Originally posted by Reanim

Logged on today to play a bit and found we have some new interesting folks playing. Some low life was running around called Pedophile. Then to top things off I hit the bank and Molestor was there.

This kind off crap would not fly in any mainstream game yet here its kind of the norm. Whats going to happen when some underage kid playing this game is exposed to this and parents find out. Can you say LAW SUIT, BAD PUBLICITY etc...

Spammers, bots, farmers and now low life scum... NCsoft... ITS time to monitor your servers.

Reanim

LOLOL I saw that molester dude also he was cool.

Damn. I cant understand why you guys even try to argue for the right to have that kind of nicke name. Its just plain scary that you argue about it and I hope that we dont share the same community than mmorpg.com. And why its so plain is becuse you are not supposed to create that kind of nick name becuse of simple reason. But you dont understand that I suppose.

edit; just look at the guy over my post...

There just names.....get over it.

Please tell me how these names specifically are going to affect people negatively.

It it is just someone trying to get attention in a game were they are anonimous and cant get in trouble..i say let them do this in a game so they cant affect real life with thier insensitive behaviour...but i highly doubt it is anyway dangerous to have these players with these names. How about spending your time protesting something that matters.

Peaple get over it and go back to church where you belong.

Originally posted by Reanim

Logged on today to play a bit and found we have some new interesting folks playing. Some low life was running around called Pedophile. Then to top things off I hit the bank and Molestor was there.

This kind off crap would not fly in any mainstream game yet here its kind of the norm. Whats going to happen when some underage kid playing this game is exposed to this and parents find out. Can you say LAW SUIT, BAD PUBLICITY etc...

Spammers, bots, farmers and now low life scum... NCsoft... ITS time to monitor your servers.

Reanim

Three letters come to mind >>>PVP,can you expect any different from a PVP based game?I have prolly said it a thousand times,PVP is drama,childish communities,egos ect ect,i have no use for PVP in a MMORPG.

When i went from FFXI to EQ2 there was little to no change ,pretty much i see a lot of never seen WTS and WTB chat spam but the rest was normal.When i went to WOW it was like flicking  a light switch,it was that bad.Go back to playing FFXI for several years,never even think twice about chat,it is NEVER diluted ,neither is the community.Decide about 2 years later,to pop back in WOW and see if anything has changed,starts out alright for about 2 days lol,then same old crap.

When you actually have to see botting,RMT,childish chat,childish community,the game design is bad.There is no way i can stay in a game like that period.I even quit FFXI when i heard they were cleaning up bot fisherman,yet i saw a whole slew of them everyday in the exact same places.Finally i went back a year later,and it was pretty much cleaned right up.

I think it has become quite evident outside of the fanbois trying to make excuses for NCSOFT,that the developer has not changed it's ways,it's servers and community are still VERY weak.You could transition from L2 to AION and feel right at home,that is not a good thing.

Originally posted by masterbbb26

There just names.....get over it.

Please tell me how these names specifically are going to affect people negatively.

It it is just someone trying to get attention in a game were they are anonimous and cant get in trouble..i say let them do this in a game so they cant affect real life with thier insensitive behaviour...but i highly doubt it is anyway dangerous to have these players with these names. How about spending your time protesting something that matters.

 

Peaple get over it and go back to church where you belong.

If they are just name I guess its ok for you that a player can take the nick name he/she wants? If its ok than I feel sorry for you and the narrow world you are living in. And if you cant understand why some names can affect people negative then you must have forgotten alot of years of your life. Remember all the nicknames we gave to the less popular kid in school.

And spending time on a subject that matters? Please step off the box you are standing on get along with the rest of us. Becuse you cant decide what subject is importent. And I do believe that what we do infront of the screen reflects our doings outside the screen in someway.  A person that takes a name that we are talking about here is probably a person that few of us would like to know becuse of its imature mind.

I will say this for people who use outragious or vulgar names I am not to concerned with them, they are looking for attention or are imature doing what they think for the moment is cool in their mind.

Think of it like this how many siko's out their where a shirt that says I am a child molester or I am serial killer? these type of people mostly try to blened into their suroundings and most of the time when it gets to the 5,6, and 11 O clock news the people being interviewed are almost always saying I never would have suspected him.

