I think it's pretty fair to say that Blizzard failed at introducing a balanced hero class into the game.  The complaining has gone down quite a bit, but for a long time you'd read countless threads on the official forums about DKs ruining the game.  Really at the launch of Wrath, the game was dominated by Retardin and DKs, and it amazes me because any other game with such crappy class balance would collapse in on itself.

I have to give some credit to the long time WoW players I know  because they can be really patient about waiting for changes to come down the pipes.  I lost my faith while playing a shaman.. 10 months of Wrath was long enough.

Anyway..  Blizzard seems to focus on the things it can do well; introducing new classes has turned out not to one of them, and I honestly wouldn't expect another.  They must suck at making new dances also....

It's still another year until the next expansion, if they bring out another hero class their not going too reveal it until the last moment, so get over yourself.

Ty all for the entertaining posts. I guess we'll never know WTF happened to "1 hero class per xpac".

Good day.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by grandpagamer

I dont care what Blizz does. I quit this faceroller months ago. Thing is I was playing the game when Blizz introduced the DK and remember them saying there would be a new xpac and new hero class every year. OP asked what happened to that and the WOW fanboys came out and called him a liar. Guess maybe he isnt the liar after all.

 

You know what is funny Grandpa,  you are the only person to use the word liar, lied or lie in the first 50 posts of this thread where you claimed "Blizzard lied about the hero class just like they lied about housing".  Read it right here 

 

So you can thank yourself for twisting the discussion into something it wasn't just to give yourself another hollow reason to nerd rage.  Now you can throw on displacing your own faults on those you disparage.  So far you are batting 1000. 

 

No one said the OP was a liar, but you had zero problem turning his question into another crusade against blizzard for something they never said.  Yes when you imply blizzard LIED you imply they made a promise.  Not to mention why anyone would BITCH as the OP suggests when nothing was promised doesn't make much sense.

 

So once again you are just filled to the rim with fail. 

Your right nobody had the nuts to call him a liar they just eluded to it. Good to see you come to the defense of Blizz even when the statements are produced you can find a way to make it all better. Good job.

Originally posted by Qqueue

Ty all for the entertaining posts. I guess we'll never know WTF happened to "1 hero class per xpac".

Good day.

Cataclysm FAQ

The answer was pretty easy to find if you really wanted it. 

Does it also answer your 'why is no one bitching' question that you created a new user account to ask?

This seems like a very very silly question considering what other things they have said, and than not done, or have said they would not do, but did later.

Originally posted by Swanea

This seems like a very very silly question considering what other things they have said, and than not done, or have said they would not do, but did later.

Are you a hater too? Glad to meet you.

Originally posted by grandpagamer 

Your right nobody had the nuts to call him a liar they just eluded to it. Good to see you come to the defense of Blizz even when the statements are produced you can find a way to make it all better. Good job.

It is called reading comprehension, try it sometime.  Some people disagreed with the OP's claim, but no one said liar until YOU did.  Notice you were also the very first post in the thread trying to stir shit up with a comment that didn't even have any relevance to the topic.

Honestly you rush to be the first poster in the thread, toss out some unrelated insult at the game (which is all you seem capable off) just to stir up shit and now you are trying to defend someone who obviously made a new account just to stir up trouble?   It wouldn't surprise me if the OP was you.

Anyhow, you claim blizzard lied to the players which means there was a promise of something.  Yet you still have not backed up your comments with any proof.  Put up or shut up.  Take your pick.

Plans change, development changes, and ideas change. Welcome to the real world.

But in the end, the same people complaining Blizzard lied would be the first ones here complaining about class balance and how every other class was over-powered except for the one they are playing (I find that rather funny to be honest).

So, Blizzard is in a lose-lose situation with those who would be upset either way.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

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Come on Abrahamm, you can see more to this post than that. 

A brand new poster makes his first post trying to stir up crap here and the first reply is from a rabid hater.  It only got worse from there as the tone was already set.

If the OP really wanted an answer they could have checked the cataclysm FAQ, but they seemed more interested in why people were not bitching. 

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by grandpagamer 

Your right nobody had the nuts to call him a liar they just eluded to it. Good to see you come to the defense of Blizz even when the statements are produced you can find a way to make it all better. Good job.

It is called reading comprehension, try it sometime.  Some people disagreed with the OP's claim, but no one said liar until YOU did.  Notice you were also the very first post in the thread trying to stir shit up with a comment that didn't even have any relevance to the topic.

Honestly you rush to be the first poster in the thread, toss out some unrelated insult at the game (which is all you seem capable off) just to stir up shit and now you are trying to defend someone who obviously made a new account just to stir up trouble?   It wouldn't surprise me if the OP was you.

 

Anyhow, you claim blizzard lied to the players which means there was a promise of something.  Yet you still have not backed up your comments with any proof.  Put up or shut up.  Take your pick.

