Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by repz312

People are anti-social in this game, only activity I see is on the forum. I dont see groups or anything running around. I stopped playing at level 30.

Also, there forums make me sick. All I see ate crybaby posts. They cry when posters post they want more pvmp, they cry that they cant put objects freely into the house (that does suck tho), they cry about how hard raids are, they cry about how this game is turning hardcore, or casual, about how they dont have time to play but dont want to be behind those that do play more hours then they do (what?) etc.

Its like the diehard tolkien fans are objecting to everything that is an mmo and want to make this game into a solo player game. If the forum posters get there way, it will be a solo rpg that people get tricked into paying mmo money for.

I didnt want to play a dime for a solo player type of game with an mmo label attached to it, so I left.

 

This is also what I found. No one wanted to say a word to you, it felt entirely like playing a single-player RPG with other people playing a single-player RPG right next to you.

 

Even when I asked for directions they wouldn't even give me a "f*ck off, n00b". They'd rather just ignore you altogether.

Your going to find this in any MMO. Every game has helpful people and those that are not. Try the Landroval RP server. I rarely bump into an ass and only once had to put someone on ignore. People are generally very helpful.

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by repz312

People are anti-social in this game, only activity I see is on the forum. I dont see groups or anything running around. I stopped playing at level 30.

Also, there forums make me sick. All I see ate crybaby posts. They cry when posters post they want more pvmp, they cry that they cant put objects freely into the house (that does suck tho), they cry about how hard raids are, they cry about how this game is turning hardcore, or casual, about how they dont have time to play but dont want to be behind those that do play more hours then they do (what?) etc.

Its like the diehard tolkien fans are objecting to everything that is an mmo and want to make this game into a solo player game. If the forum posters get there way, it will be a solo rpg that people get tricked into paying mmo money for.

I didnt want to play a dime for a solo player type of game with an mmo label attached to it, so I left.

 

This is also what I found. No one wanted to say a word to you, it felt entirely like playing a single-player RPG with other people playing a single-player RPG right next to you.

 

Even when I asked for directions they wouldn't even give me a "f*ck off, n00b". They'd rather just ignore you altogether.

It seems as if there is a core base of players who have been in the game from the start and many of them just want to play the game as it has always been and really don't care for new or returning players playing "their game".  They don't want improvements. They don't want drives to bring in new blood (unless it includes incentives for them). They'd be happy if the game never spent another dime on any sort of advertising, closed the door on new subscriptions and somehow continued along on vapor.

I guess I understand it. They feel they've somehow earned the right to look down on everyone else who hasn't stuck with the game for the long run, with few, if any interruptions. However, they aren't doing the game or the developers any favors by wanting to "keep the game to themselves".

Originally posted by fiontar

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by repz312

People are anti-social in this game, only activity I see is on the forum. I dont see groups or anything running around. I stopped playing at level 30.

Also, there forums make me sick. All I see ate crybaby posts. They cry when posters post they want more pvmp, they cry that they cant put objects freely into the house (that does suck tho), they cry about how hard raids are, they cry about how this game is turning hardcore, or casual, about how they dont have time to play but dont want to be behind those that do play more hours then they do (what?) etc.

Its like the diehard tolkien fans are objecting to everything that is an mmo and want to make this game into a solo player game. If the forum posters get there way, it will be a solo rpg that people get tricked into paying mmo money for.

I didnt want to play a dime for a solo player type of game with an mmo label attached to it, so I left.

 

This is also what I found. No one wanted to say a word to you, it felt entirely like playing a single-player RPG with other people playing a single-player RPG right next to you.

 

Even when I asked for directions they wouldn't even give me a "f*ck off, n00b". They'd rather just ignore you altogether.

 

It seems as if there is a core base of players who have been in the game from the start and many of them just want to play the game as it has always been and really don't care for new or returning players playing "their game".  They don't want improvements. They don't want drives to bring in new blood (unless it includes incentives for them). They'd be happy if the game never spent another dime on any sort of advertising, closed the door on new subscriptions and somehow continued along on vapor.

I guess I understand it. They feel they've somehow earned the right to look down on everyone else who hasn't stuck with the game for the long run, with few, if any interruptions. However, they aren't doing the game or the developers any favors by wanting to "keep the game to themselves".

Honestly, in four months playing this game I have yet to meet someone with this elitist attitude. On the contrary, I know quite a few Founders that are really great people and very helpful.

For the above poster: the only time I felt I was playing an singleplayer game was in the first 15 LVL. It is understandable for two reasons:

First of all, on lower levels one will find lots of trial players, most of which are trying to get the most out of the game to decide if they are gonna subscribe at the end of the 10 days

Furthermore, lower level quests, at least until 15ish are single player quests, so players are not really enticed to seek company.

Things get instantly better in Bree. But the best way to experience the social aspect of the game is the kinship.

Originally posted by fiontar

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by repz312

People are anti-social in this game, only activity I see is on the forum. I dont see groups or anything running around. I stopped playing at level 30.

Also, there forums make me sick. All I see ate crybaby posts. They cry when posters post they want more pvmp, they cry that they cant put objects freely into the house (that does suck tho), they cry about how hard raids are, they cry about how this game is turning hardcore, or casual, about how they dont have time to play but dont want to be behind those that do play more hours then they do (what?) etc.

