Well, i guess you are entitled to your opinion, Einexile, just dont expect me to agree with you, and i AM actually playing this game right now.

Edit: I didnt play this before, and even with a supposedly low population, most people are friendly and helpful, the sense of community is strong. The game can probably survive with its present population, more folks would be a bonus both in terms for interactions between more people, and more subs could allow Winchgate to do more. I think this game is a long slow growth kind of game, as Eve was, and Eve continues to grow over time.

Originally posted by Hydroblunt

Ok well, so are there enough people in this game or not?

I'm looking to try this but I am on the fence due to these population concerns.

Hydroblunt, download the trial and try it out.  Everyone has a different opinion but it is yours that counts for you.

One thing to bear in mind is that the player base for this game is very, very European. I have been logging on during in the evenings from NYC and the level of activity would make me a little sad. Yesterday I logged in during the afternoon and there were a lot of people around, and the global chat was plenty active. If you are in North America and finding the game dead, try logging in as early as possible.

Expecting more subscribers in a game that HAS NO ADVERTISEMENT is like expecting to charge a cellphone with no electrical outlet.

If I recall correctly they do have plans for advertisment and have been putting together a team dedicated to that sole purpose. As of yet though I don't think anything has come of it, but that's not to say nothing will.

Originally posted by catfud

If I recall correctly they do have plans for advertisment and have been putting together a team dedicated to that sole purpose. As of yet though I don't think anything has come of it, but that's not to say nothing will.

They should have had advertisement before and during the reinstatement of sub fees.

And they didn't even need to spend money. They just needed some initiative, a phone, and send some e-mails.

They could have gotten TTH, mmorpg.com, Warcry, MMOsite, and a dozen other gaming sites to do interviews/reviews FREE of charge. That's free advertising, that would have gotten their game noticed by more people than the occasional forum browser who just happens to accidentally stumble into Ryzom's section here or at one of those other sites.

Trying to get paying players when noone knows the game even exists just makes no sense.

Because the ones who do know and are paying get tired of playing with a low pop and quit. Who's replacing them? A few stragglers here and there who maybe hear about the game through a friend, but then leave soon for the same reason the one's before them did.

No advertisement, no game. And the fact Nevrax didn't learn this from the first time they owned the game really makes me wonder what other lessons they failed to learn.

You make good points, Ryzom has always sucked the big one in the advertisement department. I just feel that the new owners have had a lot of broken pieces to pick up and try to piece together which so far they have done a good job, the new team can only do so much at once. Yes lots of (if any) advertisement from the word go would have been great. But this doesn't mean advertisment can't be introduced at a later date. The game had some really annoying bugs and interface changes that needed addressing that could easily have put off potential new players. The devs said themselves they needed time to get their head around the code and how things work. Now the game is in a better state maybe its time to get that advertisement ball rolling.

It pisses me off that such a good mmo like Ryzom is being virtually ignored by the mmo community.

When more people play a pos like Darkfall over an excellent game like ryzom I question the entire community.

Just keep on feeding the WoW clones cash while gems like Ryzom die, Just don't bitch when unique games like this one no longer exist.

Originally posted by JGMIII

It pisses me off that such a good mmo like Ryzom is being virtually ignored by the mmo community.

When more people play a pos like Darkfall over an excellent game like ryzom I question the entire community.

Just keep on feeding the WoW clones cash while gems like Ryzom die, Just don't bitch when unique games like this one no longer exist.

Yes I feel you, I played Ryzom and I think its a very good game. But I played it until it crashed due to economy. But then someone bought it and I havent been in it since then.

If you wanna try an original game with lovely atmosfear and ephorian music, give it a go I would say.

I think they got a free trial that you can go on.

www.ryzom.com/en/

Originally posted by patrikd23

Yes I feel you, I played Ryzom and I think its a very good game. But I played it until it crashed due to economy. But then someone bought it and I havent been in it since then.

If you wanna try an original game with lovely atmosfear and ephorian music, give it a go I would say.

I think they got a free trial that you can go on.

www.ryzom.com/en/

The new owners have put in a lot of work fixing the bugs that irritated the community in 2007.

They are progressing with events, the latest being a Kitin invasion which had everyone digging and transporting mats to various towers that were under construction.  At first the Kitins of the Depths drove me nuts, but now I am starting to (almost) miss them.

