Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...

This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.

How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...

Reanim

Originally posted by CassSmith

All I can say after just reading the first page is OMG!!!!!!!!!!  Yes they're just words but the acts that are represented are illegal!!!  You think its fine to molest a 10 year old?  If you do you have SEVERE problems and shouldnt be allowed near ANY under 18s.  No, saying the word is ok, isnt the same thing as saying being a pedophile is, but its not damn far off the mark.

You just used the word yourself. Clearly you are a criminal.

Yay, I read another lame assed post, congratulations to me.

Having being dumb enough to have actually read this far into this joke before its closed, hows this, Most of you morons should take your own lame advice about "moral policing" and "taking it upon yourselves".

All in all the complaint was someone STILL running around with such a name, idc personally, if you cant stomach it, report it, or walk away. As for some moron naming themselves pedo an such, its a breach or nearly 99% of every ToS any game has. Just report them, and keep reporting them and itll be taken care of, otherwise you end up with knobs like most on the forum here and me giving our 2 cents into the matter, and most of them will give their own craptastic moral policy dictated to you.

For god sakes, shut this thread down, its a joke, just like the rest of us for having read and commented on it.

Originally posted by Reanim

Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...

This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.

How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...

Reanim

 

Someone who is that sensitive (for good reason, no doubt) shouldn't be on such an uncontrolled venue for speech.

We can't (and shouldn't) baby-proof the internet. The harm would be greater than the good done.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Korhindi

 

I don't know, naming oneself after constellations in any game, sci-fi or not seems pretty dumb to me.  I personally hate it when movie characters are named that.  It reeks of no creativity.

I always though that part of the allure of MMO's was my influencing a virtual world through my character.  That begins with the name.

Name lists are not needed to restrain reasonable people.

Why not just assign a number or code .... hexidecimal would work... no getting offended, all players are on equal footing and no legal issues about "coincidental naming."

On a serious note, I am not making up the RL name issue.

In WoW, in 2006, I made a gnome rogue and named him MickDagger.  After two weeks of play, I got a note telling me that the name was not acceptable and I had to change (or the toon would be deleted) because it was too similar to the rock star Mick Jagger.

WoW doesn't delete characters violating the naming conventions - they rename them.

If you had named your character Michealdagger, you might have been just fine. They won't fault you for picking just any schlub's name. It's 'famous' names that are verbotten.

Bull... back then it was change it or be deleted.  Now a days, they do as you describe, and I don't think they even care so much since the threat of such suits has not materialized.

Personally, I have never had problems coming up with names for my toons that fit the game and aren't composed of insults.  Heck, MickDagger was a rare foray into corniness for me, for I usually use names from a language of my own design.

The greater question is why must I be punished because someone lacks creativity, or, in your case, someone's sense of immersion is being violated?

And why not stop at the name.... I mean, I find those migit toons in Aion annoying, so why not simply ditch character creation altogether and only allow 10 presets?  That would kill any chance of ugly, deformed or mishapen toons that can ruin immersion, or stop teen boys from making big breasted women and keep the game politically correct.

Yeps, I see the solution:  Pregenerated  name (or number) + pregenerated character... sounds like total fun to me.

Originally posted by jayfly95

For god sakes, shut this thread down, its a joke, just like the rest of us for having read and commented on it.

God can take care of Himself.

It is the height of hypocracy to contribute to a thread and then call for it to be locked.

If you don't like what's being written - don't read it.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Reanim

Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...

This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.

How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...

Reanim

 

Someone who is that sensitive (for good reason, no doubt) shouldn't be on such an uncontrolled venue for speech.

We can't (and shouldn't) baby-proof the internet. The harm would be greater than the good done.

and this is why games put in their ToS "Game experience may change during online play"  So that asshats like the OP who are too afraid to report someone for an offensive name can come on forums like this and bash the company for not keeping track of 450,000 individual names.... If you are really this sensitive, then stay off the internet.

Agreed, we shouldn't baby proof the net. Ncsoft should police people for offensive names though, Simples!

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Reanim

Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...

