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vladakov

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10/12/09 6:42:33 PM#1

 Hey, so i got this from the darkfall website,pretty new info ^^  just wanna let y'all know

"We had the opportunity to talk to the AI Brains behind Darkfall who kindly gave us some interesting information about what they are currently working on.

One of the complaints of the community when it comes to “fluff” was (and is) that the world feels empty when it comes to wildlife. Monsters are mostly roaming around their own area and/or points of interest.

Therefore we are quite excited to be allowed to share this new bit of information with you:

The AI team is currently working on wildlife additions. This new type of AI will be roaming throughout the world and react quite differently then their aggressive counterparts. We have also been told that those will be quite numerous and spread in much bigger radius and areas not limited by any artificial camp range.
The idea behind these new type of AI is of course to add to the immersion while the same time creating new ways of gathering resources. We have also been assured that they are specifically being careful to not add to the server load with these new type of additions as they are well aware that performance during sieges is always a top priority.

What do you think about this potential boost for Darkfall's immersion?"

regards,

vlad

Pyrostasis

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10/12/09 6:44:07 PM#2

Should be amazing...for the 50 or so players that Aventurine hasnt run off yet.

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vladakov

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10/12/09 6:45:06 PM#3

 Ignorrant fanboi

jaxsundane

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10/12/09 6:47:29 PM#4
Originally posted by vladakov

 Hey, so i got this from the darkfall website,pretty new info ^^  just wanna let y'all know

"We had the opportunity to talk to the AI Brains behind Darkfall who kindly gave us some interesting information about what they are currently working on.

One of the complaints of the community when it comes to “fluff” was (and is) that the world feels empty when it comes to wildlife. Monsters are mostly roaming around their own area and/or points of interest.

Therefore we are quite excited to be allowed to share this new bit of information with you:

The AI team is currently working on wildlife additions. This new type of AI will be roaming throughout the world and react quite differently then their aggressive counterparts. We have also been told that those will be quite numerous and spread in much bigger radius and areas not limited by any artificial camp range.
The idea behind these new type of AI is of course to add to the immersion while the same time creating new ways of gathering resources. We have also been assured that they are specifically being careful to not add to the server load with these new type of additions as they are well aware that performance during sieges is always a top priority.

What do you think about this potential boost for Darkfall's immersion?"

regards,

vlad


 

Yeah I know they won't but if I was a player of DF this would make me feel pretty pathetic.  They are actually adding mobs in game and that is news yeah what a sandbox.........

vladakov

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10/12/09 6:53:02 PM#5

 let me explain a bit about darkfall -.-'   it has plenty of mobs, but theyr usually  around certain "hotspots",  like  ruins, towns, the realistic thing where humanoids hang around and to live :P.  between these hotspots are either players or nothing, open world. 

that theyr adding wildlife with a different AI from the original NPC mobs in the game is pretty cool in my opinion, especially cos darkfall is mostly pvp oriented......

parrotpholk

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10/12/09 7:08:31 PM#6

I am all for fluff...I love fluff but..........if everything was fixed and working as intended I would say put resources on fluff but there is still quiet a bit to do so fluff should be down the list in maybe a march expansion as they will have to fix what the october one breaks. But this is a good sign and it badly needs fluff. NPC fillers and fluff would be nice too.

Cecropia

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10/12/09 7:11:23 PM#7

This is great news. lol at the guy thinking they're only now putting in mobs. Why post? You don't know what you are talking about.

It's been a pet peeve of mine in game. I see lots of players and all kinds of different mobs, but the only animals I've come across were a very angry couple of bears that came after me in some mountains. For me it will add so much more immersion as I'm tending to explore so much in this game.

Pyrostasis

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10/12/09 7:16:55 PM#8
Originally posted by vladakov

 Ignorrant fanboi

 

Think you mean ignorant hater, and no Im not ignorant. I played DF for 2 months. When I found out they were going to go back on their word and charge NA players twice, I and several thousand others quit. EU is a ghost town, macroing and exploits are still rampant, and communication from the devs is still practically non existant.

So exactly where am I ignorant?

Have they even announced what they are doing with transfers yet? No? Not surprising.

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DarthRaiden

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10/12/09 7:37:47 PM#9
Originally posted by Pyrostasis
Originally posted by vladakov

 Ignorrant fanboi

 

Think you mean ignorant hater, and no Im not ignorant. I played DF for 2 months. When I found out they were going to go back on their word and charge NA players twice, I and several thousand others quit. EU is a ghost town, macroing and exploits are still rampant, and communication from the devs is still practically non existant.

So exactly where am I ignorant?

Have they even announced what they are doing with transfers yet? No? Not surprising.

 

With "word" you sure mean these :

 

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

"Players in North America are welcome to participate in the European Launch. The plans for US servers aren’t finalized at the time of this announcement. We will offer the option for character migration to US servers for N. American players who wish to use it."

