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Awesome, this may nullify the argument that STO is better than TOR, now that it both ground and space combat.
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Originally posted by stillkillin
Ok we've got to fix some of this "no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG" you mean you don't want it. "look at what it did to swg all jtl did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to SOE about how swg needed to be more like wow." proof? "oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge" oh as opposed to how well it was doing before the NGE news flash had the pre cu game been doing well in the first place the changes would not have been made. "point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want." Let's be honest here since we are all gamers and Bioware has done fine by it's fans (me included) in the past, you don't mean what gamers want you mean what disgruntled swg vet's want as evidenced by your very next post. When it comes to trusting an opinion about gaming I'm sorry I'll stick to whatever it is that Bioware is deciding to do as opposed to being led to believe that you disgruntled vet's give two shits about what anyone else wants and that it isn't about trying to pressure them into recreating pre CU SWG in whatever form you all decide. |
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Originally posted by jaxsundane
Ok we've got to fix some of this "no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG" you mean you don't want it. "look at what it did to swg all jtl did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to SOE about how swg needed to be more like wow." proof? "oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge" oh as opposed to how well it was doing before the NGE news flash had the pre cu game been doing well in the first place the changes would not have been made. "point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want." Let's be honest here since we are all gamers and Bioware has done fine by it's fans (me included) in the past, you don't mean what gamers want you mean what disgruntled swg vet's want as evidenced by your very next post. When it comes to trusting an opinion about gaming I'm sorry I'll stick to whatever it is that Bioware is deciding to do as opposed to being led to believe that you disgruntled vet's give two shits about what anyone else wants and that it isn't about trying to pressure them into recreating pre CU SWG in whatever form you all decide. It's actually not worthy trying to explain, you're best off just shrugging it off, Stillkillin doesn't understand logic and probably never will. All you have to know is he has "200K" friends ready to boycott ToR, he thinks he has the power to change ToR in to Pre-cu or has the power to make them put up a Pre-cu server, he also claims he is the reason SoE is "dying". It gets really retarded, I could go on, but at this point, I have accepted the fact that some mental institution has given its patients computers. Me:You're surrounded by darkspawn corpses, what happened here? |
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Originally posted by Malickie
How is it you have become the universal ambassador for everyone? Please refrain from speaking for others in the future. Great find you have there OP! I never got into JTL and kinda regret that. I wouldn't mind giving space a shot this time around. Stillkillin is a troll and his posts should be ignored by anyone with half a brain. He posts the same things over and over again every week, maybe the logic there is that repetition makes your opinion universal. That logic fails. Hard. |
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Originally posted by greed0104 It's actually not worthy trying to explain, you're best off just shrugging it off, Stillkillin doesn't understand logic and probably never will. All you have to know is he has "200K" friends ready to boycott ToR, he thinks he has the power to change ToR in to Pre-cu or has the power to make them put up a Pre-cu server, he also claims he is the reason SoE is "dying". It gets really retarded, I could go on, but at this point, I have accepted the fact that some mental institution has given its patients computers.
This is his fourth or fifth MMORPG.com forum handle. They all say the same thing. Truly delusional. So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist. |
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Originally posted by stillkillin Plenty of people want an action MMO. Someday, some gaming company is going to look past all the MMO dinosaurs and make one for us. Stop crying in my beer. |
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Whats Star Wars without epic space combat? The game has to have space combat of some type, if I had my way it would be twitch combat very like JTL or Freelancer. I just hope it does not turn out to be this.......... www.youtube.com/watch Don't know if you can run it? |
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DeaconX
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Joined: 2/08/05
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Originally posted by silicnsmiley Plenty of people want an action MMO. Someday, some gaming company is going to look past all the MMO dinosaurs and make one for us.
Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld. My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like: The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series... The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series... The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games... The character customization of All Points Bulletin... The space combat of Freelancer/JTL... The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard... and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games. MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D  Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.