This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.

How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...

Reanim

 

Someone who is that sensitive (for good reason, no doubt) shouldn't be on such an uncontrolled venue for speech.

We can't (and shouldn't) baby-proof the internet. The harm would be greater than the good done.

Uncontrolled??? *blink* You ever wonder what the GMs do all day?  Having been one in the past I can tell you that they're dealing with these type of jackasses every second of their day and worse.

Someone here also brought up another good point.  You've heard of violence resulting from games in RL, right?  Ok, what happens if a "pedophile hunter" got hold of this persons details somehow, they could also be targetted.... how would it be to be killed over a joke?

BTW I used the name in context of the thread, the other had no context or purpose other than to stir up a community ; )

and pedophiles (not just the name) are insta deleted and likely reported to the feds..... see the issue here?

Jay - I would report it had I witnessed it myself but unfortunately I havent.  Even though I'm no longer a GM on any game, I do still help them out wherever I can

Originally posted by Reanim

Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...

This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.

How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...

Reanim

 

Well... how do we know you are what you say you are?

For all I know, you could be the guy who named his toon that just to bust on a game you hate (Aion in this case)?

Originally posted by Shari

Agreed, we shouldn't baby proof the net. Ncsoft should police people for offensive names though, Simples!

Of course, 'offensive' is a very subjective matter.

I am as offended by 'xxxArthasxxx' and 'IPwnU' as the original subject of this thread.

Originally posted by Shari

Agreed, we shouldn't baby proof the net. Ncsoft should police people for offensive names though, Simples!

They do have some names listed as forbidden, but that list seems pretty small.

As far as getting a GM to stop bad names, why not kill the gold spammers too?

They use names like,"Dfsghgf" and can easily be found standing outside the newbie towns.  Yet they are not removed.  I have reported some, and two days later they are still there.

Sounds like a toon named Molester or Pedophile is the least of their problems right now.

Read genius, I said I personally dont care and commented on it. Shove the BS about posting because you dont like it blah blah,

its a lame ass circle that continues over and over, you tell me, i tell you an on an on.

Read the games ratings for children, report crap as you see it,

If you have kids, which I do, and still let them play MMO's regardless of the stupidity they may have in them then the rest are right, deal with it yourself, this crap happens, will always happen, and just go report it.

I just tell my kids its some jackass, and nothing more trying to stand out and to ignore them.

thats why theres blists ingame, you wont have to put up with them afterwards

"...Will someone please think of the children!!"

Originally posted by Korhindi

Originally posted by Aceundor

Originally posted by Korhindi

Originally posted by Maelkor

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Korhindi

Originally posted by Shari

Originally posted by lilsteez

Originally posted by Shari 

 

I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong

 

I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.

 

Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?

 

But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?

Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.

 

Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol

 

Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.

 

But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..

anyways..

Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity.  Fare enough.

But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?

What about being gay?

Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them).  For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.

It is all a matter of perspective.

 

What an interresting yet frightening discussion. Its like watching the America presidential elecetion.

Religious Bigots (Republicans) vs Freedom Fanatics (Democrats)

 

 

 

Hehe.... so which one are you?

Neither - I am not American. My world is not made up by blacks and whites, but rather many shades of grey.

Back on topic.

I think its quite simple that a gamining company should not support behaviour that insults other players. However that gaming company should also define what is insulting behaviour. Koreans surely are inisulted by other names than americans. Try calling an Arab muslim for a Dog.... WW3 would break lose. 

Originally posted by Aceundor 

Neither - I am not American. My world is not made up by blacks and whites, but rather many shades of grey.

 

Back on topic.

I think its quite simple that a gamining company should not support behaviour that insults other players. However that gaming company should also define what is insulting behaviour. Koreans surely are inisulted by other names than americans. Try calling an Arab muslim for a Dog.... WW3 would break lose. 

The problem is - you call an Arab a dog, and then the Korean eats him.

lmao o.O

sorry, my bad.

I can't believe anyone is defending the name "pedophile" and "molester". You guys are really fucked up.