When I was working in EQ we ran into some of the most unsavory people around, you could  not  even imagine these sicko's, tring to virtual rape people, stalk them, sending  tells that would make you want to vomit.

Do you think they had names like the before mentioned?  No they had normal names for a MMO they blendid in.

We could  not believe what was happening I think we where the first to truely have to deal with this stuff at no point did we ever think things would have gotten to the point they did, we expected the nice tits for a elf or nice ass coments but you could not imagine some of the stuff we ran into.

Be more concerend with what is typed in personal tell's or what is said in a vent by the person with a average joe name in a MMO rather then some  punk kid or imature adult seeking atention with a crazy name, 99.99% of the time it's not the crazy name charcter trying to do something sick, twisted or ilegal in the game. 

Originally posted by vvistovv

Well the game is rated T for Teen.  It is up the parent to decide what may or may not be appropriate for their child.

I'm pretty sure that calling your character "pedophile" is universally accepted as inappropriate.

Players with names like that should be reported and banned assap. Its a nobrainer.

Might not mean much for the average Joe, he might even think its funny. But its a whole other story for ppl who actually have had bad irl experiences. Imagine a victim for a sex crime who are getting continuelly ganked by a higher lvl player with the name "Rape". It is simply the principle; some ppl might end up having irl issues, while doing something which should be fun. And its not like it is a big deal to force a player without emphasis to change his name.

While I do find the name tasteless. You could be doing something more constructive with your thoughts rather then flinging them at each other like crap in a zoo monkey cage. Grow up. Some people find it offensive others see it as just a name.

ALSO. Tragedy plus time equals comedy. It's a fact. Now if the subject matter offends you stop feeding the trolls and go out and be more productive about it. Crying on mmorpg.com forums about it will get you NOWHERE. Nor will it change anyone's minds.

And this post is exactly the problem with the world today...

Instead of just ignoring something that really has 0 effect on them people have to find something to pick on. Like homosexuality, swearing, or a multitude of other issues...

If you don't like it, don't partake in it, let other people do what they want to do.

Try being tolerant instead of a douche bag and see where you end up, I bet you'll have more friends and live a richer and more full life.

I would like to point out people report named without even knowing the meaning, Friend in wow Named Homosuperior - meaning better then human, meaning people with a 6th sense, someone who is better then the normal, yes he was reported and was forced to change his name because people like the OP do not understand the meaning behind words and seems they do not want to educate kids about meanings behind words. People see Homo and jump to conclusions about the whole meaning.  Same with with molester pedofile, these are words kids should know about because there are bad people out there. so instead of sheltering, why not try to educate.

Also people really need to stop with the grammer and spelling errors that other people have, its a video game not an english class, and really most of the people who do this seem to be the ones who talk about someone else then get it tossed back at them and can only use grammer or spelling as a means to hurt someones feelings. 

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by dave6660

Agreed.  This same type of argument came up in the APB forums when somebody brought up adding drugs and prostitution to the game.  It seems people have serious problem with vice but murder and robbery are socially acceptable.

Why doesn't anyone get up in arms when somebody names their character "CrazyKiller"?

Because Christians have always been in favour of killing and opposed to drugs (other than alcohol and tobacco) and sex.

America's values are screwed up beyond belief.

I'm american, thank you for stereotyping me.

We don't have a monopoly on fanatical religious people killing in the name of "God".  

Originally posted by Reanim

Logged on today to play a bit and found we have some new interesting folks playing. Some low life was running around called Pedophile. Then to top things off I hit the bank and Molestor was there.

This kind off crap would not fly in any mainstream game yet here its kind of the norm. Whats going to happen when some underage kid playing this game is exposed to this and parents find out. Can you say LAW SUIT, BAD PUBLICITY etc...

Spammers, bots, farmers and now low life scum... NCsoft... ITS time to monitor your servers.

Reanim

You think the words "pedophile" and "molestor" are unacceptable words to "expose some underage kid" to.

GTFO....

AS usual the community will deal with ejits....

I've been saying this for a while: Aion has one of the worst communities I have ever seen in an MMO. It's as if Barren's chat, Something Awful and 4chan were genetically spliced together and made retarded.

