Originally posted by Mannish

I just downloaded Everquest 2 trial and so far I am really enjoying it. I think I am going to play Everquest 2 till Tera, Guild Wars 2 or Final Fantasy XIV comes out. I am also going to try Vanguard. So if anybody wants to start new in Everquest 2 on Antonio Bayle server send me a message.

I really don't get how people can be unhappy with Aion and run to EQ2 unless they're a crafting nut.  The crafting is the only thing that game excels in over Aion if you're into that sort of thing.  I think it's overkill myself but they have made it far more reasonable than it used to be and there are those that like that sort of thing.

As to the sense of adventure and lore?  Never felt any of that playing EQ2 and considering how much I loved EQ that was a real dissappointment.  I suppose it all boils down to opinion though so good luck with your endeavours.

Frankly, assuming by this point they fixed the numerous issues the game had VG has far more available to it than EQ2 far as lore and making you feel like you're part of the adventure.  Although the main concern with that game to me would be population levels and how much support that game is actually getting from SOE and their developers.

Originally posted by Giddian

I am so sick of the whiney sniveling little bitches that all they want to do is complain about why they quit a game or how the Devs lied and how cookie cutter the games are. Move on. Get a tissue wipe your nose and go outside. There is nothing new in any games that are out and that are coming out, they are all in it to make money, PERIOD. They will cash in for the first few months get the money and then the fan boys keep it running.

Stop with the negative posts. Some one says I like this, 10 people bash them for liking it. Stupid. Don't like it? Move on.

I just don't get this child mentality today. Man up people. Quit crying.
 

Haha! He said it not me.... I dont think they realize that we laugh at em behind their backs Giddian. LOL. Why even bother whining about an MMO you dont enjoy? Have you all nothing better to do then moan and biatch? Get a g/f or go outside more. Or better just...get a job!! LOL

*snicker snicker* keep the posts coming peeps! At least its entertaining. In the meantime I wont take video games so seriously and enjoy the content Aion has to offer. Taking your time and enjoying a new MMO rather then rushing through is a wonderfull thing.... Adios!! :-)

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by Mannish

I just downloaded Everquest 2 trial and so far I am really enjoying it. I think I am going to play Everquest 2 till Tera, Guild Wars 2 or Final Fantasy XIV comes out. I am also going to try Vanguard. So if anybody wants to start new in Everquest 2 on Antonio Bayle server send me a message.

 

I really don't get how people can be unhappy with Aion and run to EQ2 unless they're a crafting nut.  The crafting is the only thing that game excels in over Aion if you're into that sort of thing.  I think it's overkill myself but they have made it far more reasonable than it used to be and there are those that like that sort of thing.

As to the sense of adventure and lore?  Never felt any of that playing EQ2 and considering how much I loved EQ that was a real dissappointment.  I suppose it all boils down to opinion though so good luck with your endeavours.

Frankly, assuming by this point they fixed the numerous issues the game had VG has far more available to it than EQ2 far as lore and making you feel like you're part of the adventure.  Although the main concern with that game to me would be population levels and how much support that game is actually getting from SOE and their developers.

Everquest 2 is new to me so as of right now I am enjoying it. I tried the game years ago but my PC was not good enough at that time to run it well. I always said it was a game I will come back and try later when I get a better PC.  As of right now I am getting the feel of Adventure and thats what I am looking for. Also I think this game has some of the best graphics I have ever seen in a MMO. The Art Style is different but it looks great if you have a good enough PC.

Originally posted by Ethian

Originally posted by Giddian

I am so sick of the whiney sniveling little bitches that all they want to do is complain about why they quit a game or how the Devs lied and how cookie cutter the games are. Move on. Get a tissue wipe your nose and go outside. There is nothing new in any games that are out and that are coming out, they are all in it to make money, PERIOD. They will cash in for the first few months get the money and then the fan boys keep it running.

Stop with the negative posts. Some one says I like this, 10 people bash them for liking it. Stupid. Don't like it? Move on.

I just don't get this child mentality today. Man up people. Quit crying.
 

