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vesavius

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''Get me a beer and money sandwhich. Hold the bread.'' - DR & Quinch

 
10/14/09 6:22:44 AM#1

I can spot them, you can spot them, MMORPG can spot them, yet nothing is done about that shill posters that infect this board.

Tbc, I am NOT saying every post that dosent like Aion is a paid shill, or the fake alt account of the same guy attempting to protect his own little game, but it's obvious the majority are.

MMORPG policy states that we as users are not allowed to call out Shills, yet they themselves do nothing about it. I wish they would understand that shilling destroys the integrity and value of a games forum and makes it just worthless white noise junk.

I understand that Mods here are volunteers and have their own agendas in how they police the site, but c'mon... MMORPG.coms rep isnt the greatest out there anyhow, but allowing yourselves to be so heavily used as a viral marketing platform is giving it the final flush down the shitter.

Tyrantas

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 129

10/14/09 6:29:22 AM#2

 Call police, cause aion sucks!

tryklon

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/17/06
Posts: 815

10/14/09 6:38:07 AM#3
Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Call police, cause aion sucks!

 

And still, it has its servers full, loas of people having fun, and the best open pvp in years.

Carry on trolling forums, we will continue to have fun ^_^

Playing: Aion, World of Warcraft, Dragon Age Origins
Waiting for: Star Wars: The Old Republic, Mass Effect 2, Final Fantasy XIV

Perfection66

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/24/09
Posts: 221

10/14/09 6:45:03 AM#4
Originally posted by vesavius

I can spot them, you can spot them, MMORPG can spot them, yet nothing is done about that shill posters that infect this board.

Tbc, I am NOT saying every post that dosent like Aion is a paid shill, or the fake alt account of the same guy attempting to protect his own little game, but it's obvious the majority are.

MMORPG policy states that we as users are not allowed to call out Shills, yet they themselves do nothing about it. I wish they would understand that shilling destroys the integrity and value of a games forum and makes it just worthless white noise junk.

I understand that Mods here are volunteers and have their own agendas in how they police the site, but c'mon... MMORPG.coms rep isnt the greatest out there anyhow, but allowing yourselves to be so heavily used as a viral marketing platform is giving it the final flush down the shitter.

 

I guess your referring to Zordorf and his many alt acounts ... nobody that isn't getting paid could love WoW that much

Aion v3 "RELOADED" - A glimpse into the future of the MMO genre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8

Tyrantas

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 129

10/14/09 7:02:18 AM#5
Originally posted by tryklon
Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Call police, cause aion sucks!

 

And still, it has its servers full, loas of people having fun, and the best open pvp in years.

Carry on trolling forums, we will continue to have fun ^_^

Servers full cos of hype( yeah they are really full, u can't even login). Of those loads of people 4/5 plays it cos it's called aion and it's "fashionable" to play a game called aion. That open pvp is not even near to be the best IMO.

lornphoenix

Novice Member

Joined: 11/16/05
Posts: 615

10/14/09 7:08:45 AM#6
Originally posted by Perfection66

I guess your referring to Zordorf and his many alt acounts ... nobody that isn't getting paid could love WoW that much

 

I don't know about that.
WoW was and still is a great game.
Tho Zorn's Fanboyism of WoW does go to the point of being obsessed...

 

vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 1652

''Get me a beer and money sandwhich. Hold the bread.'' - DR & Quinch

 
10/14/09 7:08:51 AM#7
Originally posted by Tyrantas
Originally posted by tryklon
Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Call police, cause aion sucks!

 

And still, it has its servers full, loas of people having fun, and the best open pvp in years.

Carry on trolling forums, we will continue to have fun ^_^

Servers full cos of hype( yeah they are really full, u can't even login). Of those loads of people 4/5 plays it cos it's called aion and it's "fashionable" to play a game called aion. That open pvp is not even near to be the best IMO.


 

I'm not interested ina troll war with you Tyr, so this will be my last post to you.

You don't like Aion, fine. It isnt your taste, fine. We get it.

Stop trying to hijack this thread to spew your blind insecure hate. It isnt about that.

Tyrantas

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 129

10/14/09 7:15:38 AM#8
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Tyrantas
Originally posted by tryklon
Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Call police, cause aion sucks!

 

And still, it has its servers full, loas of people having fun, and the best open pvp in years.

Carry on trolling forums, we will continue to have fun ^_^

Servers full cos of hype( yeah they are really full, u can't even login). Of those loads of people 4/5 plays it cos it's called aion and it's "fashionable" to play a game called aion. That open pvp is not even near to be the best IMO.


 

I'm not interested ina troll war with you Tyr, so this will be my last post to you.

You don't like Aion, fine. It isnt your taste, fine. We get it.

