Whats bad about the game so far?

Hows the Economy in AION?

Hows the Gathering System?

Hows the Crafting System?

Hows the Combat System?

PvP Problems?

PvE Problems?

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Hows the Classes?

Hows End Game PvE?

Hows End Game PvP?

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far? nothing, game has been live for 2 weeks, I'ld assume that once the game actually reaches the end of its first live month that some people might have some info about what might be bad with it. Until then all your going to hear is going to be from people who hated the game before they ever started to play it, or from people who never did.

Hows the Economy in AION? Live 2 weeks, seriously, how many MMOs have ever had a 100% stable economy in the first 2 weeks after launch? Give it time to build.

Hows the Gathering System? working as intended - again lets be serious here, game has been live 2 weeks and your looking for accurate information on a system that is just being learned by everyone?

Hows the Crafting System? working as intended - see above

Hows the Combat System? working as intended - see above

PvP Problems?  like? oh you just want to know anything here - troll much?

PvE Problems? like? oh you just want to know anything here - troll much?

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION? no, not at all - myth made up by trolls to incite forum rants

Hows the Classes? Live 2 weeks - oh and tons of fun to play, if you actually want to try and play the game.

Hows End Game PvE? Live 2 weeks - anyone who says they know what end-game is like is lying to you - they are assuming they know because they think they are able to see the future

Hows End Game PvP? Live 2 weeks - see above

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars? This is an MMO, all MMOs intentionally do not end - seriously how can you eeven concider this a real question? You Honestly think you can finish that one boss in that one dungeon and the game pops up a box that says Congrats - YOU WIN!!

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)? Perfectly smooth, it can be done on stupid mode (mashing keys blindly) or with forethought. Its smooth and interactive, the more you participate the better your results.

Games been out a little over 2 weeks and half your questions ask how end-game is? The other half, all based off troll threads with little to no basis from in-game experience. Not to mention all you want to hear about are the 'problems so far' and the 'bad things'. Yeah, not worth feeding the troll here (even though I did, sometimes its just too much fun).

Lock the thread please!

Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far?

Fun, polished, interesting world, RvR/PvP, decent PVE

Hows the Economy in AION?

Pretty good, easy to get rich off it selling aether/gathered mat's and green's.

Hows the Gathering System?

boring, you click and you watch the bar suceed or fail, leveling it up takes some time though. aether gathering will make you want to shoot a dev. Good money though, since most crafters are to lazy to level gathering.

Hows the Crafting System?

you buy a few mat's, use a few gathered ones, and watch a bar suceed or fail. Work orders help you level/ get mat's. Rare recipes can be found as drops/quests and such. Some recipes can proc for a better result.

Hows the Combat System?

Like any other, combo system is fun though, and animations look great

PvP Problems?

occasional gankage if your running solo in a pvp zone. very team based but i find that a good thing.

PvE Problems?

None i'd say really..some complain grind is a little harder but honestly it's about comparable to CoH grind.

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Not that i've noticed, in fact I love auto move. others who want to move around for the bonuses can do so.

Hows the Classes?

each very basic, you've got your tanks, healers, dps, pet's, etc. they are all very speacialized in their own field though, not to many hybrid classes.

Hows End Game PvE?

ask the koreans, no one here is 50 yet.

Hows End Game PvP?

ask the koreans, likely centered around abyss battles/sieges.

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

never ending, though their is a storyline for you character you can complete i think. each zone has its own campaign.

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

Pretty fast-paced, melee attacks are instant but animation does have it's own 2-3 sec's before it strikes usually. Very smooth though, animations connect beautifully.

Guild Wars is not Aion. Not at all, I don't really see how you came to such a conclusion. Guild Wars was catered as PvP game with a co-operative campaign-style storyline. There was no question about it going into that game, where did you get this idea with Aion? Aion is much like Lineage II, except I would imagine the grind is not nearly as "bad". Also, factions takes a big change from Lineage II, as you don't have control over who your keep/castle gives benefits to. (On the faction-based ones..)

Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far? Gold sellers. The economy. The AH is flooded with way more things than it should be. People are buying gold to grind out crafting and flooding the AH making it hard for legit crafters to flourish. Community is fair, though sometimes its just downright horrible. Quests get bad after awhole, same shit sifferent color. No thought put into them.

Hows the Economy in AION?

Horrible. The AH is stacked with items from botters and gold buying crafters. Good luck selling anything fast for a decent price without having to undercut a lot.

Hows the Gathering System?

Decent but exploitable. Things pop in the same area each time and the channel change functio makes this easier. Just grind away to a high lv gathering nad go back to lower level areas for high lv crafting items (green)

Hows the Crafting System?

Shitty. Most work orders give you stupid random shit like one nail (i kid you not) id rather have money. Not to mention people buying gold have just made crafting meaningless as they control the AH. You might as well not craft, unless its ofr the guild, bu good luck funding that without pulling your hair out.

Hows the Combat System?

Fine, but it gets annoying as hell to repeat the same combos with no brain power needed or no tactics needed.

PvP Problems?

PvP is decent. Probably my only positive thumbs up.

PvE Problems?

YES. For the love of all thats holy i cant stand another kill x of y quest...

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Nah.

Hows the Classes?

Most play the gladiato, at least until lthey nerf it. they are all ok, some just need a little love.

Ill end it there.. that should be enough info.

ok thx

I think the endgame is lacking.  That's probably why you need to grind forever to reach max level.

I also hate the fact that there is only 1 true character that can tank, and 1 true character that can crowd control. 

Originally posted by laokoko

I think the endgame is lacking.  That's probably why you need to grind forever to reach max level.

I also hate the fact that there is only 1 true character that can tank, and 1 true character that can crowd control. 

and 1 true ring to rule them all?  PvP like DOAC would be great.  3 factions so one cant get OP vs. another if they are allowed to team up...  AION is niche, its hard to say.. you might or might not like it~ 

Its only problem is that its actually a good game, causing it to attract all sort of trolls, sort of how light attracts insects.

In a nutshell the only problem is the Leveling curve, which will be greatly improved in the coming patch.

A random note about the economy...

I'm making it quite rich on the Broker.  I never have any trouble selling things and I can usually buy out a few of the ridiculously underpriced things and then sell them at a good price.  I've never really 'played the 'AH'' in a game before and I find myself able to do so in AION.  Armor and weapons can be sold for anywhere from super expensive to very cheap but if you go out and get some gathering items and trade items, look them up in the Brokerage and buy out the small stacks of cheap ones you can make a good buck by selling them for more.

The botters and the spammers are the bane of this game though I have found absolutely NOTHING wrong with the actual economy.  Nothing is too expensive and only the most basic of items such as leathers are too cheap.  Anything that actually requires you to gather it sells well, so there's no real problem on either of the NA servers I play on.. unless you want to buy legendary type items.  Gotta be rich foo, but that should be expected, nay?

EDIT:  Seems like some people are a little jaded (lookin' at you ArcheusCross). 

Crafting is somewhat a grind but looks pretty, can be done just for money instead of for materials if you want and can get you some wicked rewards.  A green item randomly turning into a blue is epic.

As stated above the economy is fine.  Gold farmers don't seem to be affecting any of my NA servers in any other way than bots and spamming.

PvE is just like any other game, quest or grind on mobs, PvP gives a bit of experience and you get a shizzload more experience in the Abyss (25+ PvP zone with PvE mobs and quests) and even gathering gives experience but it becomes negligible quite quickly.

The only bad thing is that it is formulaic. Its a numbers cruncher not a true escape, grind, level to get to the good stuff. Rinse and repeat level after level. They really had somthing with the mythos and the wings and light and dark and so epicly dropped the ball.

You may insert flame here.

In the end I gave whats left of my sub time to a freind. I won't bash the game a lot of folks love it and it has a ton of potential, just not my cup of tea.

Originally posted by Aleste

Its only problem is that its actually a good game, causing it to attract all sort of trolls, sort of how light attracts insects.

