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useful list. |
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Originally posted by Frostbite05
rofl that was like 500k max im sure most of em reached that already
Other than the F2P you'd be wrong. Funny, that you think LOTRO has that many when its a ghost town. |
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Originally posted by beowulfhuntr
can't really say that even though gw isn't an mmorpg it still has a larger player base than lotro. |
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Are YOU kidding????? Where the f... is Age of Conan? And seriously i didn't even hear half of the games on this list!! If you made the list just to wake up the discussion you made it! |
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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok. I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuously offer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".
More free content surely you jest. The only content we gotten lately that was really free was the hampster wheel of death repeatable bounty quests. The rest was suposed to be delivered with MOM. The rest we have to buy with the adventure pac, no free in that. |
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Dana, is the only way you get people to view / reply to your articles to type stupid or controversial things? Really, Club Penguin? Guild Wars isn't even an MMO. http://www.havenandhearth.com |
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In my opinio this list is absolutely rigth i alredy played WOW,WAR,LOTRO,ROM and now Aion From this 5 games the one that i enjoyed more playing was Lotro but by far... the only reason im playing aion now is that in my country, you can only find, time cards in 1 mall because the others like (fnac ex.) only care about wow timecards xD So all im saying is that i played all this 5 and i loved by far lotro. P.S: LOTRO 10-days-trial is realy different from the retail vers. and if you donwloaded the shortest trial, it's even more different ... so don't ilude your self... Thanks =D |
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Originally posted by Dawnsinger
You read and replied, you tell me? :P |
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Originally posted by erictlewis Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok. I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuously offer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".
More free content surely you jest. The only content we gotten lately that was really free was the hampster wheel of death repeatable bounty quests. The rest was suposed to be delivered with MOM. The rest we have to buy with the adventure pac, no free in that. No, I don't jest. I guess all the free content and books over the past two years don't count. Please... This dosnt even count the upcoming book 3, that is free.
---------- "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123 "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features. How are you?" -Me |
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The list is a bit odd because of how broad the selection was. Some of those titles (the kiddie ones) just shouldn't be judged together with the others or it jeopardizes the validity of the article (opinion or not). It's a bit like listing the top 10 music releases in the last 10 years and including "artists" like Teletubbies and Barney. At the very least you should have broken it up into two parts, one for the kiddie games and another for the more mature games. But anyway... good read. Not great, but good. I give it a C+. MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people. |
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Originally posted by Sixpax
LOL Well said.... |
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i must be the only one who doesnt like wow. Playing daoc and loving it totally.. |
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Good list! I do think AOC deserved the bottom listing over Vanguard, as AOC offered top-rate graphics, a mature setting, and an interesting combat system. In other words, AOC seems to be far more original in its design than Vanguard, and also far more commercially successful. WAR should have gotten an "honorable mention" for its initial success and for trying to bring forward the Realm vs Realm concept. One final question: how come Fallen Earth made the list over Champions Online? If you were judging new MMOs that go in a different direction from fantasy, I think Champions perfectly captures the whole superhero motif. Sure, it's got some balance and performance problems, but I'm hearing the same from Fallen Earth. Finally, I want to give Dana kudos for considering games that the hardcore MMO scene doesn't give enough credit to, like Maple Story and Guild Wars. |
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Galaxo
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Joined: 3/08/08
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. |
From that top the only games that deserve to be there is LOTRO and Vanguard !It's my opinion. 
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I am sorry but there is a much better list here of the Top 10 MMORPGs and it includes gameplay videos of each of the 10 top mmorpgs as well. |
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Its a good thing this wasn't a top ten list then. ---------- "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123 "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features. How are you?" -Me |
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I'm sorry, but this is a complete sham. Okay, not completely, but there are perhaps only a couple games from this list that actually deserved it. Lord of the Rings and Aion, and most certainly Guild Wars. Those three are excellent choices. However, can we look at the rest of them for a moment? Keep in mind, these are my opinions. Not a personal attack.
Vanguard might deserve this spot only because it miraculously managed to rise from the ashes after an abyssmal launch to actually be able to draw enough subscriptions not to have to shut it down. Definately a fence choice.
Fallen Earth was released fairly recently and does not deserve making this list. I'm sorry, but shoving newly released titles into a top ten of the WoW era is downright disrespectful to the other games that have launched and succeeded. Bad choice. Disrespectful. I whole-heartedly disagree. Picked primarily because no one has made a post-apocalypctic MMO.
Atlantica Online is a FTP that isn't even king of the FTP. While I admittedly do not know much about this game, I'll say this - There is a reason I don't know much about this game. I'm not saying this was a bad game, nor am I saying that it wasn't successful for what it is. What I am saying though, is that with games such as Age of Conan, Warhammer, Dungeons & Dragons and Everquest 2(They launched around the same time).. this is a real tough title to add to this list.