Stop trying to hijack this thread to spew your blind insecure hate. It isnt about that.

Hate ? I thought it's gonna be pretty good game before release. Blind ? I can give you more facts why it sucks. Yes it isn't about that so i won't post anymore in this thread.

 

diruuu

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/12/09
Posts: 62

10/14/09 7:22:11 AM#9

its a new game. a lot of rants and arguments thats why

ifandbut

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Joined: 4/23/05
Posts: 102

10/14/09 9:20:37 AM#10
Originally posted by lornphoenix
Originally posted by Perfection66

I guess your referring to Zordorf and his many alt acounts ... nobody that isn't getting paid could love WoW that much

 

I don't know about that.
WoW was and still is a great game.
Tho Zorn's Fanboyism of WoW does go to the point of being obsessed...

 

 

WoW has it's merits. So does EvE, FFXI, AoC, WAR, and Aion. Why does it always have to be "X game SUCKS" or "Y game iz teh leet pwnerz" with people?

Veldekar

Novice Member

Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 12

10/14/09 9:26:26 AM#11
Originally posted by ifandbut
Originally posted by lornphoenix
Originally posted by Perfection66

I guess your referring to Zordorf and his many alt acounts ... nobody that isn't getting paid could love WoW that much

 

I don't know about that.
WoW was and still is a great game.
Tho Zorn's Fanboyism of WoW does go to the point of being obsessed...

 

 

WoW has it's merits. So does EvE, FFXI, AoC, WAR, and Aion. Why does it always have to be "X game SUCKS" or "Y game iz teh leet pwnerz" with people?

 

It seems that this is the way that this 'culture' has evolved. Almost like a religion...

Papadam

Elite Member

Joined: 12/09/07
Posts: 1275

10/14/09 9:32:10 AM#12

What shills? You mean the people who posts 9/10 reviews here?

If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd

vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 1652

''Get me a beer and money sandwhich. Hold the bread.'' - DR & Quinch

 
10/14/09 10:06:40 AM#13
Originally posted by Papadam

What shills? You mean the people who posts 9/10 reviews here?


 

  1. I don't think you understand the meaning of shill.
  2. My post history clearly shows I'm not a shill.
  3. Please don't try and turn every thread into a retarded flame war.
Caleveira

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/13/09
Posts: 562

10/14/09 10:15:55 AM#14

I think youd be hard pressed to tell them apart from fanboys. And from what ive seen shills get called on it a lot... And besides, staunch loyal suporters of a game make the best targets for flames.

Just to make things clear...
I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.

Slampig

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Joined: 12/29/03
Posts: 907

Fanboi is not a word, it is just bad grammar.

10/14/09 10:19:23 AM#15
Originally posted by vesavius

I can spot them, you can spot them, MMORPG can spot them, yet nothing is done about that shill posters that infect this board.

Tbc, I am NOT saying every post that dosent like Aion is a paid shill, or the fake alt account of the same guy attempting to protect his own little game, but it's obvious the majority are.

MMORPG policy states that we as users are not allowed to call out Shills, yet they themselves do nothing about it. I wish they would understand that shilling destroys the integrity and value of a games forum and makes it just worthless white noise junk.

I understand that Mods here are volunteers and have their own agendas in how they police the site, but c'mon... MMORPG.coms rep isnt the greatest out there anyhow, but allowing yourselves to be so heavily used as a viral marketing platform is giving it the final flush down the shitter.

The proof is in the pudding. So let's see that pudding...

vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 1652

''Get me a beer and money sandwhich. Hold the bread.'' - DR & Quinch

 
10/14/09 10:27:45 AM#16
Originally posted by Caleveira

I think youd be hard pressed to tell them apart from fanboys. And from what ive seen shills get called on it a lot... And besides, staunch loyal suporters of a game make the best targets for flames.


 

I think you missed the point a bit...

Though it can mean to be paid to haunt forums to positively manipulate opinions on your chosen product, it also means to do the same in a negative manner. Creating a bad vibe about a new MMORPG is an established tactic of every company that has a product in the same market space. I am talking about the second type here.

I also have been personally warned about using the 'S' word in the past, while the obvious shills were left untouched, which speaks volumes to me.

Surfrider

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Joined: 3/14/09
Posts: 195

10/14/09 11:58:00 AM#17

If you have questions or concerns regarding moderation of this site, you can email community@mmorpg.com.  Also, feel free to use the Report Button if you believe members are violating the ROC.

The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not represent the views of MMORPG.com, its associates, or affiliates.

neonwire

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Joined: 12/19/04
Posts: 1371

10/14/09 12:04:40 PM#18
Originally posted by Surfrider

If you have questions or concerns regarding moderation of this site, you can email community@mmorpg.com.  Also, feel free to use the Report Button if you believe members are violating the ROC.


