Originally posted by Perfection66

Originally posted by Crashloop

Originally posted by Perfection66

Nice review didnt even make into the Abyss lol

Look at Xfire.com for the real stats

 

The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing. ;)

We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.

 

And AoC never had 3.5 million subs in Asia after a year did they?

Keep trying, your arguments hold no merit without any real facts. Xfire.com ----> humble pie, tasty? :)

 

;)

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Perfection66

 You get a very good blue item at the end of that quest. If you want every decent item gift wrapped into your lap like WoW you probably wont like Aion.

 

Yeah, because running around in a big circle killing the same mobs, grinding the same item is just oh-so-much more hardcore and different than grinding out honor in a BG...amiright?

Actually you fail because if that's your summary of Aion then you obviously don't play the game.  Spend some time in the Abyss and you'll understand what makes it oh-so-much more hardcore than some ridiculous BG.

Originally posted by tanoril

Originally posted by ronan32

how can you take that review seriously with a statement like this:

"Because of the relatively short amount of time I've had with Aion, and, to be honest, a general apathy toward playing any further, I've not yet experienced the so-called "PvPvE"

 

I actually get what the reviewer is referring to.  For some people (myself included), it just wasn't worth going through 25 levels to get to the so called 'meat' of the game when the beginning was boring.  When you're playing the game and the only reason you're still trudging through is because everyone says it gets better, that can't be very fun.

grats you get to play wow

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Originally posted by tanoril

Originally posted by ronan32

how can you take that review seriously with a statement like this:

"Because of the relatively short amount of time I've had with Aion, and, to be honest, a general apathy toward playing any further, I've not yet experienced the so-called "PvPvE"

 

I actually get what the reviewer is referring to.  For some people (myself included), it just wasn't worth going through 25 levels to get to the so called 'meat' of the game when the beginning was boring.  When you're playing the game and the only reason you're still trudging through is because everyone says it gets better, that can't be very fun.

Sorry but I wouldn't expect a review like that say on gamespot, a review that the OP linked would be normal if it was posted here or some similar site.

The gms/moderator here did a better review of aion then ign and for me it's not a site as popular as gamespot,ecc.

i got to agree here they tend to stay more neutral and sometime gamer see both side of the fence 

but hel 1up acting like that 

have they figured out that mmorpg style is more popular and decided to change 

beats me but i ll still stick to mmorpg

Originally posted by tsukts

Well 25+ you get to do instances too, im lvl 36 and enjoy it to the max still:D

1 reason, cause it's not easy like WoW

How so?

Please, someone, for the love of <whatever>, tell me how Aion is harder than WoW. 

Seriously, come on.  What, because some opposite-colored little angels might come floaty-gliding in and attack you at random intervals...or what?  Or is it harder because you have to gather more worthless shit?  Harder because you have to grind more mobs?

What is hard about any of that?  The game is on rails, tells you basically go here, here or here, leads you to quest mobs via the quest log, has built-in coordinates so you know exactly where to go, has a laughable combo system that practically does all the work for you, has an auto-follow thing that even runs up to the target...explain how any of that is any harder than what you get in WoW?

I will not bother reading this article, but wtf.. i'm lvl 35 and still haven't saw any grind at all.

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by tsukts

Well 25+ you get to do instances too, im lvl 36 and enjoy it to the max still:D

1 reason, cause it's not easy like WoW

 

How so?

Please, someone, for the love of <whatever>, tell me how Aion is harder than WoW. 

Seriously, come on.  What, because some opposite-colored little angels might come floaty-gliding in and attack you at random intervals...or what?  Or is it harder because you have to gather more worthless shit?  Harder because you have to grind more mobs?

What is hard about any of that?  The game is on rails, tells you basically go here, here or here, leads you to quest mobs via the quest log, has built-in coordinates so you know exactly where to go, has a laughable combo system that practically does all the work for you, has an auto-follow thing that even runs up to the target...explain how any of that is any harder than what you get in WoW?

You re right it s not. It s the, as many threads have been popping up have been saying, it s boring. That alone makes it feel harder and grindier then WOW.
 

Theres no point of defending a game, people are going to hate on something regardless of what you say.

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Perfection66

 You get a very good blue item at the end of that quest. If you want every decent item gift wrapped into your lap like WoW you probably wont like Aion.