Pirates of the Burning Sea was a launch failure according to what I've read and testimonials from my friends, although opinions are just that. It has had nowhere near the success nor was it the quality of the afor mentioned titles. I have a feeling you picked this for the list simply because it wasn't attempted successfully in the past. And it's success is up for debate. Again.
Maplestory actually isn't such a bad choice. A lot of people are playing it or have played it in the past. It's free. I guess I actually do agree on this one. Maybe not it's position, but you could do worse. And you have..
Aion has just recently been released. But, the overall quality of it is tremendous. That cannot be denied. If it weren't for the anti-western market appeal, this game could have quickly challenged the top spot... and still might just do that.
Club Penguin is a childrens game. It is a social networking device. It is NOT a real MMO. Sure, they've made money off of millions of idiotic parents across the world. To each his/her own. While the massive success of this is hard to dismiss.. this should have not made the list. You've admittedly claimed that monetary success was not the primary factor in your selections. What was the factor here? Did you have fun playing this game with a bunch of 6 year olds? Did you marvel over the design or technological achievements? I'll answer this for you, and I think I'm going to hear thousands of echoes as I type this out from the rest of the readers. NO! Not that I'm anyone important, but you lost a lot of credibility with that selection.
Wizards 101 follows up the worst selection ever. Are you really saying that Wizards 101 beat out the likes of Warhammer? Age of Conan? If you are, well.. I won't go on, because I said I wouldn't attack you as a person. One does have to ponder your thought process here. You want an IT game from indy circles? Try Eve Online. I know it was released prior to WoW, but seriously, how many kids actually play Wizards? Even 8 year olds play WoW now. A dying game gets the #3 slot no less! Warhammer should have gotten this spot.
The #1 and 2 selections are spot on. Guild Wars is a great game in it's own right, and to tack on the fact that its FTP. You can't get much better. Lord of the Rings will have subscribers until the game servers are shut down 20 years from now. Or unless Lord of the Rings 2 is released. It's unfortunate because there are several games that don't get recognition because they were released a few weeks to a few months before WoW, but have managed to survive the WoW era and prosper. And then there are the obvious AAA games that get left out to garbage that wouldn't be on my top 50 to play list.
However, this is all my opinion. Agree or not. |
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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
The fact the almost no one has heard of this game in modern MMO circles proves that it shouldn't be here. I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't successful. But it is a childrens networking device. Not a real MMO. Very few on this site even care about it and most of the very few will never play it. It does not deserve to be on the list. Most of the people who play it probably are completely unaware of this site or most of the other games out there.
You might get a nose bleed way up on that mountain, I'd suggest you come down. |
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Originally posted by toria
You are not alone. In fact, a lot of people who play WoW don't like it. There's just nothing out there that piques their interest enough to leave..
Brainwashing I say! |
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LOTRO #1? Come on now....LoL. "Kings of typos" ^^ EDIT: typo... AKA "Hater of haters" |
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Originally posted by DAS1337
As many have pointed out, I was not writing the Top 10 AAA Hardcore MMOs Launched Since WoW. That is a fine article and maybe one I will write some day, but this was Top 10 MMOs since WoW, which is different. Club Penguin, for example, obviously doesn't appeal to you (or me), but that doesn't mean it's not a huge hit or a great game. If I were going for Hardcore MMOs since WoW, yes, I'd have included WAR, Conan, and, heck, even Darkfall. |
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Originally posted by DAS1337
The fact the almost no one has heard of this game in modern MMO circles proves that it shouldn't be here.
This, again, is your own ignorance. That does not make it fact. Sorry. It has over 12 million accounts, and is in every way a MMO.
It is just not YOU'RE personal definition of one, however it is a MMO by all industry standards. Again, as i stated before, the people on this site are clueless, as evidenced by the responses. Somehow, you think MMORPG.com is the center of the MMO world, and is the heart of it? Who is on a mountain now?
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What a retarded list of games you guys have here. 
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Even though I don't agree with the direction LotRO has taken, I agree that it's a very well done game. I wish they weren't making it more WoW like (6 man instance grinds, gear grinds, rep grinds, craft grinds). But, what can you do....? |
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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
This, again, is your own ignorance. That does not make it fact. Sorry. It has over 12 million accounts, and is in every way a MMO.
It is just not YOU'RE personal definition of one, however it is a MMO by all industry standards. Again, as i stated before, the people on this site are clueless, as evidenced by the responses. Somehow, you think MMORPG.com is the center of the MMO world, and is the heart of it? Who is on a mountain now?
The King of the world has spoken!! LOL "Kings of typos" ^^ EDIT: typo... AKA "Hater of haters" |
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