be or needs to be a lot more realistic,it has the feel of a an older console game using cheap nodes.Everything is a node in the game,the things you cannot interact with are all decals,this is the area that gives the game a boring feel/look.I remember many years ago playing UO and it felt like anything i could see in the game,i could use or pick up.Now several years later we have a game that does less with more PC power.

Combat as many say is clunky,it is because nothing is fluent,it has a sort of unrealistic movement to it.The world is VERY dead,the small file size of the game shows this,as there is just not enough effort put into the game.

I cannot even say it is a good start to a game,because like i said both crafting and combat would need complete over hauls to satisfy me.The game is what it is, a smallish developer with a smallish effort,an average game at best.There is something for everyone though and i know there will be people that like this laid back type of game,but i am not one of them.

On a final note,this game file should easily be in the 7+ GB,my opinion closer to10GB range to have the fullness and content i expect.As  it is 744 mb is no where near the content you need in a game like this.It has the feel of a game that only went part way in carrying out its design.

Originally posted by Wizardry

To the OP,i lasted about 9 days, but i really only login about 5 of those 9.It had nothing to do with chat,because i have had so many chat boxes piss me off in other games ,i nearly quit in an instant,so this time,i chose to remove it from my view.

The problem for me is,i really wanted a good crafting game,but this game does crafting like EVE does skills,and that is not a good thing.I don't want anything auto done and i don't want anything close to a spread sheet game.

There is literally no mechanics in crafting,so if the devs ever read this ..take note,i want a game inside the game ,not just a data base.The harvesting/gathering should be or needs to be a lot more realistic,it has the feel of a an older console game using cheap nodes.Everything is a node in the game,the things you cannot interact with are all decals,this is the area that gives the game a boring feel/look.I remember many years ago playing UO and it felt like anything i could see in the game,i could use or pick up.Now several years later we have a game that does less with more PC power.

Combat as many say is clunky,it is because nothing is fluent,it has a sort of unrealistic movement to it.The world is VERY dead,the small file size of the game shows this,as there is just not enough effort put into the game.

I cannot even say it is a good start to a game,because like i said both crafting and combat would need complete over hauls to satisfy me.The game is what it is, a smallish developer with a smallish effort,an average game at best.There is something for everyone though and i know there will be people that like this laid back type of game,but i am not one of them.

On a final note,this game file should easily be in the 7+ GB,my opinion closer to10GB range to have the fullness and content i expect.As  it is 744 mb is no where near the content you need in a game like this.It has the feel of a game that only went part way in carrying out its design.

just thought i would correct something for you the game file is 5.5 gigabyte . the 744 is probobly the original file you down load to start patching
 

Originally posted by FlaFringe

Originally posted by Airwren

Originally posted by FlaFringe

I've been following FE for quite some time and after beta I had decided to wait until the reviews came out before paying for the game. Only a couple reviews have come out and so far nothing all that enticing. Having said that, this thread alone is enough to stop me from jumping in at this point. No, it's not because of what the OP said but rather how the "supportive" community has responded. I honestly believe that the community is the games worst enemy as the majority of those posting against the OPs statements have had nothing but negative, ugly things to say in response.

For shame.

 

The community in the game on the whole is actually quite good and very helpful.  /shrug

 

Sure, if you discount the first reply, the one above mine, and the majority in-between. This isn't anything new either. Over the past 3 weeks I have read more poster bashing than anything else. Why is it that anytime someone posts anything negative about FE the majority of posts that follow have to personally attack the OP? Maybe it's just here and not on the official boards. Maybe I'm just blind or have had too high of expectations. Either way, in my opinion, it's becoming very unsafe to post anything that contradicts those that absolutely love this game.

I was hoping for more from the game before it was released but I can wait for the improvements to see how it fairs down the road. In the meantime, it would have been nice if the community was a bit more supportive as opposed to defensive since that's something that is unlikely to change over time.

I guess you must have ignored most of the posts then because aside from my admittedly, hostile-ish post and around maybe 8 or 9 other posts (including three hostile posts from the OP herself), the majority of the responses haven't been bad at all. In fact, many people were quite sympathetic to the OP and even offered helpful suggestions and friendly advice. 

But if you want to base an entire community (and your decision to try the game) on a few less-than-friendly posters, it's your call. I've played mmos for 10 years and I can safely say that from my experience, FE is shaping up to have one of the best communities I've seen in a long, long time. I'll admit that I personally get a bit ill-tempered from time to time, but it's usually for good reason.

Originally posted by FlaFringe

I've been following FE for quite some time and after beta I had decided to wait until the reviews came out before paying for the game. Only a couple reviews have come out and so far nothing all that enticing. Having said that, this thread alone is enough to stop me from jumping in at this point. No, it's not because of what the OP said but rather how the "supportive" community has responded. I honestly believe that the community is the games worst enemy as the majority of those posting against the OPs statements have had nothing but negative, ugly things to say in response.

For shame.

Well, if this is true, than you are certainly not playing any MMO at all.

The FE boards have probably the most positive attitude around. Check other games's boards...