 

Haha! He said it not me.... I dont think they realize that we laugh at em behind their backs Giddian. LOL. Why even bother whining about an MMO you dont enjoy? Have you all nothing better to do then moan and biatch? Get a g/f or go outside more. Or better just...get a job!! LOL

 

*snicker snicker* keep the posts coming peeps! At least its entertaining. In the meantime I wont take video games so seriously and enjoy the content Aion has to offer. Taking your time and enjoying a new MMO rather then rushing through is a wonderfull thing.... Adios!! :-)

Keep laughing, just wait until this game sinks to the level that AoC and WAR have.... its like a cycle.  People who lack the intelligence to see through this lousy product will keep it hanging by a thread.  
 

I purchased the game for 50 dollars, leveled to 13 and took it off my system in 3 days. 

The game is simply gorgeous.  The toons and armor are amazing.   But...

...it seems this game lacks a social aspect.   If you don't have friends in there with you, all you see are people in a hurry.   I joined two legions, both of which had at least 7 to 10 people online, but no one talked.  They were busy trying to grind through the leveling to get to pvp levels.  That's what this game is lacking.  A social aspect at the lower levels.   

And the questing?..please...    "Go get 8 leather belts.  Thanks, now go back to the same area again and get HAIR PINS from the other mobs that hang around,   Thanks.   Now go to this person.  (travel to speak to said  person who sends you back)  Welcome back.  Now go get 15 sacks of grain from the 1st mob that dropped the belts".....  All you are doing is basically level grinding to get to 25 so you can begin to enjoy the main aspect of the game.   It got to the point where I just couldn't log in...even with all the eye candy.   

But, all in all, it's not the game for me.  I want a bit more social aspect to a game.    It seems to be an Asian copy of GuildWars.

To each his own as far as gaming goes.   BTW:  Glad to see the site has dropped it's juvenile Darkfall take-over.

Piiv.

Originally posted by Piivot

 

I purchased the game for 50 dollars, leveled to 13 and took it off my system in 3 days. 

The game is simply gorgeous.  The toons and armor are amazing.   But...

...it seems this game lacks a social aspect.   If you don't have friends in there with you, all you see are people in a hurry.   I joined two legions, both of which had at least 7 to 10 people online, but no one talked.  They were busy trying to grind through the leveling to get to pvp levels.  That's what this game is lacking.  A social aspect at the lower levels.   

And the questing?..please...    "Go get 8 leather belts.  Thanks, now go back to the same area again and get HAIR PINS from the other mobs that hang around,   Thanks.   Now go to this person.  (travel to speak to said  person who sends you back)  Welcome back.  Now go get 15 sacks of grain from the 1st mob that dropped the belts".....  All you are doing is basically level grinding to get to 25 so you can begin to enjoy the main aspect of the game.   It got to the point where I just couldn't log in...even with all the eye candy.   

But, all in all, it's not the game for me.  I want a bit more social aspect to a game.    It seems to be an Asian copy of GuildWars.

To each his own as far as gaming goes.   BTW:  Glad to see the site has dropped it's juvenile Darkfall take-over.

 

Piiv.

 

 

Thanks for bringing that up.  Something I failed to mention was how lousy the Legions are.  For some reason, I joined about 5 legions in which no one talked, no one ever wanted to group together...everyone would rather grind for a level than do a quest together.  Also, the group search functions are seriously lacking, as well as flagging yourself for a group.  You can't even make note of what type of group you are looking for.
 

I don't know if this is going to work for me and my wife or not, but we are gonna try to play the game a little here and a little there. I hope this doesn't make us burn out. IWeve taken our time, extremely, since launch. I am not even sure what level I am at, 12 or something. I just decide with my wife, lets play Aion tonight, and we log in for a couple of hours. I hope this works.