 

And here you can watch thats become like promised  :

Character Transfer Information

"The process will start around the 3 month mark from the NA Launch, as originally planned. There will be no transfer fee if the transfer is completed within a month after the transfer option becomes available. You'll just need to purchase a subscription option on the NA server.

Active EU accounts will remain active; players could create a new character and continue playing. Transfers between NA and EU will be available by paying a small transfer fee one month after the free transfer period is over. There will be a minimum wait period between transfers, for example you may need to wait a month to transfer from one server to the other; you won't be able to do it every day.

Characters will be transferred without any items but with all their stats. The devs have looked into the stats between the two servers and they don’t feel this will be an issue. Undoubtedly an influx of mature characters will affect things on the NA server but the existing population is prepared for it."
 

As you can see NO double charging.

You can continue to hate on Darkfall , or pay try a beta, or play 8-10 years old games or go even play gaion. Is on you.

You also missed a lot of progression. The PvE skillgain patch almost killed macroing to oblivion and the new professional liason team which talks on daily basis  to us.    

 

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Pyrostasis

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10/12/09 7:49:35 PM#10

Poor guy, apparently reading isnt your strongest skill.

They have announced transfers, they have yet to say when, how, or how much.

As for double charging, we were told, and I can link again if needed, that upon launch of the NA server, NA players on EU would be taken care of. We were also lied to and told that the NA rights were to a different company and that was why EU accounts couldnt become NA accounts day one.

So for the ignorant, the idiots, the illiterate, or the average darkfall player.

AV promised NA players prior to launch that they would be taken care of AT na release.

AV then launched NA servers and NA players on EU servers have to pay to play there 50.00 or wait3 months (we are past the 3 month mark now) for some kind of transfers that will have some kind of fee(unless you happen to get in on the month they do it...god only knows when that will be), and possible restrictions.

This is charging twice for those who cant add.

AV informed NA players that a different company owned Darkfall rights in NA, and thats why this was done. Then Tasos in an interview let it slip that actually Darkfall in NA is owned by an LLC setup by Aventurine, that is a completely owned subsidiary of AV... thus... AV owns NA and AV owns EU.

When someone says one thing, and in reality its another, we call it lying or being a liar.

Did I clear it up for you sparky?

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DarthRaiden

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10/12/09 7:59:37 PM#11
Originally posted by Pyrostasis

Poor guy, apparently reading isnt your strongest skill.

They have announced transfers, they have yet to say when, how, or how much.

As for double charging, we were told, and I can link again if needed, that upon launch of the NA server, NA players on EU would be taken care of. We were also lied to and told that the NA rights were to a different company and that was why EU accounts couldnt become NA accounts day one.

So for the ignorant, the idiots, the illiterate, or the average darkfall player.

AV promised NA players prior to launch that they would be taken care of AT na release.

AV then launched NA servers and NA players on EU servers have to pay to play there 50.00 or wait3 months (we are past the 3 month mark now) for some kind of transfers that will have some kind of fee(unless you happen to get in on the month they do it...god only knows when that will be), and possible restrictions.

This is charging twice for those who cant add.

AV informed NA players that a different company owned Darkfall rights in NA, and thats why this was done. Then Tasos in an interview let it slip that actually Darkfall in NA is owned by an LLC setup by Aventurine, that is a completely owned subsidiary of AV... thus... AV owns NA and AV owns EU.

When someone says one thing, and in reality its another, we call it lying or being a liar.

Did I clear it up for you sparky?

 

I can help you read it :

"The process will start around the 3 month mark from the NA Launch, as originally planned.(WHEN)  There will be no transfer fee if the transfer is completed within a month after the transfer option becomes available. (How much) You'll just need to purchase a subscription option on the NA server.(how)

Active EU accounts will remain active; players could create a new character and continue playing. (How) Transfers between NA and EU will be available by paying a small transfer fee one month after the free transfer period is over. (How much)There will be a minimum wait period between transfers, for example you may need to wait a month to transfer from one server to the other; you won't be able to do it every day.(how)

Characters will be transferred without any items but with all their stats.(how) The devs have looked into the stats between the two servers and they don’t feel this will be an issue. Undoubtedly an influx of mature characters will affect things on the NA server but the existing population is prepared for it."

 

You have been offered prior to you buy a copy that a migration will be offered to you, there is nothing stating you would be able to participate at NA launch.

There are people seems who will not pay twice and play on NA-server.   

 

You can also spare me you attitude dude and cut your language if  you pointing words at me, mmkay ?

 

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No SWG Pre-Cu, No money to the $OE suckers , simple and fair.

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rhinok

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10/13/09 11:36:24 AM#12

Once again, I find myself pleasantly surprised by potential changes to the game.  I'm still want to see change actually occur, but it does seem like Aventurine has listened to all of the criticism (most of which was justified, IMO). The truly rabid "fans" will most likely leave in disgust, but true fans will benefit from the changes.