In a nutshell the only problem is the Leveling curve, which will be greatly improved in the coming patch.

Spoken like a true fanboi...

There are problems in every game.  If you say a game has no problems, you obviously can't look at something without letting your own personal feelings influence the facts.

Originally posted by Swanea

Originally posted by Aleste

Its only problem is that its actually a good game, causing it to attract all sort of trolls, sort of how light attracts insects.

In a nutshell the only problem is the Leveling curve, which will be greatly improved in the coming patch.

 

Spoken like a true fanboi...

There are problems in every game.  If you say a game has no problems, you obviously can't look at something without letting your own personal feelings influence the facts.

Good thing then that i didn't mention it has no problems. And since when did the possibilty of feelings not influencing opinions emerge ?

To me, the biggest problem is the community itself. One of the servers I play on, Meslamtaeda, there are guilds called "White Power" and "I DPed your mom."

Besides the constant gold spam and the pointless "WoW vs Aion" discussions, verbal abuse of other players is also very common. WoW's Barrens chat has nothing on Aion.

At this point, I would have to say that Aion has one of the worst communities I have ever experienced. At least on the Meslamtaeda server, not saying that all servers are like that.

I did a write up on Friday about some of the games strong and weak suits.  You might find it useful...

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Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far?

Gold spammers have absolutely overrun the game. It is worse than any other MMO I have ever played. The spammers are so bad that everyone leaves the chat channels, rather than attempting to deal with them. Even then, you get /tell spams from gold sellers. The level grind is also a little annoying because there are content gaps at certain points where you will be required to grind mobs for experience because there simply are no quests for your level. This happens more and more the higher level you get and is quite annoying in my opinion.

Hows the Economy in AION?

Economy seems to be reasonably well thought out. Money is not terribly difficult to come by if you gather and take the time to sell things through the trade broker. There are money sinks EVERYWHERE, but they don't usually cause a problem if you are smart about how you play. I honestly don't enjoy the personal stores, however. I don't see any need for them AND the trade brokers, other than the fact that you can only sell 10 items at a time through the broker (which is extremely annoying).

Hows the Gathering System?

Pretty boring in my opinion. You have to watch the success/failure bars race each other on each attempt and it just wastes time in my opinion.

Hows the Crafting System?

Honestly can't comment here. I haven't tried it.

Hows the Combat System?

Combat system is enjoyable and fast-paced. The combo system adds a layer of complexity to encounters that is very enjoyable.

PvP Problems?

You will be ganked a lot unless you travel with a group in the Abyss. Fortunately, there are areas where you can level that are reasonably safe in comparison.

PvE Problems?

Lack of content. There are not enough quests to get your character all the way to cap. There are also not enough dungeons at present. Hopefully this will be resolved as the game ages and NCSoft adds some content. I hear they are already planning to increase the reward gains from questing after level 30, but I don't know when that will be implemented for the North American servers.

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Not in my experience, no.

Hows the Classes?

Every class I have played has been enjoyable. Some have a MUCH easier time leveling than others. I cannot comment on overall balance because I have not reached end game yet.

Hows End Game PvE?

Very few people have reached it, so you probably won't get a good answer to this yet.

Hows End Game PvP?

Same as for end game PvE.

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

It is not like Guild Wars. It is more akin to World of Warcraft, but with a heavy PvP focus.

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

The PvP is very fast and smooth. The developers took many things from World of Warcraft and the combat plays out very much like it does in that game. However, the addition of the combo system makes it a little bit more involved, which I personally enjoy very much.

Hope that helps.

Originally posted by ArcheusCross

Hows the Economy in AION?

Horrible. The AH is stacked with items from botters and gold buying crafters. Good luck selling anything fast for a decent price without having to undercut a lot.

 

 

... so, that means when you want something you'll probably find it cheap? Which is well beneficial for crafters.

Sounds just like greed-talking to me here. Vendors still pay good Kinah for stuff. And since items have no value how can we really say we "undercut" alot really? If something has alot of it on the broker that means it drops pretty regularly , meaning it deserves a smaller price.