 

Yeah, because running around in a big circle killing the same mobs, grinding the same item is just oh-so-much more hardcore and different than grinding out honor in a BG...amiright?

 

Actually you fail because if that's your summary of Aion then you obviously don't play the game.  Spend some time in the Abyss and you'll understand what makes it oh-so-much more hardcore than some ridiculous BG.

Your right, I don't play Aion.  I haven't played it since about a week after release, when I saw 1.) the game was garbage, and 2.) the people playing it were basically all the 14-year old Naruto-loving retards from WoW, all penned up in one game. 

No thanks.

Originally posted by tanoril

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Just this one line from the last paragraph says it all about this reviewer:

then what hope is there for your average World of Warcraft subscriber.

If he wanted to be taken with any seriousness then he shouldn't have added that line.

It just goes to show how lazy some have become these's days.

 

I think with any MMO these days, it's success is based on how many subscribers it can get.  In order to compete with WoW (if that's the intent and I think all these games are trying to do that in some form), you need to draw some of it's playerbase away from WoW and into your game.  A developer sees that 3.5 million number of NA subscribers and wants some of that pie. 

 

mm all server in all area of the world are all full,ALL BUT AMERICA.but then scsoft isnt probably surprised since america 

only play american made game ,the one gamer that go to other country mmo count prob for a total of 10% of the whole gaming comunity in america and most of those 10 % are from canada i bet most game made outside america could just release in canada  and not bother with usa and it would have the number aion is getting the whole america 

i bet soon an asian mmo maker will soon release them server in canada instead of usa 

yes on paper america sound nice but usa mostly play usa made mmo i d say probably 2 % in usa play mmo made outside usa

and im generous because nyumber are way lower then that .

gaming in usa is big only where the get freeze like ny,nj,vt,wi etc etc 

and out of those only a very few play mmo made outside america 

silly hell yes !what can we do its like that 

why you think all major gaming studio go in montreal and toronto instead of usa 

here we all know why ,that where the money is .

ea is here ubisoft is here etc etc etc and if they need techno sent like server you never get the bogus level3 fight you get in usa 

i wish world mmo maker would just skip usa and just install everything in canada instead 

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by tsukts

Well 25+ you get to do instances too, im lvl 36 and enjoy it to the max still:D

1 reason, cause it's not easy like WoW

 

How so?

Please, someone, for the love of <whatever>, tell me how Aion is harder than WoW. 

Seriously, come on.  What, because some opposite-colored little angels might come floaty-gliding in and attack you at random intervals...or what?  Or is it harder because you have to gather more worthless shit?  Harder because you have to grind more mobs?

What is hard about any of that?  The game is on rails, tells you basically go here, here or here, leads you to quest mobs via the quest log, has built-in coordinates so you know exactly where to go, has a laughable combo system that practically does all the work for you, has an auto-follow thing that even runs up to the target...explain how any of that is any harder than what you get in WoW?

There is no difficulty in any MMO released to date.  A 'hardcore' person equates to someone who spends too much time playing a game.

A question for you Mr. Eben, why are you even here?  All you do is troll the Aion boards day in and day out.  Do you stalk an ex-girlfriend and trash her in front of everyone that cares to listen because you feel she wronged you?  I am pretty sure if you were to talk to a head shrink they would tell you this kind of obsessiveness is not healthy.  However, carry on, the longer you troll the fewer people will take any credence in what you say.

Originally posted by drbaltazar

mm all server in all area of the world are all full,ALL BUT AMERICA.but then scsoft isnt probably surprised since america 

only play american made game ,the one gamer that go to other country mmo count prob for a total of 10% of the whole gaming comunity in america and most of those 10 % are from canada i bet most game made outside america could just release in canada  and not bother with usa and it would have the number aion is getting the whole america 

i bet soon an asian mmo maker will soon release them server in canada instead of usa 

yes on paper america sound nice but usa mostly play usa made mmo i d say probably 2 % in usa play mmo made outside usa

and im generous because nyumber are way lower then that .

gaming in usa is big only where the get freeze like ny,nj,vt,wi etc etc 

and out of those only a very few play mmo made outside america 

silly hell yes !what can we do its like that 

why you think all major gaming studio go in montreal and toronto instead of usa 

here we all know why ,that where the money is .

ea is here ubisoft is here etc etc etc and if they need techno sent like server you never get the bogus level3 fight you get in usa 

i wish world mmo maker would just skip usa and just install everything in canada instead 

 

What.  The.  Hell?

