Dana, is the only way you get people to view / reply to your articles to type stupid or controversial things? Really, Club Penguin? Guild Wars isn't even an MMO.

In my opinio this list is absolutely rigth i alredy played WOW,WAR,LOTRO,ROM and now Aion

From this 5 games the one that i enjoyed more playing was Lotro but by far... the only reason im playing aion now is that in my country, you can only find, time cards in 1 mall because the others like (fnac ex.) only care about wow timecards xD

So all im saying is that i played all this 5 and i loved  by far lotro.

P.S: LOTRO 10-days-trial is realy different from the retail vers. and if you donwloaded the shortest trial, it's even more different ... so don't ilude your self...

Thanks =D

Originally posted by Dawnsinger

Dana, is the only way you get people to view / reply to your articles to type stupid or controversial things? Really, Club Penguin? Guild Wars isn't even an MMO.

You read and replied, you tell me? :P

Originally posted by erictlewis

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by Ashenkhar

Originally posted by erictlewis

It boggles my mind each time I see LOTRO on any list.  Why you ask, well they continually take a dump on their customer base. You should see the forums. 

 

I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.

As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.

Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok.

I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuously offer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".

 

 

More free content surely you jest.  The only content we gotten lately that was really free was the hampster wheel of death repeatable bounty quests.  The rest was suposed to be delivered with MOM.  The rest we have to buy with the adventure pac, no free in that.

No, I don't jest. I guess all the free content and books over the past two years don't count. Please... This dosnt even count the upcoming book 3, that is free.

The list is a bit odd because of how broad the selection was.  Some of those titles (the kiddie ones) just shouldn't be judged together with the others or it jeopardizes the validity of the article (opinion or not).  It's a bit like listing the top 10 music releases in the last 10 years and including "artists" like Teletubbies and Barney.  At the very least you should have broken it up into two parts, one for the kiddie games and another for the more mature games.

But anyway... good read.  Not great, but good.  I give it a C+.

Originally posted by Sixpax

The list is a bit odd because of how broad the selection was.  Some of those titles (the kiddie ones) just shouldn't be judged together with the others or it jeopardizes the validity of the article (opinion or not).  It's a bit like listing the top 10 music releases in the last 10 years and including "artists" like Teletubbies and Barney.  At the very least you should have broken it up into two parts, one for the kiddie games and another for the more mature games.

But anyway... good read.  Not great, but good.  I give it a C+.

LOL Well said....

i must be the only one who doesnt like wow.

Good list! I do think AOC deserved the bottom listing over Vanguard, as AOC offered top-rate graphics, a mature setting, and an interesting combat system. In other words, AOC seems to be far more original in its design than Vanguard, and also far more commercially successful.

WAR should have gotten an "honorable mention" for its initial success and for trying to bring forward the Realm vs Realm concept.

One final question: how come Fallen Earth made the list over Champions Online? If you were judging new MMOs that go in a different direction from fantasy, I think Champions perfectly captures the whole superhero motif. Sure, it's got some balance and performance problems, but I'm hearing the same from Fallen Earth.

Finally, I want to give Dana kudos for considering games that the hardcore MMO scene doesn't give enough credit to, like Maple Story and Guild Wars.

From that top the only games that deserve to be there is LOTRO and Vanguard !It's my opinion.

 I am sorry but there is a much better list here of the Top 10 MMORPGs and it includes gameplay videos of each of the 10 top mmorpgs as well.

 
Club penguin is one of the most successful MMO's of all time. Again, the responses here just show how jaded, and simply uninformed the experts  Forum users here on the MMORPG forums are. The game may not be fore you, however that means jack shit to its success or popularity.
 
Learn to distinguish the two.

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Originally posted by bombmaster2

 

I am sorry but there is a much better list here of the Top 10 MMORPGs and it includes gameplay videos of each of the 10 top mmorpgs as well.

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Its a good thing this wasn't a top ten list then.
 

I'm sorry, but this is a complete sham.  Okay, not completely, but there are perhaps only a couple games from this list that actually deserved it.  Lord of the Rings and Aion, and most certainly Guild Wars.  Those three are excellent choices.  However, can we look at the rest of them for a moment?  Keep in mind, these are my opinions.  Not a personal attack.

Vanguard might deserve this spot only because it miraculously managed to rise from the ashes after an abyssmal launch to actually be able to draw enough subscriptions not to have to shut it down.  Definately a fence choice.

Fallen Earth was released fairly recently and does not deserve making this list.  I'm sorry, but shoving newly released titles into a top ten of the WoW era is downright disrespectful to the other games that have launched and succeeded.  Bad choice.  Disrespectful.  I whole-heartedly disagree.  Picked primarily because no one has made a post-apocalypctic MMO.