Originally posted by altairzq

I can't believe anyone is defending the name "pedophile" and "molester". You guys are really fucked up.

I have read this thread and havent seen anyone defending those names. They are discussing wether or not one should be offended by these names or not. 

Originally posted by Aceundor

Originally posted by altairzq

I can't believe anyone is defending the name "pedophile" and "molester". You guys are really fucked up.

I have read this thread and havent seen anyone defending those names. They are discussing wether or not one should be offended by these names or not. 

FFS

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Originally posted by Reanim
Logged on today to play a bit and found we have some new interesting folks playing. Some low life was running around called Pedophile. Then to top things off I hit the bank and Molestor was there.

This kind off crap would not fly in any mainstream game yet here its kind of the norm. Whats going to happen when some underage kid playing this game is exposed to this and parents find out. Can you say LAW SUIT, BAD PUBLICITY etc...

Spammers, bots, farmers and now low life scum... NCsoft... ITS time to monitor your servers.

Reanim

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Okay I am going to say this bud, for one, it might be a good thing to see these people actually tagged themselves as what we are. Second, you compare this game to game with years on them, this game has weeks on U.S. servers. They slowly have to gain a list of names which are not allowed, just during the head-start some bimbo was running around with the name Jesus yelling, "I am not real, the atheists are right!". A day later Jesus was banned and the name was not allowed for character creation. Just report the dude and stop complaining on the forums and trying to get attention. :P

Originally posted by Korhindi

Originally posted by Shari

Originally posted by lilsteez

Originally posted by Shari 

 

I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong

 

I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.

 

Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?

 

But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?

Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.

Agreed.  This same type of argument came up in the APB forums when somebody brought up adding drugs and prostitution to the game.  It seems people have serious problem with vice but murder and robbery are socially acceptable.

Why doesn't anyone get up in arms when somebody names their character "CrazyKiller"?

Originally posted by dave6660

Agreed.  This same type of argument came up in the APB forums when somebody brought up adding drugs and prostitution to the game.  It seems people have serious problem with vice but murder and robbery are socially acceptable.

Why doesn't anyone get up in arms when somebody names their character "CrazyKiller"?

Because Christians have always been in favour of killing and opposed to drugs (other than alcohol and tobacco) and sex.

America's values are screwed up beyond belief.

Originally posted by lilsteez

Originally posted by Shari 

 

I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong

 

I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.

I wonder where some of you people went to school as children, or...if you're still children and just don't "get it."  WORDS can and do HARM. Talk to any psychologist or psychiatrist if you doubt that. Words can be emotionally abusive and cause incredible destruction to people mentally. Either you've never known anyone that was abused in this way, or you're just ignorant about it entirely, I don't know.

Now I understand what you're saying about the words ALONE "pedophile" and "molestor," but let me give you another scenario.

On one WoW server (mine) there was a guild named "Sapped Girls Cant Say No" and one of the members of said guild was named Babyraper.

Now do you think that is acceptable?

I will tell you this.....the guild and one (maybe more) of the characters in the guild......we're banned for a while (I don't remember how long) and required to change their names before being allowed to return. Personally....I think that's appropriate, as I don't find it any less offensive than naming your character something RACIST or anti-gay, or any other bigoted thing.

It is NOT acceptable to boldly spew hate speech, regardless of what "form" it takes....including guild names, character names, etc. If you're naming a character something TO OFFEND....that is simply, in gamingspeak, GRIEFING, pure and simple.

 

But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..

anyways..

Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity.  Fare enough.

But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?

What about being gay?

Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them).  For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.

It is all a matter of perspective.

 

Wow so the evilness of someone raping an innocent child is now only something you might find questionable. Its all relative stuff. How low can your mind go where you can find it acceptable under any circumstances?

People can quibble over religions or the sexual orientation of adults...but to even say the words that you dont have a problem with someone making light of pedophilia or that someone might not find it objectionable and your o.k. with that really blows my mind. There are things that are simply wrong and to glorify those things is equally wrong. There is a black and a white to go with all the shades of grey.