C is correct but  it won't stop the diehard fans from saying how wonderful and innovative it is. It just goes to show that not all of us look through those rose-colored glasses when it comes to reviews.

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by drbaltazar

mm all server in all area of the world are all full,ALL BUT AMERICA.but then scsoft isnt probably surprised since america 

only play american made game ,the one gamer that go to other country mmo count prob for a total of 10% of the whole gaming comunity in america and most of those 10 % are from canada i bet most game made outside america could just release in canada  and not bother with usa and it would have the number aion is getting the whole america 

i bet soon an asian mmo maker will soon release them server in canada instead of usa 

yes on paper america sound nice but usa mostly play usa made mmo i d say probably 2 % in usa play mmo made outside usa

and im generous because nyumber are way lower then that .

gaming in usa is big only where the get freeze like ny,nj,vt,wi etc etc 

and out of those only a very few play mmo made outside america 

silly hell yes !what can we do its like that 

why you think all major gaming studio go in montreal and toronto instead of usa 

here we all know why ,that where the money is .

ea is here ubisoft is here etc etc etc and if they need techno sent like server you never get the bogus level3 fight you get in usa 

i wish world mmo maker would just skip usa and just install everything in canada instead 

 

 

What.  The.  Hell?

Ya seriously, I m Canadian and i m still like wtf??
 

Originally posted by Locklain

There is no difficulty in any MMO released to date.  A 'hardcore' person equates to someone who spends too much time playing a game.

A question for you Mr. Eben, why are you even here?  All you do is troll the Aion boards day in and day out.  Do you stalk an ex-girlfriend and trash her in front of everyone that cares to listen because you feel she wronged you?  I am pretty sure if you were to talk to a head shrink they would tell you this kind of obsessiveness is not healthy.  However, carry on, the longer you troll the fewer people will take any credence in what you say.

For every one fanboy that cries, two more tell me I'm right. 

Rather telling that you equate a video game to a girlfriend.  Maybe projecting a bit? 

Originally posted by Sovrath

Well, I just saw this thread and the review and it boggles the mind.

And as fond as I am of my gnome warlock, the slender, angelic beauties that inhabit Aion's shattered world are a welcome sight.

Because of the relatively short amount of time I've had with Aion, and, to be honest, a general apathy toward playing any further, I've not yet experienced the so-called "PvPvE" endgame that lies in the central Abyss zone. It sounds like a genuinely fascinating mix of competitive multiplayer and co-operative raid content, and if the game hadn't bored me to tears at such an early stage, then I might have gone on to enjoy it. But if even I can't be motivated to reach the level cap -- and I'm being paid to play this game  then what hope is there for your average World of Warcraft subscriber?

 

So a WoW fan who is used to the easy leveling of WoW has issues with Aion's leveling? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't go back to certain areas to find that there are quests that had become available once they levelled.

I think the problem here is that some wow players want Aion to be wow and to meter out content like wow. And of course it's not.

I did lvl 20 in 2 days of hard playing and one day each for lvls 30, 31 and 32 on another character. I have many quests that I haven't even gotten to. well written review but I don't agree with it.

when wow was at the vanilla stage it was as hard to level as aion ,only when bc was released blizzard eased up leveling 

now they want same thing doner here but witout expension ,its the silliest idea i heard if the ease up the game they ll loose more gamer from everywhere in the world,and ncsoft still wont get sub from america 

ncsoft forget america ,you ll get america with guild wars 2 

its sad but thats how it will be mostly

whatever ncsoft do to aion it will never please americas gamer

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by Sovrath

Well, I just saw this thread and the review and it boggles the mind.

And as fond as I am of my gnome warlock, the slender, angelic beauties that inhabit Aion's shattered world are a welcome sight.