We are also going to play other MMOs, to keep a mix going. We just resubbed last night to SOE package, and updated VGsoh, EQ2, and SWG. The main reason was for VGsoh, as I can't get over how nice the videos look and the open world. I bought at launch and it was unplayable. We've updated systems since then and they have updated the game. We tried it on a free weekend or something a while back and liked it, the starter isle at least, so I think we will be happy. Plus I hear it is duo friendly. My first MMO was EQOA and I liked it, and it looks like VGsoh has similarities to it, with better graphics, more classes, more depth, and a bigger world. My second MMO was SWG and my all time favorite. I'm gonna give it another shot, just to see. The other thing I haven't done since SWG is join a guild, and those were fun times, so I'm gonna try doing that again. Of course, back in old SWG your player level didn't really matter, so no one cared how new or old the player, and we loved it. She was fresh to the game and I invited her in. We all would hunt, and I was explaining how to do things to her. Best days I can remember, some fun times.

I tried FE and I liked it fine, but I doubt I'll play it since my wife didn't want to. I see her sitting at the PC next to me playing Oblivion, and would much rather be rolling with her in a MMO we both like. She played SWG with me in the past and loved CH, so I'm hoping BM will appeal to her. My main was a CH also, with some Pistoleer thrown in, my alt was a BH, so I can still be that it seems. She also loved EQ2 when we tried it about 6 months to a year after launch, but it was very hard to duo and at that time the professions didn't open up til twenty. A lot has changed from what I read, so we gonna try that too.

I just hope game hopping and slow and steady will get us back into MMOs. Plus I need to break the habbit that CoH caused which is ALTitis. I hate how I do that in games, especially now days when every class shares the same content. At least with older games, the content was a little different based on class and race. It hinder us a little with the race part, as my wife and I would usually pick something not in the same starter location (thinking WoW here).

But back on topic. I've not sit for hours straight rushing to level 25 PVP, so I haven't been bothered by a grind so far. Hope this can help someone else in a similar situation.

Originally posted by lampo

Keep laughing, just wait until this game sinks to the level that AoC and WAR have.... its like a cycle.  People who lack the intelligence to see through this lousy product will keep it hanging by a thread.  
 

I really don't see that happening here because it doesn't have the inherent flaws that those two games had that I'm not going to go into for the billionth time.  Don't get me wrong, this game has it's issues as well but not like those two games.  Of course, it will never have the numbers some dreamed of either but I really think most knew this game would do alright - not take the mmorpg market by storm.

I suppose only time will tell who's right or wrong.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by lampo

Keep laughing, just wait until this game sinks to the level that AoC and WAR have.... its like a cycle.  People who lack the intelligence to see through this lousy product will keep it hanging by a thread.  
 

 

I really don't see that happening here because it doesn't have the inherent flaws that those two games had that I'm not going to go into for the billionth time.  Don't get me wrong, this game has it's issues as well but not like those two games.  Of course, it will never have the numbers some dreamed of either but I really think most knew this game would do alright - not take the mmorpg market by storm.

I suppose only time will tell who's right or wrong.

Its not the lack of polish that will kill it, its the lack of content and lousy gameplay.

Originally posted by lampo

Its not the lack of polish that will kill it, its the lack of content and lousy gameplay.

I'm actually not referring to polish.  Yeah, it was a factor in AoC (okay - with AoC it was probably one goliath factor) and Warhammer but the real reason those games went south is the actual mechanics of the games.  Now,  AoC has completely revamped their system so who knows?  Maybe given enough time they can recoup.  I doubt it but anything is possible.

I also don't see anything wrong with the gameplay in Aion.  There are some bugs that need to be fixed but the mechanics themselves seem pretty solid to me.  As for content, that is a concern.  It is still a relatively new game but really was a mistake on their part I think to only have one static starting area for players.  Not the wisest choice least in my opinion.  The game does open up at later levels, but I'll be the first to admit trying to tell people, " Well, you just have to wait until you get to lvl 25 and then you'll see what the game really has to offer", isn't the best argument.

Well, I'm only level 16 and playing very casually, with a small group of friends who came with.

Not sure I'll be able to push past the level 25 barrier people seem to be talking about, guess we'll find out when I get there.

(but heck, I got to level 51 in Lin 2, and it was a slower grind than Aion so far.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Well, I'm only level 16 and playing very casually, with a small group of friends who came with.

Not sure I'll be able to push past the level 25 barrier people seem to be talking about, guess we'll find out when I get there.