Here are some high points of this community:

There are guilds called "White Power," "I DPed your mom" and "We Put it in Your Abyss."

Players with the most repugnant names. I saw a "Lolicon," running around the other day which, for those who don't know, means attraction to underage girls.

Earlier today I logged on to find a full out flame war in LFG with with some "NC17" rated expletives.

What's funny is that WoW community gets a bad rep. Compared to Aion's community, the one in WoW is made up of a bunch of saints.

On spatolos server I didn't see anything like your saying not even a noob and I've been playing for 5h+

There is a similar thread on Aionsource right now. The only thing both threads prove is that people on the Net will play devil's advocate with any subject; even moreso with controversial ones. There is nothing acceptable about the character name "Pedophile." Case closed.

Originally posted by Povey151

And this post is exactly the problem with the world today...

 

Instead of just ignoring something that really has 0 effect on them people have to find something to pick on. Like homosexuality, swearing, or a multitude of other issues...

If you don't like it, don't partake in it, let other people do what they want to do.

 

Try being tolerant instead of a douche bag and see where you end up, I bet you'll have more friends and live a richer and more full life.

So we should be tolerant of pedophilia? Do you belong to NAMBLA or something?

The very name itself should disgust any normal human being. It should bring a sense of revulsion to anyone who thinks the other person thinks they are being funny or cool by naming their character something like that. The fact that so many people in this thread are not instanly disgusted and repulsed by that kind of name says a lot about them.

Originally posted by Shari

Ok - what happens if a person playing Aion who has been molested in real life see's a character with this name. It's not going to effect them that much granted, however it is going to offend and maybe even upset them.

Now remember this person is just paying to play a game they enjoy - so who is in the wrong here?

If anyone says that it's the person who has been molested problem or they should get over it, then I give up - you must be right.

 

Btw: in regards to "it's just a word". The point of words is for meaning and communication, without meaning a word is nothing, but every word will always have meaning attached to it as it is the point of the word. Words and meanings go hand in hand, thats the whole point of language.

So that person also stays indoors and never goes outside right?  Never turns on the Tube either, or reads a newspaper.  Seriously because if they DID any of those things, they would be doing something they pay to ENJOY.

Just to let you know, it is THEIR problem.  They have to learn how to cope with that part of their life.  It is not mine or yours.  I could care less about someones name, and I have children neither offend me, because neither affect me in any way, shape, or form.

So whats the problem?

You're too easily offended and incapable of just shrugging and moving on? You dont see the dark humor in it? I wouldnt create a character by that name because of the risk of getting my character deleted but if someone else does and I see that person ingame I'll probably go "wth? lol" and then just move on with playing.

Lets get real though, people dont complain about things just because they are slightly offended... oh wait... people dont only consider their own ideals and show no regard to others just because their point of views dont match... oh wait...

Also... please dont try and guilt people by saying something "I'm a victim of -insert here- and find that disgusting" well I'm a victim of this and this and that... I dont ask you or anyone to adjust themselves to my liking, so therefore I reserve the right to myself to not have to adjust to yours.

Last but not least, you can twist the things I have said here like "so you're saying a murderer doesnt have to be stopped?" etc, I simply make a huge gamble by hoping you can read what I've said and use it for constructive thinking rather then just nitpicking my words.

Originally posted by Reanim

Logged on today to play a bit and found we have some new interesting folks playing. Some low life was running around called Pedophile. Then to top things off I hit the bank and Molestor was there.

This kind off crap would not fly in any mainstream game yet here its kind of the norm. Whats going to happen when some underage kid playing this game is exposed to this and parents find out. Can you say LAW SUIT, BAD PUBLICITY etc...

Spammers, bots, farmers and now low life scum... NCsoft... ITS time to monitor your servers.

Reanim

There is no doubt that someone naming their character a name like this is offensive. But if I am allowing my kid to play this game and she sees it, then I am going to use that oppurtunity as a "teachable moment". And then I am going to /ignore and report. No problem. This game has a teen rating. And if they are of a proper age to play it; you can be sure they already know about it.

Originally posted by narakuu

So whats the problem?

 

You're too easily offended and incapable of just shrugging and moving on? You dont see the dark humor in it? I wouldnt create a character by that name because of the risk of getting my character deleted but if someone else does and I see that person ingame I'll probably go "wth? lol" and then just move on with playing.