Because of the relatively short amount of time I've had with Aion, and, to be honest, a general apathy toward playing any further, I've not yet experienced the so-called "PvPvE" endgame that lies in the central Abyss zone. It sounds like a genuinely fascinating mix of competitive multiplayer and co-operative raid content, and if the game hadn't bored me to tears at such an early stage, then I might have gone on to enjoy it. But if even I can't be motivated to reach the level cap -- and I'm being paid to play this game  then what hope is there for your average World of Warcraft subscriber?

 

So a WoW fan who is used to the easy leveling of WoW has issues with Aion's leveling? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't go back to certain areas to find that there are quests that had become available once they levelled.

I think the problem here is that some wow players want Aion to be wow and to meter out content like wow. And of course it's not.

I did lvl 20 in 2 days of hard playing and one day each for lvls 30, 31 and 32 on another character. I have many quests that I haven't even gotten to. well written review but I don't agree with it.

when wow was at the vanilla stage it was as hard to level as aion ,only when bc was released blizzard eased up leveling 

now they want same thing doner here but witout expension ,its the silliest idea i heard if the ease up the game they ll loose more gamer from everywhere in the world,and ncsoft still wont get sub from america 

ncsoft forget america ,you ll get america with guild wars 2 

its sad but thats how it will be mostly

whatever ncsoft do to aion it will never please americas gamer

I see you re from Quebec, but isn t it still too early for hitting the bottle?
 

Originally posted by tanoril

Originally posted by ronan32

Does every  mmo these days have to appeal to the wow audience. This game is the spiritual successor to lineage 2. People who liked lineage 2 should also like how Aion plays, if people want a wow style mmo then just play wow, its the best option for casual or new mmo players. I hate fps games but i dont go round crying about why fps games are not more like rpg games. People enjoy a different kind of mmo experience, so lets stop trying to make every mmo like wow. Oh why cant i raid ulduar at level one in wow, is that not the same thing as  the reviewer is saying about Aion.

 

It does if it wants to be (as NCSoft proclaims) the #2 MMO in the west.  Why would you appeal to L2 players.  How many of those are there in NA?

lol you late it is the number 2 mmorpg 

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Locklain

There is no difficulty in any MMO released to date.  A 'hardcore' person equates to someone who spends too much time playing a game.

A question for you Mr. Eben, why are you even here?  All you do is troll the Aion boards day in and day out.  Do you stalk an ex-girlfriend and trash her in front of everyone that cares to listen because you feel she wronged you?  I am pretty sure if you were to talk to a head shrink they would tell you this kind of obsessiveness is not healthy.  However, carry on, the longer you troll the fewer people will take any credence in what you say.

 

For every one fanboy that cries, two more tell me I'm right. 

Rather telling that you equate a video game to a girlfriend.  Maybe projecting a bit? 

Dude don't even listen to Eben.  He seems to be very full of himself and self-righteous, so there's no point of even debating with him.

Another note is that I have to agree with the review.  It really depends on your taste of what type of game you want to play.  I'm having fun in Aion, so doesn't really matter to me.

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Perfection66

 You get a very good blue item at the end of that quest. If you want every decent item gift wrapped into your lap like WoW you probably wont like Aion.

 

Yeah, because running around in a big circle killing the same mobs, grinding the same item is just oh-so-much more hardcore and different than grinding out honor in a BG...amiright?

 

Actually you fail because if that's your summary of Aion then you obviously don't play the game.  Spend some time in the Abyss and you'll understand what makes it oh-so-much more hardcore than some ridiculous BG.

after having done pvpve , most player feel wow bg are an empty shell why you think european servert are overflowing with player

they have been having line-up since release now if i heard right they can go in within an hour

with all the server added.

I couldn't take the review seriously.

Far too much whining about regressive features such as exp loss at death and failures during crafting.  Risk vs reward and it keeps the game more fun IMO, no challenge in a game where dying is utterly meaninless. (but of course, I'm an EVE player and would say that)

And yes, there's some grinding when you run out of quests.  And there is nothing wrong with that.  You don't have to do all your leveling via quests, a little grind never hurt anyone.  (its all a grind in the end, just with less running around).

So far in this game I've ground some npcs, I've ground out my gathering skills, and now am spending time on crafting (shudder)

Its all just part of the game and the accomplishment comes from surpassing the challenges the game tosses at you and succeeding where others fail.

As they say in EVE, HTFU.

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Locklain

There is no difficulty in any MMO released to date.  A 'hardcore' person equates to someone who spends too much time playing a game.