There is a contest underway to develop code for the game. http://dev.ryzom.com/projects/ryzom-api/wiki/Contest

The prices for the subscriptions have gone down and the free trial is 21 days long (no longer restricted to Silan).

Originally posted by Mariann

The prices for the subscriptions have gone down and the free trial is 21 days long (no longer restricted to Silan).

Thats good to hear, the mainland can be quite different to silan. Gives players a better idea of the game. The longer time is great too, I often feel like a week or two isn't quite long enough to get a good feel for the game.

Brand new player, currently on the trial now. Been thinking about trying Ryzom for a couple of years. I'm a veteran EQ2 player and I must have logged a few thousand hours in that game. After the last few months of trying a dozen or more F2P games, I can honestly say this game leaves them all behind. Truly amazing game and I'll probably be subbing soon. As a North American player I'm hoping to contribute to the community on the English server. Good Luck to all...

Originally posted by lancelot76

Brand new player, currently on the trial now. Been thinking about trying Ryzom for a couple of years. I'm a veteran EQ2 player and I must have logged a few thousand hours in that game. After the last few months of trying a dozen or more F2P games, I can honestly say this game leaves them all behind. Truly amazing game and I'll probably be subbing soon. As a North American player I'm hoping to contribute to the community on the English server. Good Luck to all...

Welcome to Atys :)

Great to see even more new players giving Ryzom a go, I hope you continue to enjoy life on Atys.

Its strange. I've played ryzom once after they made the new trial island. I subscribed to the game and played the mainland for a while. Was totally in love with crafting and resource hunting. Thats pretty much all i did once i hit the main land. Gather resources and craft all day long day in day out lol. The system rocks so much its totally addictive.

The only thing that got to me was the skill grind. I never really felt like grinding and getting my battle skills up. Even though the whole skill system is awesome with customizable skills etc. And ofcourse there werent enough players to group with which was also a big downer for me. The community was great though and very helpful and also organized trips to the other parts of the world through dangerous lands full of monsters. A trip like that could easily take hours :).

But now a few years later i still consider ryzom as one of the better mmorpgs out there. Even though i didnt even play it that long. There's something about this game thats really really emersive. It has so much atmosphere and uniqueness its, like others have said a zillion times already, truely a gem of a game. If only there were more players. When i think about the music and the scenery/atmosphere it stil makes me want to jump into the game just to experience it again but ah well....

Ryzom really makes you feel part of the world you play in. Its like playing in a book's fantasy story. Its huge too !! It has so many cool features like resource gathering, crafting, dont even start about exploration coz this game is crazy on exploration (i mean it takes hours to even go from one place to another and boy is it exiting with all those monsthers everywhere).

The world is very scary and beautiful at the same time. Its an amazing feeling.

Its simply a brilliant game and unmatched by many games.

And like i said.. i didnt even play it for that long due to lack of players but i do know a special game when i see it.

Total shame this game had such a bad start.

And like I said, its a vicious circle, people leaving because of too small population.

How is it supposed to grow, if people don´t stay?

*deep sigh*

CU

SaM

Originally posted by MaDSaM

And like I said, its a vicious circle, people leaving because of too small population.

How is it supposed to grow, if people don´t stay?

*deep sigh*

 

CU

SaM

Once a game goes into the spiral death trap, about the only thing that can kickstart it again is the F2P model, which the new owners chose not to do.

I was on a Ryzom alt account last night and Uni chat was moving as fast as Eve rookie chat lol.

People are playing this game it just has a small community.

Honestly im surprised people say they can find a group.

It took me and my little skill rank 50 Zori healer like 10 minutes to find a hunting party that lasted almost three hours.

You have to try to get a team.

Originally posted by metalhead980

I was on a Ryzom alt account last night and Uni chat was moving as fast as Eve rookie chat lol.

People are playing this game it just has a small community.

Honestly im surprised people say they can find a group.

It took me and my little skill rank 50 Zori healer like 10 minutes to find a hunting party that lasted almost three hours.

You have to try to get a team.

Yeah UNI  was pretty lively last night  a little bit of Drama was going on for a while but things got settled down.  Yeah I got in a party with one person last night but we needed more. While im sure there are more people playing at higher levels there are not many people in the  newb zones and there are a lot of Missions you need a group for and you cant really get one going. I think when this happens it most likely turns people off because they feel like they are forced to group. Which as for me I don't mind, I say the more grouping the better.