In essence...no. I do not see any humour in this at all. I know this wasnt directed at me specifically but since I am one of the ones posting on the other side I figured I would give one final response. The very fact that you would consider even the idea of this humorous in any fashion even in relation to it just being a game and its just polygons is disturbing. I too do not buy the argument of what if someone has been hurt or molested as a child sees the name and it hurts them etc etc. For me that is a side issue and to be dealt with on another level. For me it is about human decency at its very basic level. There are some things which are just not suitable material for jokes or kidding around or to be used to make oneself look "cool" because they are so brave as to use such material or I am so sophisticated I can remove myself from what this actually means. The individual using the name is none of these things. They are not funny. They are not cool. They are not somehow more sophisticated because they can "handle" such material. They are simply an immature brat who should be shunned by society as a whole untill they learn to grow up. Mature adults with a conscience should be disgusted and repulsed by this behavoir.

A good response to someone like that should be instead WTH? Grow up or go see a psychiatrist.

Legislation 101: The rights of one individual end where the rights of their neighbor begin.

To play devil's advocate and claim that Topic_352 or Name_823 is offensive for the sake of it is one thing. To advocate something that is a blatent crime (Molestation, Pedophilia, Rape, Hazing... pick your poison) is another thing entirely.

Telling someone who has experienced loss or emotional scarring that they need to 'get over it' or 'see the humor' in this, is nothing more than trying to mask selfishness and immaturity.

In the legislative world, an incident is *always* considered from the eyes of the alleged victim, never from the perpetrator. A rapist might find pleasure or humor in their actions. A rapee experiences emotional and physical pain, detachment, and devaluated self-worth.

Again, and it's a pity this point needs to be stated, much less that there are individuals who think there's a positive side to this: 'jokes' about crimes are highly innappropriate, vile, and in very poor taste. Selfishness and immaturity are better suited for a Friday night stand-up skit by Dane Cook.

One thing the MMO genre could use across the board is common human manners and decency. However, something about the old adege 'common sense isn't so common' seemingly applies here.

Originally posted by narakuu

So whats the problem?

 

You're too easily offended and incapable of just shrugging and moving on? You dont see the dark humor in it? I wouldnt create a character by that name because of the risk of getting my character deleted but if someone else does and I see that person ingame I'll probably go "wth? lol" and then just move on with playing.

Lets get real though, people dont complain about things just because they are slightly offended... oh wait... people dont only consider their own ideals and show no regard to others just because their point of views dont match... oh wait...

Also... please dont try and guilt people by saying something "I'm a victim of -insert here- and find that disgusting" well I'm a victim of this and this and that... I dont ask you or anyone to adjust themselves to my liking, so therefore I reserve the right to myself to not have to adjust to yours.

Last but not least, you can twist the things I have said here like "so you're saying a murderer doesnt have to be stopped?" etc, I simply make a huge gamble by hoping you can read what I've said and use it for constructive thinking rather then just nitpicking my words.

Oh wait... you are a hole.

how can an online game be rated ?

all mmos should all be rated as 18+ unless they have implemented full chat censorship as people can type what they want and say what they want.

if your over 18 and get offended by people with stupid names then dont play.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by narakuu

So whats the problem?

 

You're too easily offended and incapable of just shrugging and moving on? You dont see the dark humor in it? I wouldnt create a character by that name because of the risk of getting my character deleted but if someone else does and I see that person ingame I'll probably go "wth? lol" and then just move on with playing.

Lets get real though, people dont complain about things just because they are slightly offended... oh wait... people dont only consider their own ideals and show no regard to others just because their point of views dont match... oh wait...

Also... please dont try and guilt people by saying something "I'm a victim of -insert here- and find that disgusting" well I'm a victim of this and this and that... I dont ask you or anyone to adjust themselves to my liking, so therefore I reserve the right to myself to not have to adjust to yours.

Last but not least, you can twist the things I have said here like "so you're saying a murderer doesnt have to be stopped?" etc, I simply make a huge gamble by hoping you can read what I've said and use it for constructive thinking rather then just nitpicking my words.

 

Oh wait... you are a hole.

Nah, I'm a male but thats besides the point.