(but heck, I got to level 51 in Lin 2, and it was a slower grind than Aion so far.

 

I don't know, depends I suppose.  The "hardest" and dullest part of this game to me is getting to that point not what happens once you reach it or level past it.

I'm actually a bit taken aback so many feel quite the opposite.

Originally posted by Xasapis

It's actually "the real game starts at level cap" that's been the bane of modern day MMOs.

This is very accurate.

I'm not bored to the point of quitting yet, but it is definitely the most paper thin mmo I've ever played.  The world is tiny, there is only 1 city per faction, crafting is coma inducing, along with mat and aether gathering, quests are lame, etc etc.  Only reason i haven't quit yet is there is nothing else out, but maybe Fallen Earth will get a try from me.

It's not a bad game, hell it has a lot of polish. I loved exploring the world, it is visually stunning even the deserts. The problem however like many of you said is it just ends up getting boring. Boring to grind and also a pain in the ass to do anything, when a quest takes you more than 45mins cause the mobs are being camped and you are constantly fighting others over the rights to a mob, it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

I played beta, I supported the game but it just wore thin. For someone who hasn't played MMOs this would probably be a blast, for someone who has played too many it's just the same ol same ol.

Originally posted by Xasapis

You of all the people have no right posting on threads regarding boredom. When people are burned out by your favorite game, it's something wrong with them, however when they are bored by another game, it's natural?

Hypocrisy at it's best.

Not hypocrycy at all, just people stating their opinions of the game, and YOU have no reason to bash it because your a fanboy. Sure your having a great time with aion, but others, including me aren't.  So please don't say we are stupid and can't socialize at all, you have no idea.  Have fun with aion and please don't flame, its really annoying, and I can tell you many more then 12 people believe aion is boring, just because there is a  lack of flamers on this post, well minus you of course.

I am still enjoying the game.  Our legion is fun and talkative and I think that helps.  Also, I don't spend a ton of time in the Abyss. I hope they really fill out the blank spots in the game (like at Theobomos) soon so there are more options.  BTW they promised PvE areas only and as of now Theo does not have mid range quests so there goes there promise.  Doesn't matter though Eltnen in the mid-ranges is almost no PvP. 

Very interesting thread. In fact, this thread has been VERY helpful. Just saved me $50.

almost all the complaints aren't even about this game ppl are just burnt out on mmo's in general.

The game does not have much substance and the dungeon designs realy suck.  BS story and lore too.  But its something to play til final fantasy and old republic comes out. 

An hour of open beta and I could tell this game was more of the same fail that MMO devs seem to spew like crazy...

I just bought Fallen Earth and man I don't know when the last time I had played an MMO that just makes me feel so happy inside (prolly FFXI).

yes, we all know this game is "BORING", "GRINDING FEST", AND "WOW 2.0".  Ok move on to next mmo, Please.  :D

Originally posted by tkreep

The game does not have much substance and the dungeon designs realy suck.  BS story and lore too.  But its something to play til final fantasy and old republic comes out. 

And those 2 games will have threads just like this to.  Some people will like those games and some won't, but one thing is for certain those that do not will have nothing better to do than come here and whine about them and how they wasted a staggering $50 on something.  

Originally posted by Frostbite05

almost all the complaints aren't even about this game ppl are just burnt out on garbage mmo's in general.

There, fixed that for you.

Originally posted by TheCalamity

Originally posted by Xasapis

You of all the people have no right posting on threads regarding boredom. When people are burned out by your favorite game, it's something wrong with them, however when they are bored by another game, it's natural?

Hypocrisy at it's best.

Not hypocrycy at all, just people stating their opinions of the game, and YOU have no reason to bash it because your a fanboy. Sure your having a great time with aion, but others, including me aren't.  So please don't say we are stupid and can't socialize at all, you have no idea.  Have fun with aion and please don't flame, its really annoying, and I can tell you many more then 12 people believe aion is boring, just because there is a  lack of flamers on this post, well minus you of course.

It's not about Aion.  He's talking about when people bash wow, that guy who post the message think the person have problem.  But when people get bored of every other game, he jumps in and laughs how every other game sucks.