 

Exactly. Now this thread can be closed and all the drama queens can go home.

drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 2144

10/14/09 12:18:08 PM#19
Originally posted by vesavius

I can spot them, you can spot them, MMORPG can spot them, yet nothing is done about that shill posters that infect this board.

Tbc, I am NOT saying every post that dosent like Aion is a paid shill, or the fake alt account of the same guy attempting to protect his own little game, but it's obvious the majority are.

MMORPG policy states that we as users are not allowed to call out Shills, yet they themselves do nothing about it. I wish they would understand that shilling destroys the integrity and value of a games forum and makes it just worthless white noise junk.

I understand that Mods here are volunteers and have their own agendas in how they police the site, but c'mon... MMORPG.coms rep isnt the greatest out there anyhow, but allowing yourselves to be so heavily used as a viral marketing platform is giving it the final flush down the shitter.

yep its true mmorpg try to stay as neutral in the forum as possible and sometime it some post get very heated debate indeed 

but its better that way in the long run

only time mmorpg step in is bad behavior or derailling the title post 

but aside from that if its stays fair ,you get pretty heated debate on some subject here

Kyleran

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Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 8843

"In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin

10/14/09 12:35:40 PM#20

Do you honestly think people are paid by game companies to slam other games? Really?  Remarkable.

Trust me, I play Aion and enjoy it, but its game play design and some features are not going to be appealing to a number of gamers and they're going to come to forums like these and slam the game.

I mean heck, look how many people slam EVE and for the life of me I can't figure out why, I love the game.

Different strokes for different folks, but its a bit paranoid to think there's active campaigns being mounted against games.

 

"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

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Vyava

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Joined: 3/23/05
Posts: 830

10/14/09 12:40:56 PM#21

 Sadly the rabid fanbois and trolls are not paid viral marketers (well the majority aren't anyway). They go on the attacks out of some weird sense of loyalty to a company or a game. Said loyalties usually shift to whatever the current flavor of the month is.

 

Besides what standard would you use to edit peoples opinions or statements?

bluegrazz

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Joined: 8/07/08
Posts: 123

10/14/09 12:45:16 PM#22
Originally posted by Kyleran

Do you honestly think people are paid by game companies to slam other games? Really?  Remarkable.

Trust me, I play Aion and enjoy it, but its game play design and some features are not going to be appealing to a number of gamers and they're going to come to forums like these and slam the game.

I mean heck, look how many people slam EVE and for the life of me I can't figure out why, I love the game.

Different strokes for different folks, but its a bit paranoid to think there's active campaigns being mounted against games.

 

 

I do- but its muss less common than "Buzz Marketers" who are hired to blast Forums with good reviews and opinions (they often have 'Forum Mods' do "Buzz marketing tactics during their shifts- HI KIARA)

Forum Mods in the USA make $16-17/hr (this comes from an advert from Turbine looking for Mods on LOTRO so I am taking this as a base Average) and in "other" countries (namely India) there is vast English speaking pop who will work for far less- Being a Forum Mod (and having more than one per shift) is not a particularly 'time intensive' job (most of the time) and they can easily Moderate New Post's from a second window while 'surfing'- AND their employer knows this (and I am sure takes advantage of spreading "word of mouth" advertising for essentially free- OR to bash other games)...

I KNOW S.O.E. does this- Its up to you to believe what you will and take opinions for what you will- But this does go on and is much more common than you may believe.

vesavius

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 1652

''Get me a beer and money sandwhich. Hold the bread.'' - DR & Quinch

 
10/14/09 12:48:15 PM#23
Originally posted by Kyleran

Do you honestly think people are paid by game companies to slam other games? Really?  Remarkable.

Trust me, I play Aion and enjoy it, but its game play design and some features are not going to be appealing to a number of gamers and they're going to come to forums like these and slam the game.

I mean heck, look how many people slam EVE and for the life of me I can't figure out why, I love the game.

Different strokes for different folks, but its a bit paranoid to think there's active campaigns being mounted against games.

 


 

I know for a fact that companies use this method of viral promoting/ slandering, because I was offered a job to do it.

You don't have to belive that, I couldnt care, and no I am not gonna give any details etc, but I know.

You say paranoid, I say naive.

junzo316

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Joined: 2/19/07
Posts: 1027

10/14/09 12:53:47 PM#24

I don't think they are actually shills.  I think people get "caught up" in the game they play and feel protective of it.  Some go so far as to blindly proclaim its dominance without any evidence to back it up.   Paid shills are far and few between these days, I believe.  I think mostly we have a lot of fanboys.

illanadan

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Posts: 181

10/14/09 12:55:14 PM#25
Originally posted by Papadam

What shills? You mean the people who posts 9/10 reviews here?

If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd

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