I just started crafting till I can find a party for those missions though so there are still ways to play without a group.

Originally posted by cukimunga

Originally posted by metalhead980

I was on a Ryzom alt account last night and Uni chat was moving as fast as Eve rookie chat lol.

People are playing this game it just has a small community.

Honestly im surprised people say they can find a group.

It took me and my little skill rank 50 Zori healer like 10 minutes to find a hunting party that lasted almost three hours.

You have to try to get a team.

Yeah UNI  was pretty lively last night  a little bit of Drama was going on for a while but things got settled down.  Yeah I got in a party with one person last night but we needed more. While im sure there are more people playing at higher levels there are not many people in the  newb zones and there are a lot of Missions you need a group for and you cant really get one going. I think when this happens it most likely turns people off because they feel like they are forced to group. Which as for me I don't mind, I say the more grouping the better.

I just started crafting till I can find a party for those missions though so there are still ways to play without a group.

Well two people increase Xp per hour dramatically. My little newb character is around the Zori starting city and last night I had two other melee character in team with me. I made sure they had the taunt skill and we were good to go.

I can usually find a team of two to four people quickly if im willing to raise healing. its a different story when I go melee but it could be done even without a healer as long as you kill fast enough and taunt off eachother.

I skipped the starting island and have been grouping from skill level 10 on lol.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by cukimunga

Originally posted by metalhead980

I was on a Ryzom alt account last night and Uni chat was moving as fast as Eve rookie chat lol.

People are playing this game it just has a small community.

Honestly im surprised people say they can find a group.

It took me and my little skill rank 50 Zori healer like 10 minutes to find a hunting party that lasted almost three hours.

You have to try to get a team.

Yeah UNI  was pretty lively last night  a little bit of Drama was going on for a while but things got settled down.  Yeah I got in a party with one person last night but we needed more. While im sure there are more people playing at higher levels there are not many people in the  newb zones and there are a lot of Missions you need a group for and you cant really get one going. I think when this happens it most likely turns people off because they feel like they are forced to group. Which as for me I don't mind, I say the more grouping the better.

I just started crafting till I can find a party for those missions though so there are still ways to play without a group.

Well two people increase Xp per hour dramatically. My little newb character is around the Zori starting city and last night I had two other melee character in team with me. I made sure they had the taunt skill and we were good to go.

I can usually find a team of two to four people quickly if im willing to raise healing. its a different story when I go melee but it could be done even without a healer as long as you kill fast enough and taunt off eachother.

I skipped the starting island and have been grouping from skill level 10 on lol.

 

Yeah im still on the newb island so maybe there isn't many people on the island or something. Yeah im still trying to figure out what kind of character im trying to make. Right now Im using a sword and shield and I have a few magic spells. I kinda was going for a DnD Druid that I had in NWN.

Originally posted by LegendBlade

After playing this game for some time now  2-3yrs on and off and a few new owners of the game lol...i took time away from the game fed up like others of the stand still ,no new contents..no updates game.

I decided to take another look at this game and put my subs in ...what hit me the most was the total lack of players in game now that you have to pay to play! i knew that the population on Ryzom would drop but this looks bad for Ryzom with a few new players finding it hard to team up and  now with the new Event "Kitten invasion" going on for the next few weeks new players on the main lands are going to have a rough time of it ingame (some new players have walked away from the game already ).

When this game came out a few years back it stood out from the other games ....Now it  just  looks old and  tired  Wating for the plug to be pulled and now  players   just have to many good games to go to  ..yes you will hear from the die hard Ryzom lovers that its the "Ryzom is one of a kind " but without new content its just not gonna bring fresh and old players to the game...Only time will tell.

To top it off it calls its self a sandbox but in this sandbox you cant Tame cant build houses cant really do anything but a crafting system.

I mean you dont even have the freedom to Jump its like WoW with a sandy underbelly.

Check out Dawntide youll probly like that alot more.

This game is terrible, I really wish bad mmorpgs would just vanish.

Originally posted by Strathdor

This game is terrible, I really wish bad mmorpgs would just vanish.

One mans trash is another mans treasure.  Just like I think that game on your xfire sig is total trash.  But to each their own.

Ill fix this both your games Suck.