DB

Originally posted by FlaFringe

I've been following FE for quite some time and after beta I had decided to wait until the reviews came out before paying for the game. Only a couple reviews have come out and so far nothing all that enticing. Having said that, this thread alone is enough to stop me from jumping in at this point. No, it's not because of what the OP said but rather how the "supportive" community has responded. I honestly believe that the community is the games worst enemy as the majority of those posting against the OPs statements have had nothing but negative, ugly things to say in response.

For shame.

It's probably one of the best communities I've seen.  You need to do more homework.

Originally posted by Wizardry

The problem for me is,i really wanted a good crafting game,but this game does crafting like EVE does skills,and that is not a good thing.I don't want anything auto done and i don't want anything close to a spread sheet game.

There is literally no mechanics in crafting,so if the devs ever read this ..take note,i want a game inside the game ,not just a data base.The harvesting/gathering should be or needs to be a lot more realistic,it has the feel of a an older console game using cheap nodes.Everything is a node in the game,the things you cannot interact with are all decals,this is the area that gives the game a boring feel/look.I remember many years ago playing UO and it felt like anything i could see in the game,i could use or pick up.Now several years later we have a game that does less with more PC power.

Somehow I have a feeling your idea of a quality crafting system would be both tedious and needlessly time consuming.  If you want some awesome "realistic" crafting there is always Aion... where you are anchored to a workshop for endless hours slamming your head into a workbench and doing little else.  Or Darkfall, where you want to slit your wrists from the absolute irritation and tedium.

You guys are all right. I must have mistook the claims that the OP is lying, claiming BS, calling her ridiculous and a hypocrite as negative posts. Not to mention how certain posters love to claim ignorance on the part of anyone they don't agree with. My bad.

Granted, there are many FE fans that were / are trying to be helpful and understanding...it's the other half that needs to keep quite for the betterment of the entire community. When someone doesn't like a "game" there's no need to get personal about it. Either try to help or ignore.

I've been around plenty of MMO forums, still active on several and have moderated a couple as well. I have seen some of the worst and some of the best. Right now, on this particular site, I'm truly on the fence about this one. Since I'm not looking to high-jack this thread or start a fight with anyone this will be my last post on the subject. I'm nearly sorry that I even bothered to bring it up.

Peace.

Ultima Online for a good player base

Originally posted by FlaFringe

You guys are all right. I must have mistook the claims that the OP is lying, claiming BS, calling her ridiculous and a hypocrite as negative posts. Not to mention how certain posters love to claim ignorance on the part of anyone they don't agree with. My bad.

Granted, there are many FE fans that were / are trying to be helpful and understanding...it's the other half that needs to keep quite for the betterment of the entire community. When someone doesn't like a "game" there's no need to get personal about it. Either try to help or ignore.

I've been around plenty of MMO forums, still active on several and have moderated a couple as well. I have seen some of the worst and some of the best. Right now, on this particular site, I'm truly on the fence about this one. Since I'm not looking to high-jack this thread or start a fight with anyone this will be my last post on the subject. I'm nearly sorry that I even bothered to bring it up.

Peace.

You are talking about the MMORPG.com community, right?

Yeah, pun intended.

Originally posted by Wizardry

There is literally no mechanics in crafting,so if the devs ever read this ..take note,i want a game inside the game ,not just a data base.The harvesting/gathering should be or needs to be a lot more realistic,it has the feel of a an older console game using cheap nodes.Everything is a node in the game,the things you cannot interact with are all decals,this is the area that gives the game a boring feel/look.I remember many years ago playing UO and it felt like anything i could see in the game,i could use or pick up.Now several years later we have a game that does less with more PC power.

Combat as many say is clunky,it is because nothing is fluent,it has a sort of unrealistic movement to it.The world is VERY dead,the small file size of the game shows this,as there is just not enough effort put into the game.

I cannot even say it is a good start to a game,because like i said both crafting and combat would need complete over hauls to satisfy me.The game is what it is, a smallish developer with a smallish effort,an average game at best.There is something for everyone though and i know there will be people that like this laid back type of game,but i am not one of them.

 

You have the same issues I do with the game, I played since mid July in beta and loved the game.  After two weeks after the pre-launch I could not stand the boring crafting system.  Its a nice idea in theory, but really thats all I want to do in the game and found myself logging of after I queued up a few hours of crafting items, only to log in with an hour left to go get more stuff to craft.  I found combat to be quite boring myself regardless of melee or ranged.

@OP..seriously 45 minutes?  It takes me that long to figure out hardware issues if any, proper game settings, and to even remotely figure out what I am doing.  In a game that throws you in like FE you made it through the tutorial in roughly 15-25min, and spent less than 30minutes in the game.  You didn't even have a chance to play it, you bought it assuming it would wow you over so you could find a new game.  If failed from the moment you stepped in an did your first mission.  You probably could not figure out how to craft the bandages, how to put actions on your toolbars and said screw this(assuming you figured out how to swap between your weapons)  If you do not want to spend a few hours in a game, it will automatically suck.

I was umm..15ish when Baldur's Gate(not the second) came out and if I gave it a 45 minute go I would of said it sucked and moved on missing a  great game.  If your going to waste the money waste it at least proving to yourself the game blows by a fair chance.