 

What was said was, they would release an xpac every year and a hero class with it.  But i guess the rapid fanboys dont remember that.  No I dont believe it was written in elf blood but it was said. Were you even playing the game when WOTLK launched? Guess it doesnt matter because if you dont remember it , then it never happened. As for stirring up shit, its not hard to do with you and a few others, as all one has to do is say something unflattering about the holy grail of games and you will lead the charge in defense.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Abrahmm

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Come on Abrahamm, you can see more to this post than that. 

 

A brand new poster makes his first post trying to stir up crap here and the first reply is from a rabid hater.  It only got worse from there as the tone was already set.

 

If the OP really wanted an answer they could have checked the cataclysm FAQ, but they seemed more interested in why people were not bitching. 

That is not what I saw through the thread. The preceding posters seemed rather rabid IMO. Calling the guy delusional is not much different than calling him a liar. It just seems to me some posters got a little to offended by a simple question.

To top it off the guy turned out to be correct, if this had been any other company (SOE for example) most would be all over them and you know it. Whether it was "promised" or not.

Lol, I love it when the blizz kids don't get what they expect.  It's humorous.  No where did blizz say they promised to put a hero class in each expansion.  The wording was more along the lines of: their goal was to try to have a hero class in each expansion.  Being a developer you learn things when creating a game or expansion.  Nobody said that when Cataclysm was in brain-storming stage that they didn't have a hero class, maybe they did.  However, as the expansion went through the different idea boards and meetings perhaps it got cut because they were looking at the content of the expansion and couldn't fit a hero class in lore-wise so it got scrapped with other ideas they had to make for time and content.  The reason we got a DK hero class for lich king was because it fit lore-wise with Arthas.

Because if that was case then we would be getting epic quest chains to unlock a hero class like they claimed we would at blizzcon 2007.  But no we got "you have to have a character over 55" to unlock DK...hahaha what a joke.  And then when you played one it was a op class.  Heck 50-60 pvp bracket is still a waste of time for non-dk's.  Here's probably the big picture.  A new class takes a lot of work because you have to think about talents, skills, perks, etc.  And if they couldn't get a hero class to fit with the lore of the expansion then so be it, they cut it, really who cares?  We don't need a hero class every expansion.  They also said a long time ago they wanted to do an expansion per year...we get every two years now.

WoW isn't really Blizz's main concern in the mmo field at the moment.  In case you missed it, they said at Blizzcon 2009 (and some of us have known longer than that) that Blizzard is working on their next MMO of sci-fi origin (no, they said it won't be Starcraft).  So I'm pretty sue that the content for WoW won't be as groundbreaking as Burning Crusade or Lich King for future expansions.  A enw race here and there and possibly another class, but nothing to really win the hearts of veteran players who have since moved to other games.

Originally posted by grandpagamer 

What was said was, they would release an xpac every year and a hero class with it.  But i guess the rapid fanboys dont remember that.  No I dont believe it was written in elf blood but it was said. Were you even playing the game when WOTLK launched? Guess it doesnt matter because if you dont remember it , then it never happened. As for stirring up shit, its not hard to do with you and a few others, as all one has to do is say something unflattering about the holy grail of games and you will lead the charge in defense.

Don't be obtuse.  Blizzard didn't promise an expansion every year and they never promised a hero class with each expansion pack.  There is a vast difference between what they said they would LIKE to do and what you are trying to claim they said.  Try actually reading what was said for a change instead of replacing fact with your infallible memories..

It is people like you who misrepresent everything developers say just to twist it into something so you can bitch about something.  You are so far off base it isn't even funny, but that isn't why you came to this thread is it? 

Instead of calling my gaming pedigree into question, why don't you post the quote that proves blizzard lied about hero classes every year.  You know, when you stated "blizzard lied to the players".  Go right ahead, this should be entertaining.  Don't push the work onto someone else, you post it since you obviously know exactly what was said. 

If you can't I think it shows you to be the liar in this case. 

Originally posted by Malickie 

That is not what I saw through the thread. The preceding posters seemed rather rabid IMO. Calling the guy delusional is not much different than calling him a liar. It just seems to me some posters got a little to offended by a simple question.

To top it off the guy turned out to be correct, if this had been any other company (SOE for example) most would be all over them and you know it. Whether it was "promised" or not.

The original poster was correct that it was a concept that blizzard was thinking about (1 hero class each expansion).  However, when he goes on to ask why people are not bitching about it (his words not mine) that is stirring the pot and implying people were promised something they are not going to have delivered.  Not to mention the original poster created an account just to start this thread which is someone flame bait material. I'm not saying every response he got was kind, but the tone was set in the first and second post (who are most likely the same person just looking for trouble.)

Honestly the answer to his question can be found right on the blizzard website in the cataclysm FAQ.  Most people are not bitching, because they have already heard blizzards reasons for not going down the 1 hero class per expansion route. 

They created now dual class spec.
 

That was never promised 5 years ago ... :))

But so much better for the players actually playing the game ....

And ... there is MORE difference between a talent set Holy Pala, DPS or Tank Pala than a complete new class in other MMO's.