You'r opinion is also flawed because I recall gaining 100'ds of thousands of Kinah every week over the broker

Aion is one giant grind.

Imagine this, you are level 29 and you want to lvl up doing missions.  You go to ice Claw village with a weak group.  You die 10 times and spend 60k on soul healing.  You say to yourself wtf?  I should have stayed solo and grind weak mobs.  Then you grind weak mobs then after 1 hour you say to yourself this is fucking boring, Im going to pvp in Abyss.  You go to Abyss and join a zerg and you get credited with 60 kills but wtf, its 60 kills divided by 20 and you find out you got 70 abyss points in total for 1.5 hrs of pvp.  Add to that 20 pot used to keep yourself alive and its another wtf moment!  I should have stayed in that nice safe place grinding lowbie mobs and get reported as a bot.

Then you say to yourself, im going to go crafting.  You get all your harvest skills up and you get mats.  You save 200k and you go to pande thinking you have enough to make an ok armor set.  After 3 hours of grinding to get your crafting up you realize you only have enough money and mats to make 2 nice armor and you are broke again.  Guess what, another wtf moment, you say to yourself i shoulda stayed in that nice safe place and grinded another 4 hours before doing this crafting thing.

then you realized, wtf, i shoulda watched CSI or watch the Seahawks, or go out with my friends or look at my uber porn site than go grind for 6 hours straight killing the same dragonfly/seahorse/aardvark looking thing.

Originally posted by Cognoman

...watch the Seahawks

Now that was just low.  Even for these boards it was cruel to go that far.

Most play the gladiato, at least until lthey nerf it.

Gladiators account for only 16-17% of all characters created in AION. NA servers, at least.

Originally posted by DuraheLL

Originally posted by ArcheusCross

Hows the Economy in AION?

Horrible. The AH is stacked with items from botters and gold buying crafters. Good luck selling anything fast for a decent price without having to undercut a lot.

 

 

... so, that means when you want something you'll probably find it cheap? Which is well beneficial for crafters.

Sounds just like greed-talking to me here. Vendors still pay good Kinah for stuff. And since items have no value how can we really say we "undercut" alot really? If something has alot of it on the broker that means it drops pretty regularly , meaning it deserves a smaller price.

You'r opinion is also flawed because I recall gaining 100'ds of thousands of Kinah every week over the broker

In the betas, yes. But not in live. The same items that sold for 10-20k now sell for 10% of that, so it's much easier to get cash-crunched. Sending kinah off to the Legion for leveling cuts into savings as well. You actually have to budget a bit to get things done.

Originally posted by LynxJSA

Most play the gladiato, at least until lthey nerf it.

Gladiators account for only 16-17% of all characters created in AION. NA servers, at least.

90% of all percentages used in forum posts are made up on the spot.

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by LynxJSA

Most play the gladiato, at least until lthey nerf it.

Gladiators account for only 16-17% of all characters created in AION. NA servers, at least.

 

90% of all percentages used in forum posts are made up on the spot.

His would fall into the 10% then since because unless he's an incredible guestimator he got the numbers from the server status that gives you the percentage of each class played on each server.

Whats bad about the game so far? 
Leveling, the grind has made me and everyone I know want to quit. Gold spammers, any multi-regional channel is rendered useless. Game is extremely boring in at least the first 25 levels.
Hows the Economy in AION?
Undersell and move your items quick. Everything is a gold sink.
Hows the Gathering System?
I must be doing something wrong, I think it's horrendous. Even on a white node, it can stall and take what seems to be 5s-10s to gather once from. Glitches out all the time where even if you click perfectly it will say you stopped gathering, which usually knocks on of the taps off a node. And farming aether crystals may just be plain retarded, at lower levels, when you try to level it up, your lucky if you can get 2-3 taps before running out of flight time. Just going to leave that one to guildies.
Hows the Crafting System?
Not touching with a 10 foot pole currently.
Hows the Combat System? / How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)? I play a ranger, so some of this may be particular to range.
Personally, I don't like it. For one, when people say instantaneous, damage/effects are applied as soon as the cast bar ends, which can be before the animation even goes off. It shows the enemy spell and castbar, so you have to do any interrupts or mitigation abilities while that's up. I've found that if you pop mitigation abilities during the latter half of the castbar though, that the mitigation ability tends not to apply to that ability. Also, no range checks after the ability starts begins to cast. That enables the retardation that is being self-rooted for the animations of certain abilities. And for these certain abilities, you have to completely cease your movement when you hit the ability.