Atlantica Online is a FTP that isn't even king of the FTP.  While I admittedly do not know much about this game, I'll say this - There is a reason I don't know much about this game.  I'm not saying this was a bad game, nor am I saying that it wasn't successful for what it is.  What I am saying though, is that with games such as Age of Conan, Warhammer, Dungeons & Dragons and Everquest 2(They launched around the same time).. this is a real tough title to add to this list.

Pirates of the Burning Sea was a launch failure according to what I've read and testimonials from my friends, although opinions are just that.  It has had nowhere near the success nor was it the quality of the afor mentioned titles.  I have a feeling you picked this for the list simply because it wasn't attempted successfully in the past.  And it's success is up for debate.  Again.

Maplestory actually isn't such a bad choice.  A lot of people are playing it or have played it in the past.  It's free.  I guess I actually do agree on this one.  Maybe not it's position, but you could do worse.  And you have..

Aion has just recently been released.  But, the overall quality of it is tremendous.  That cannot be denied.  If it weren't for the anti-western market appeal, this game could have quickly challenged the top spot... and still might just do that. 

Club Penguin is a childrens game.  It is a social networking device.  It is NOT a real MMO.  Sure, they've made money off of millions of idiotic parents across the world.  To each his/her own.  While the massive success of this is hard to dismiss.. this should have not made the list.  You've admittedly claimed that monetary success was not the primary factor in your selections.  What was the factor here?  Did you have fun playing this game with a bunch of 6 year olds?  Did you marvel over the design or technological achievements?  I'll answer this for you, and I think I'm going to hear thousands of echoes as I type this out from the rest of the readers.  NO!  Not that I'm anyone important, but you lost a lot of credibility with that selection.

Wizards 101 follows up the worst selection ever.  Are you really saying that Wizards 101 beat out the likes of Warhammer?  Age of Conan?  If you are, well.. I won't go on, because I said I wouldn't attack you as a person.  One does have to ponder your thought process here.  You want an IT game from indy circles?  Try Eve Online.  I know it was released prior to WoW, but seriously, how many kids actually play Wizards?  Even 8 year olds play WoW now.  A dying game gets the #3 slot no less!  Warhammer should have gotten this spot.

The #1 and 2 selections are spot on.  Guild Wars is a great game in it's own right, and to tack on the fact that its FTP.  You can't get much better.  Lord of the Rings will have subscribers until the game servers are shut down 20 years from now.  Or unless Lord of the Rings 2 is released.  It's unfortunate because there are several games that don't get recognition because they were released a few weeks to a few months before WoW, but have managed to survive the WoW era and prosper.  And then there are the obvious AAA games that get left out to garbage that wouldn't be on my top 50 to play list.

However, this is all my opinion.  Agree or not.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

Club penguin is one of the most successful MMO's of all time. Again, the responses here just show how jaded, and simply uninformed the experts  Forum users here on the MMORPG forums are. The game may not be fore you, however that means jack shit to its success or popularity.

 

Learn to distinguish the two.

 

The fact the almost no one has heard of this game in modern MMO circles proves that it shouldn't be here.  I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't successful.  But it is a childrens networking device.  Not a real MMO.  Very few on this site even care about it and most of the very few will never play it.  It does not deserve to be on the list.  Most of the people who play it probably are completely unaware of this site or most of the other games out there. 

You might get a nose bleed way up on that mountain, I'd suggest you come down.

Originally posted by toria

i must be the only one who doesnt like wow.

You are not alone.  In fact, a lot of people who play WoW don't like it.  There's just nothing out there that piques their interest enough to leave..

Brainwashing I say!

LOTRO #1? Come on now....LoL.

Originally posted by DAS1337

The #1 and 2 selections are spot on.  Guild Wars is a great game in it's own right, and to tack on the fact that its FTP.  You can't get much better.  Lord of the Rings will have subscribers until the game servers are shut down 20 years from now.  Or unless Lord of the Rings 2 is released.  It's unfortunate because there are several games that don't get recognition because they were released a few weeks to a few months before WoW, but have managed to survive the WoW era and prosper.  And then there are the obvious AAA games that get left out to garbage that wouldn't be on my top 50 to play list.

 

However, this is all my opinion.  Agree or not.

As many have pointed out, I was not writing the Top 10 AAA Hardcore MMOs Launched Since WoW.

That is a fine article and maybe one I will write some day, but this was Top 10 MMOs since WoW, which is different. Club Penguin, for example, obviously doesn't appeal to you (or me), but that doesn't mean it's not a huge hit or a great game.