Its like the diehard tolkien fans are objecting to everything that is an mmo and want to make this game into a solo player game. If the forum posters get there way, it will be a solo rpg that people get tricked into paying mmo money for.

I didnt want to play a dime for a solo player type of game with an mmo label attached to it, so I left.

 

This is also what I found. No one wanted to say a word to you, it felt entirely like playing a single-player RPG with other people playing a single-player RPG right next to you.

 

Even when I asked for directions they wouldn't even give me a "f*ck off, n00b". They'd rather just ignore you altogether.

 

It seems as if there is a core base of players who have been in the game from the start and many of them just want to play the game as it has always been and really don't care for new or returning players playing "their game".  They don't want improvements. They don't want drives to bring in new blood (unless it includes incentives for them). They'd be happy if the game never spent another dime on any sort of advertising, closed the door on new subscriptions and somehow continued along on vapor.

I guess I understand it. They feel they've somehow earned the right to look down on everyone else who hasn't stuck with the game for the long run, with few, if any interruptions. However, they aren't doing the game or the developers any favors by wanting to "keep the game to themselves".

Yup, with a snotty attitude. They bashed down a dude when he was suggesting swimming and flying in the game. Adding how he was dumb for being a level 60 and not reading the tolkien books. How they state "NEVER WILL THEY ADD THIS" as if they were game developers, or had some right. Yeah, they arent morons like the wow community forums, but I rather deal with kids acting like tough guys then snotty grown people hanging tight into geekdom. When I played lotro, it was like moving in with a roommate and my roommate telling me, "dont touch this, dont ask for this from the landlord because i dont want it to happen because i want this apartment staying just like this, I dont care how good the changes might be, I rather live here by myself but I have no choice but to share the room."

Originally posted by grandpagamer

I would point out that LOTRO is a game more for those who enjoy lore and exploration. Its a role players dream.  But if you want to level fast and get into the end game i wouldnt  recomend it.

very well said and I agree cmpletely

I also recommend just doing the deeds you will need for your class, I have leveled 2 characters simply grinding deeds, just doing the minimum quests to acquire the deeds and whatever gear I wanted in that zone. Great way to make money and have he perfect set of deeds  in my opinion and seems to be just as fast if not faster than questing.. But that is only for more experienced players who already have leveled a couple of toons the standard way with questing because LoTRO has a ton of great storyline quests you will miss if you do it the deed grinding  way

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by grandpagamer

I would point out that LOTRO is a game more for those who enjoy lore and exploration. Its a role players dream.  But if you want to level fast and get into the end game i wouldnt  recomend it.

very well said and I agree cmpletely

 

I also recommend just doing the deeds you will need for your class, I have leveled 2 characters simply grinding deeds, just doing the minimum quests to acquire the deeds and whatever gear I wanted in that zone. Great way to make money and have he perfect set of deeds  in my opinion and seems to be just as fast if not faster than questing.. But that is only for more experienced players who already have leveled a couple of toons the standard way with questing because LoTRO has a ton of great storyline quests you will miss if you do it the deed grinding  way

You're describing a single-person RPG played alongside other players.

Which is fine, but folks should stop pretending there is much of a social aspect to this game.

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by grandpagamer

I would point out that LOTRO is a game more for those who enjoy lore and exploration. Its a role players dream.  But if you want to level fast and get into the end game i wouldnt  recomend it.

very well said and I agree cmpletely

 

I also recommend just doing the deeds you will need for your class, I have leveled 2 characters simply grinding deeds, just doing the minimum quests to acquire the deeds and whatever gear I wanted in that zone. Great way to make money and have he perfect set of deeds  in my opinion and seems to be just as fast if not faster than questing.. But that is only for more experienced players who already have leveled a couple of toons the standard way with questing because LoTRO has a ton of great storyline quests you will miss if you do it the deed grinding  way

 

You're describing a single-person RPG played alongside other players.

Which is fine, but folks should stop pretending there is much of a social aspect to this game.

I'm not only pretending. I'm even socializing, mind you. There are simply different styles to play LOTRO. You can solo it to the endgame, or do grouping or both as in my case (and probably the majority of players)

Other than a 6 month break between book 10 and book 14, I have played this game since open beta. 

As to not being able to find people to group with, that is dependent on the server population.  For example, Brandywine is (reputedly) the heaviest populated server, and I played there for about a year.  Landroval is the unoffical RP server and from posts I see there is a healthy population there.  I currently play on Elendilmir, and with a solid minority of players from Aus/NZ, there are people to group with virtually around the clock.    Those 3 are your best bets for finding a healthy server population, and, therefore, more people to group with.  I can state from current personal experience on Elendilmir that there are often groups looking for people for the lower level dungeons such as Garth Agarwen and Fornost. 

As to whether the population is elitist or not, it is my opinion that the people who play LotRO are, collectively, the most mature group of players of any game I've played. (LotRO, Guild Wars, Age of Conan (one month), Chronicles of Spellborn (one month), City of Heroes/Villains).  While you will find asshats in any game, in LotRO they are quickly put on ignore.

So, I hope you enjoy your current stay in LotRO, and if you roll on Elendilmir, send a tell to Abagadol.