And no, there is no queue system for abilities, so you have to instantly mash when it becomes available. Also, there seems to be no way to tell how much damage is mitigated, if effects are resisted, or if it just refuses to put the effect on, etc. Seems to be no sort of immunities. And while mez insta-breaks on damage, some roots don't. Also, things like silence can apparently be potted out of.
PvP Problems?
Personally, I think the rifts are poorly implemented. Your probably better off not even bothering 'til higher levels, since most dump you near mobs that will destroy you at lower levels (ie. I went through the lowest level rift, engaged an enemy, then had a mob spawn on top of me, that brought my health bar down to 1/2 w/ 1 attack).

Also Abyss Points. So they have this whole system of ranking for PvP, but apparently you can also get the points from quests and mobs in the Abyss as well. So if you're going to grind to level, are you going to do regular mobs, or mobs that give you AP and XP?

Personally, not thrilled about the concept of a PvE realm.
PvE Problems?
See grind. 
Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?
When all you have to do is target the enemy, and then just mash abilities, yes. It's basically the game holding your hand through combat. And why turn it off? It automatically goes to the minimum range necessary to get an ability off. Opponent tries to hide from view? No problem, tab and mash. In previous games, have you been a victim of circle strafing? No longer an issue. Also, game comes with radar built into the minimap.
Hows the Classes?
Seems to be your standard fair of classes. Nothing seems to stand out as an amazing class. 
Hows End Game PvE?
Don't Know.
Hows End Game PvP?
Don't Know.
Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?
If pre-release developments, ie. raising the level cap, serve any warning, it's probably that they will follow the WoW model, in that if too many people "complete" the game, they'll just raise the level cap.
 

Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far?

  Lack of PvP between levels 1-19. Limited PvP from levels 20-24.

Hows the Economy in AION?

  On my server the economy is decent. There is far to much importance placed on crit mana stones for my liking, which drives their price through the roof.

Hows the Gathering System?

  Same as every other game, except that you do not need tools which is good.

Hows the Crafting System?

   I avoid crafting.

Hows the Combat System?

   Decent. I like how combos work. The game feels fluid. I dislike how used and abused CC is.

PvE Problems?

   Grinding mobs gets boring fast and sadly I level faster grinding than doing quests. I actually do quests that are in pockets of mobs that I can grind, but I avoid crafting and gathering quests due to little XP gain from them. PvE gets boring fast in this game and pretty much all games.

PvP Problems?

  Gear and levels is to important in determining who wins in PvP. PvP is also about fetch zerging, get a templar to pull a target then focus fire him down. CC is over used and consumables are necessary to get out of CC. I am not a fan of consumable warfare.

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

   Auto face does tend to bother me, with my Assassin. Many of times, casters get out of my surprise attack due to auto face, that is unless I stun them first. There are more problems with surprise attack, if you walk through and opponent and immediatly click it, it will still register as a front attack half the time. This forces you to wait atleast a second to perform it. Its easy to do in PvE, not so easy in PvP.

Hows the Classes?

  No sense of balance in the early levels thats for sure. Healing classes and casters have an easy time of it at first. Rangers really suffer between levels 11-15. My level 14 chanter can fight 1-4 even level mobs at once and my assassin would die to two even level mobs unless I pop consumables.

Hows End Game PvE?

  Not there yet.

Hows End Game PvP?

   Not there yet.

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

   PvP is never ending :)

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

 The game can play fast and smooth but I tell you, if you hit lag and your playing an assassin, its game over for you. Mostly, the attacks/combos feel very fluid and precise. The animation is smooth and things feel like they link together well unlike with Warhammer when it came out.