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RavingRabbid
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Joined: 10/11/09
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Bioware hasnt released 95% of the content info yet. Space combat would most certainly be cool if added in. (AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH engages Revan in plunger vs lightsaber duel.......) |
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I doubt there'll be any real space combat, similar to the KotOR games. Perhaps in an expansion? |
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Originally posted by DeaconX
Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld. My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like: The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series... The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series... The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games... The character customization of All Points Bulletin... The space combat of Freelancer/JTL... The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard... and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games. MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D ::sniffles:: You know...we would make beautiful babies together. This is why you'll always have a special place in my heart. Because you think like me in terms of games.
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Originally posted by tillamook
i liked it as well. i prefer twitch fighting to precu. and im firmly against alot of things that came with nge, but im also against alot of what SWG was in any versions of it. action in a mmo is a good thing as long as its balanced with story imo. On the subject though, i certainly welcome space combat. i cant see what a SW game would be like without it. People have to remember that this game will have mmo elements, but dont expect the hdden sandbox beuty of SWG in this game. i really doubt we will see it, and you should set yourself up to expect it...... well unless your a troll that is, lol
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Originally posted by DeaconX
Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld. My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like: The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series... The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series... The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games... The character customization of All Points Bulletin... The space combat of Freelancer/JTL... The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard... and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games. MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D You and i think very much alike! |
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Originally posted by jadan2000
i liked it as well. i prefer twitch fighting to precu. and im firmly against alot of things that came with nge, but im also against alot of what SWG was in any versions of it. action in a mmo is a good thing as long as its balanced with story imo. See in my eyes that is where SOE went wrong in SWG-NGE. Not just the mucking up of clases and stuff, but that gawd-awful psuedo FPS combat system they incorperated. If they really wished to add FPS shooter combat they should have just gone total FPS combat - like we saw in say Star Wars Battlefront. Instead we got a crappy wannabe system with no physics and no LOS system in place. It sucked and always will suck.
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Originally posted by jinxit I wouldn't mind that kind of system in TOR either. Of course it has to be implemented well. That's a given with any game mechanic. It should be fun and playable on it's own, not just something slapped onto a MMORPG to provide game mechanics that people wouldn't want to play otherwise.
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Freelancer while a fun game wasn't a real dogfighter sim. If they're going to mimic anything they'd better mimic TIE Fighter and Freespace. |
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FFS who cares about SOE, you guys do know there is a way you can play pre-cu? That's what I did when I felt I needed my SWG fix. I'm over it now. If it's friends you are looking for, I've ran across most of mine on the TOR forums. Not sure why everyone continues to beat this drum. By this logic the next D&D MMO should play just like DDO because it's based on D&D. I'm sure there would be epic complaints over that one, just like there would be epic complaints if SWTOR was exactly like pre-cu SWG.The best thing you all can do for your cause is not mention SWG, or SOE and play the other pre-cu game we all know is out there.
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Originally posted by Teala
i liked it as well. i prefer twitch fighting to precu. and im firmly against alot of things that came with nge, but im also against alot of what SWG was in any versions of it. action in a mmo is a good thing as long as its balanced with story imo. See in my eyes that is where SOE went wrong in SWG-NGE. Not just the mucking up of clases and stuff, but that gawd-awful psuedo FPS combat system they incorperated. If they really wished to add FPS shooter combat they should have just gone total FPS combat - like we saw in say Star Wars Battlefront. Instead we got a crappy wannabe system with no physics and no LOS system in place. It sucked and always will suck.
yeah your right, but they made future mmos look at combat in a different light. i like the twitch system better then auto combat. i like having more control over a fight. so there was some shade of light ...... its far away but it is a shade, lol |
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DeaconX
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Joined: 2/08/05
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Originally posted by Teala
Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld. My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like: The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series... The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series... The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games... The character customization of All Points Bulletin... The space combat of Freelancer/JTL... The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard... and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games. MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D ::sniffles:: You know...we would make beautiful babies together. This is why you'll always have a special place in my heart. Because you think like me in terms of games.
Yum. Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.
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Originally posted by Teala
Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld. My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like: The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series... The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series... The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games... The character customization of All Points Bulletin... The space combat of Freelancer/JTL... The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard... and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games. MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D ::sniffles:: You know...we would make beautiful babies together. This is why you'll always have a special place in my heart. Because you think like me in terms of games.
HAHA, that is the exact game I want too. Can haz babies too?!?!? |
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