So ... what's the discussion about? Even more choices above the 30 class specs we already have ???? :)))))

Ty, I rather have the usual CONTENT updates instead of class spec 31,32,33....

Originally posted by Qqueue

I seem to remember blizzard saying that they were going to be releasing a new hero class with each new expansion.

Wheres cataclysm's hero class? Why is noone else bitching about this?

I can't remember that being official. Any way, given how they nerfed death knight to hell and back, I think we can pass on any more "hero" classes for awhile.

Hero class?   I'd rather have the new monk class that Diablo 3 has slated... Now that looks like fun to play..

 WoW doesn't need more classes atm for sure.

Originally posted by Tyrantas

 WoW doesn't need more classes atm for sure.

WoW needs something.. because many of us are at the final straw..  After 5 years of playing I have multiple 80's .. My main server has all 10 slots taken, which I have to delete my 15th level warrior to make room for the new doggie warrior..  He was the only toon below 50th..  Adding 5 levels of content is going to last us a couple months.. IF that..  then what?..

Bliz is already showing signs of "cash cow" wow and lets get lazy with expansions..  Most of the guild I'm in aren't even planning on buying the xpac because we just don't trust Bliz is offering enough content with it...

Bliz.. get off your lazy asses and come out with a good expansion, or I'm going to start calling you "SOE wannabe"..

Originally posted by Rydeson

Originally posted by Tyrantas

 WoW doesn't need more classes atm for sure.

 

WoW needs something.. because many of us are at the final straw..  After 5 years of playing I have multiple 80's .. My main server has all 10 slots taken, which I have to delete my 15th level warrior to make room for the new doggie warrior..  He was the only toon below 50th..  Adding 5 levels of content is going to last us a couple months.. IF that..  then what?..

Bliz is already showing signs of "cash cow" wow and lets get lazy with expansions..  Most of the guild I'm in aren't even planning on buying the xpac because we just don't trust Bliz is offering enough content with it...

Bliz.. get off your lazy asses and come out with a good expansion, or I'm going to start calling you "SOE wannabe"..

Ever even imagined how difficult it IS to create full interactive 3D content with excellent game play in an mmorpg ...

Original WOW took MORE than 5 years to come out and it still didn't have 50% of the features it has now.

You people just don't have ANY idea, do you.

Acivision CEO said it would take at least 100 to 150 million dollar to come up with the same content and playing options WOW offers these days. There IS a reason others have smaller worlds, less options, no underwater worlds etc ...

And you speak about lazy asses...

Look at what the competition brings out at ... 10 million dollars. You can hardly speak of a "world", let alone an mmorpg in most cases.

And btw for MOST people (80% of them I guess) there is already MORE content in Wotlk than they can chew on. You Sir are into the 2% hardcore 24/7 players of WOW. Respect as a player. BUT one will  never keep up with these guys as a game maker.

Never.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by grandpagamer 

What was said was, they would release an xpac every year and a hero class with it.  But i guess the rapid fanboys dont remember that.  No I dont believe it was written in elf blood but it was said. Were you even playing the game when WOTLK launched? Guess it doesnt matter because if you dont remember it , then it never happened. As for stirring up shit, its not hard to do with you and a few others, as all one has to do is say something unflattering about the holy grail of games and you will lead the charge in defense.

 Instead of calling my gaming pedigree into question, why don't you post the quote that proves blizzard lied about hero classes every year.  You know, when you stated "blizzard lied to the players".  Go right ahead, this should be entertaining.  Don't push the work onto someone else, you post it since you obviously know exactly what was said. 

If you can't I think it shows you to be the liar in this case. 

 

I would love to see if he can do this ... but one suspects that you have hit the nail on the head and that GG will not be able to support his words. Lets see a link GG where Blizzard state they guarantee an expac and new hero class every year.

Originally posted by Rydeson

Originally posted by Tyrantas

 WoW doesn't need more classes atm for sure.

 

WoW needs something.. because many of us are at the final straw..  After 5 years of playing I have multiple 80's .. My main server has all 10 slots taken, which I have to delete my 15th level warrior to make room for the new doggie warrior..  He was the only toon below 50th..  Adding 5 levels of content is going to last us a couple months.. IF that..  then what?..

Bliz is already showing signs of "cash cow" wow and lets get lazy with expansions..  Most of the guild I'm in aren't even planning on buying the xpac because we just don't trust Bliz is offering enough content with it...

Bliz.. get off your lazy asses and come out with a good expansion, or I'm going to start calling you "SOE wannabe"..

Trust me they can't be like $OE most of there games (excluding EQ2) is deader than a zombie's dick.

WOW's developers are much more smarter thhan this and at least they are putting forth effort and time to make content for you to blow through in 6 days.

Originally posted by Qqueue

I seem to remember blizzard saying that they were going to be releasing a new hero class with each new expansion.

Wheres cataclysm's hero class? Why is noone else bitching about this?

a phail troll is a phail troll...

and you all fell for it... shame on you all...

Play nice guys.