A question for you Mr. Eben, why are you even here?  All you do is troll the Aion boards day in and day out.  Do you stalk an ex-girlfriend and trash her in front of everyone that cares to listen because you feel she wronged you?  I am pretty sure if you were to talk to a head shrink they would tell you this kind of obsessiveness is not healthy.  However, carry on, the longer you troll the fewer people will take any credence in what you say.

 

For every one fanboy that cries, two more tell me I'm right. 

Rather telling that you equate a video game to a girlfriend.  Maybe projecting a bit? 

Please, I spend less time in a video game than some of you take thinking up responses.  I just find it comical that some feel the need to carry on a personal crusade to bash every game released for "the better of future customers".  Such a glorious cause, it must make you feel all warm and fuzzy that you may have saved someone $50.00

Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone has the same personal tastes that you have?  Perhaps some people are having a good time in the game but everyone that has a good time in game is a fanboy right?

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by tsukts

Well 25+ you get to do instances too, im lvl 36 and enjoy it to the max still:D

1 reason, cause it's not easy like WoW

 

How so?

Please, someone, for the love of <whatever>, tell me how Aion is harder than WoW. 

Seriously, come on.  What, because some opposite-colored little angels might come floaty-gliding in and attack you at random intervals...or what?  Or is it harder because you have to gather more worthless shit?  Harder because you have to grind more mobs?

What is hard about any of that?  The game is on rails, tells you basically go here, here or here, leads you to quest mobs via the quest log, has built-in coordinates so you know exactly where to go, has a laughable combo system that practically does all the work for you, has an auto-follow thing that even runs up to the target...explain how any of that is any harder than what you get in WoW?

cant be explained ,you got to play it , your heart is pumping you stay on defensive because your affraid to die and loose more then life ,you got the pvp foe to think  about ,various spot your raid got to secure you got to have friend protecting your back while trying to take on everything 

then you got to try to kill the raid boss all the while some balaur can come and steal it all away while your busy killing that freaking pvp cleric that refuse to die ,oups you forgot about the raid boss he one shot you you die you lost all xp you grinded for 6 hour etcetcetc 

its emotionally very addictive yes its frustrating but you cant try top feel it from outside it just doesnt work

i ll say how most feel about this abyss

first stage they go in abyss :they want to kwit the game 

friend tell em to stay 

2 stage they begin to see what the buzz is about , now they decided to stay till level 40 

3 stage they experience their first epic pvpve 

now they love the game

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Perfection66

 You get a very good blue item at the end of that quest. If you want every decent item gift wrapped into your lap like WoW you probably wont like Aion.

 

Yeah, because running around in a big circle killing the same mobs, grinding the same item is just oh-so-much more hardcore and different than grinding out honor in a BG...amiright?

 

Actually you fail because if that's your summary of Aion then you obviously don't play the game.  Spend some time in the Abyss and you'll understand what makes it oh-so-much more hardcore than some ridiculous BG.

 

Your right, I don't play Aion.  I haven't played it since about a week after release, when I saw 1.) the game was garbage, and 2.) the people playing it were basically all the 14-year old Naruto-loving retards from WoW, all penned up in one game. 

No thanks.

you havent seen anything lol you probably didnt even see lower abyss keep 

let alone even experiencing higher level abyss event lol

Originally posted by Kyleran

I couldn't take the review seriously.

Far too much whining about regressive features such as exp loss at death and failures during crafting.  Risk vs reward and it keeps the game more fun IMO, no challenge in a game where dying is utterly meaninless. (but of course, I'm an EVE player and would say that)

And yes, there's some grinding when you run out of quests.  And there is nothing wrong with that.  You don't have to do all your leveling via quests, a little grind never hurt anyone.  (its all a grind in the end, just with less running around).

So far in this game I've ground some npcs, I've ground out my gathering skills, and now am spending time on crafting (shudder)

Its all just part of the game and the accomplishment comes from surpassing the challenges the game tosses at you and succeeding where others fail.

As they say in EVE, HTFU.

 

i feel the same as you the risk involved in dying is what make this game good 

true some might feel otherwise espacially if you have to grind 5 hour just to get back to where you were 

my advice is simple dont die and you wont grind!

GRIN!!