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jimmyman99

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10/13/09 1:34:31 PM#13
Originally posted by vladakov

 let me explain a bit about darkfall -.-'   it has plenty of mobs, but theyr usually  around certain "hotspots",  like  ruins, towns, the realistic thing where humanoids hang around and to live :P.  between these hotspots are either players or nothing, open world. 

that theyr adding wildlife with a different AI from the original NPC mobs in the game is pretty cool in my opinion, especially cos darkfall is mostly pvp oriented......

 

I think what you are describing here is what pretty much any MMORPG has from the beginning. The fact that DF is adding this so late after the release presents the game in a negative light. I think thats what the previous poster wanted to tell in his post.

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daarco

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10/13/09 2:35:17 PM#14

Dont forget its only fluff they are talking about  : )

I dont mind it, but some rabbits jumping around wont change the outcome in any war in DF. If i want rabbits, i play some asian grindfest MMO instead.

Wyldsong

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10/13/09 3:15:42 PM#15
Originally posted by daarco

Dont forget its only fluff they are talking about  : )

I dont mind it, but some rabbits jumping around wont change the outcome in any war in DF. If i want rabbits, i play some asian grindfest MMO instead.


 

"Fluff" as you put it, is one of those things that helps keep the game going when wars aren't being fought, and you can't find someone to pvp. Fluff could mean the difference between keeping a few extra players (adding to the pvp) and losing a few extra players.  Sometimes it is the little things that will keep players in the game and attract the new ones, and for open world pvp, you kind of need players.  And in the long run, those players could be members of a guild fighting in a war, thus helping to decide the outcome of a war.  So yeah, in a round about way, some rabbits jumping around could change the outcome of a war.

Alandora

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10/13/09 4:12:59 PM#16

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This is probably stuff that was put into the game early on, but then they realized they couldn't support players if they had wildlife.  Now that they don't have players, they can add wildlife again.

zymurgeist

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10/13/09 4:23:20 PM#17
Originally posted by Alandora

 

This is probably stuff that was put into the game early on, but then they realized they couldn't support players if they had wildlife.  Now that they don't have players, they can add wildlife again.


 

Well having time to work on their server processes probably hasn't hurt either.

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phrank

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10/13/09 10:01:14 PM#18
Originally posted by Alandora

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This is probably stuff that was put into the game early on, but then they realized they couldn't support players if they had wildlife.  Now that they don't have players, they can add wildlife again.


 

Very astute. Remember they had to drop their roving guards and go to guard towers since the servers could only handle 10K total mobile objects including players!!

I am sure that they have tweaked some code since then but they have also hemorraged subscriptions so there is more processor time available for the servers to track "fluff" MOBs. Of course with most of the game client side they should just let you have all the wildlife you want and let you kill it on your own local machine and not worry about what is on the server.

Oops: just gave the hackers a new idea, sorry shillbots my bad.

Fariic

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10/13/09 10:26:11 PM#19
Originally posted by Alandora

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This is probably stuff that was put into the game early on, but then they realized they couldn't support players if they had wildlife.  Now that they don't have players, they can add wildlife again.


 

That got a laugh out of me. 

Chaswick

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10/13/09 10:36:47 PM#20

You do realize there is an another big patch or "expansion" coming this month right? A lot of interesting stuff is coming in and including enhancements to character specialization.

I've been playing since launch and I've had good times and bad times with Aventurine so far. I think they are finally on the right track. So once paid beta is over, hopefully it will draw new players to the game.

xpiher

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10/13/09 11:53:09 PM#21
Originally posted by Pyrostasis
Originally posted by vladakov

 Ignorrant fanboi

 

Think you mean ignorant hater, and no Im not ignorant. I played DF for 2 months. When I found out they were going to go back on their word and charge NA players twice, I and several thousand others quit. EU is a ghost town, macroing and exploits are still rampant, and communication from the devs is still practically non existant.

So exactly where am I ignorant?

Have they even announced what they are doing with transfers yet? No? Not surprising.

 

Yea you are ignorant. NA players don't have buy another account to transfer. Fail assumptions are fail.

PS: some info on transfers can be found below and in the linked thread in that thread

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=217733

SonikFlash

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10/13/09 11:59:35 PM#22

Ignorant the comments may be, he was right about one thing, this should please all fifty players of darkfall who have no taste in games.

downtoearth

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10/14/09 12:16:02 AM#23

umm think you need to actully go visit clan cities

jaxsundane

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10/14/09 12:30:44 AM#24

Tasos and the community at large have ensured I'll likely not play this game anytime soon but what I can say is that in my estimation they seem to be on the right track, have programmers who understand the code they are working and move at a quite brisk pace to add things to the game kudos to Aventurine for that and hopefully continued success in building a true sandbox

Mokwee

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10/14/09 12:45:21 AM#25

Yes, it's true. Darkfail is trying to steal sub's from Hello Kitty Online by putting in some fluffy bunnehs!

 

Sad thing that HKO is prolly a better game and has more subs. LOL!

 

 

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