If I were going for Hardcore MMOs since WoW, yes, I'd have included WAR, Conan, and, heck, even Darkfall.

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

Club penguin is one of the most successful MMO's of all time. Again, the responses here just show how jaded, and simply uninformed the experts  Forum users here on the MMORPG forums are. The game may not be fore you, however that means jack shit to its success or popularity.

 

Learn to distinguish the two.

 

 

The fact the almost no one has heard of this game in modern MMO circles proves that it shouldn't be here.

This, again, is your own ignorance. That does not make it fact. Sorry. It has over 12 million accounts, and is in every way a MMO.

It is just not YOU'RE personal definition of one, however it is a MMO by all industry standards. Again, as i stated before, the people on this site are clueless, as evidenced by the responses. Somehow, you think MMORPG.com is the center of the MMO world, and is the heart of it?

Who is on a mountain now?

What a retarded list of games you guys have here.

 Even though I don't agree with the direction LotRO has taken, I agree that it's a very well done game.  I wish they weren't making it more WoW like (6 man instance grinds, gear grinds, rep grinds, craft grinds).  But, what can you do....?

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

Club penguin is one of the most successful MMO's of all time. Again, the responses here just show how jaded, and simply uninformed the experts  Forum users here on the MMORPG forums are. The game may not be fore you, however that means jack shit to its success or popularity.

 

Learn to distinguish the two.

 

 

The fact the almost no one has heard of this game in modern MMO circles proves that it shouldn't be here.

 

 

 

This, again, is your own ignorance. That does not make it fact. Sorry. It has over 12 million accounts, and is in every way a MMO.

 

It is just not YOU'RE personal definition of one, however it is a MMO by all industry standards. Again, as i stated before, the people on this site are clueless, as evidenced by the responses. Somehow, you think MMORPG.com is the center of the MMO world, and is the heart of it?

Who is on a mountain now?

 

 

 

The King of the world has spoken!! LOL

Originally posted by Zorndorf

The list shows ... something.:

You have Blizzard's WOW and then you have a BIG Hole: something like:

1. Blizzard's WOW

 

 

 

 

... EVE (out of competition apparently). But still multiple relaunches AFTER WOW. (the last one 3 months ago as a box sale in shops).

 

 

2. The rest or ....the battle for ....  the peanuts. And please present day Aion players do know the western launching  400 K Aion numbers will dissapear as snow for the sun when the subscription period will set in. The initial players will leave faster than you can type the word "subscription" (as always).

 

God, I hope you're right!

I'm praying it's all of the @$$hats that are currently plaguing this game, like a nasty virus that comes and goes.

 

This was a well-written article by all accounts, and the author clearly indicated this is their opinion. My sole complaint is they did not clarify the criteria of what "Top" means. Was the definition to mean "best", "most popular", "most fun", "highest population", "highest revenue grossing", etc etc. However, I found the diversity of games covered refreshing (from AAA to web-based to Free-to-Play games).

Those of you spending time arguing in the forum thread are doing exactly what the author wanted: generating discussion and additional forum posts (looks great for justifying ad-space costs based on volume of web traffic and posts) in a clearly subjective topic.

Originally posted by mrw0lf

 

 

i think the interwebs would have exploded from troll if he included wither WAR or AoC in the list. A fair few cities would have been taken out from combusted nerdrage aswell, it just wouldn't have been worth it.

LMAO!

Very good list, and well researched Dana.

LOTRO deserves that #1 spot. It is an excellent game. I was sorry not to see EVE Online on the list, but then I remembered the point of the list "post-WoW" :)

/agree

Originally posted by bombmaster2

 I am sorry but there is a much better list here of the Top 10 MMORPGs and it includes gameplay videos of each of the 10 top mmorpgs as well.

I'm sorry but any list that doesn't include LOTRO is pure fail.  Some people might not like LOTRO but you can not deny it is one of the best MMO's on the market.  It has the highest average review score since WoW released.  It has won many awards from various gaming outlets.  It is the highest praised game in the gaming media since WoW.  You might like another MMO and that's fine but LOTRO is widely regarded as successful and a good game for a reason. 

Personally I dislike WoW.  I tried it and didn't like the cartoony graphics.  But I understand that millions of people like the gameplay.  It has 2.5 million subs in the United States for a reason.  It is also heralded by the media for a reason.  I might not like the game but that doesn't make it a bad game.  It just means it's not the game for me.  Same thing applies for LOTRO or any game.  There will be people that enjoy it despite what other's say.  We all have our own opinions but you can't argue with review scores and media opinion.  You might not like LOTRO but that doesn't mean it's a bad game.