Heres my reasons,

1) Blizzard themselves make thousands every month selling gold on Their websites,

2) Ncsoft in NA / EU have done NOTHING to stop gold sellers.

3) Try asking NCSOFT have they banned anyone?  Come on really?

Think, every development company out there that makes mmos can easily kill Gold selling, one, NO currency. Buy stuff with rep points.

Let me see one shread of evidence that ncsoft are not behind these spammers!

Try getting in game support to ban them. Cough cough, really think Ncsoft would?

 So far on Kharun (new server) i have 50+ names now on ban, its a joke this. Why not just put adverts in your game instead!

Originally posted by jessian

 

Heres my reasons,

1) Blizzard themselves make thousands every month selling gold on Their websites,

2) Ncsoft in NA / EU have done NOTHING to stop gold sellers.

3) Try asking NCSOFT have they banned anyone?  Come on really?

Think, every development company out there that makes mmos can easily kill Gold selling, one, NO currency. Buy stuff with rep points.

Let me see one shread of evidence that ncsoft are not behind these spammers!

Try getting in game support to ban them. Cough cough, really think Ncsoft would?

 So far on Kharun (new server) i have 50+ names now on ban, its a joke this. Why not just put adverts in your game instead!

 

 

They've rightfuly banned people I know. You having to block new spammers every day means they are doing something, but it's quite simple, RMT companies lose nothing, because they buy accounts in a fraudulent way.

as everyone else knows, theres usually 2 bots that just appear every day

we block them it goes away for a few hours, but think. this is a company that has 0 stance on removing spammers!

why?

well they are the ones that spam!

and sure as cookies in hot milk, will i spend more $$ supporting them

 Seriously people just need to stop complaining. It's not that hard to right click and block everyone once in awhile after initial login and doing the same thing...

Yeah, I hate it but it's not that difficult to block them when you log on, and usually they would come back in a about 2 or 3 hours later, but again most of time I just stay in legion chat anyway.

Scooby-Dooby-Doo, Where Are You?
We got some work to do now.
Scooby-Dooby-Doo, Where Are You?
We need some help from you now.

Come on Scooby-Doo, I see you... pretending you got a sliver
But you're not fooling me, cause I can see, the way you shake and shiver.

You know we got a mystery to solve,
So Scooby Doo be ready for your act. [Scooby Doo] Uh-uh Uh-uh
Don't hold back!
And Scooby Doo if you come through
you're going to have yourself a scooby snack!
That's a fact!

Scooby-Dooby-Doo, here Are You.
You're ready and you're willing.
If we can count on you Scooby Doo,
I know you'll catch that villain.

Got ride of the Gold spammers finally for good here cancled subscription and uninstalled. Wonder if i will be alone.

Jihad works both ways

where is blizzard selling gold?

Originally posted by Horusra

where is blizzard selling gold?

Between Wendy's buns!

Oh wrong joke eh?

Originally posted by jessian

 

...Let me see one shread of evidence that ncsoft are not behind these spammers!...

Wow, so using that logic how about you show us one shred of evidence that you are not behind the spammers? You want us to prove a negative, lol. Show me one shred of evidence that proves the ridiculous comments you are making.

They certainly are banning people, though not as fast as you would like. Just block the spammers for now. Seriously, it is not that difficult.

Does as shred of evidence include the blocking of character creation on 10+ servers to ban all of the botters and gold spammers? They took it down for 24 hours and while character creation was down I didn't see any spam at all. They are working on it and doing what they can.. only when the char creation was turned back on did I see a new influx in spammers.

it is my belif for a while that what the op is saying is a truth.. and that indeed NCSoft is behind the gold spamming paradise that is Aion.

Tbh i alreayd had some suspicious about it in Lineage2 aswel.. but at least there we could screw them and even kill them temporarly breaking their dishonest business.

In Aion we cannt even kill them.. :p

Oh.  My.  God.

How many ways can I poke a hole into this troll post?  Let me count the ways...

1) Gold sellers acquire accounts by stealing your login and password information.  Most of the time, you just hand this sensitive information over to them under the pretense that they will power-level your character(s) up to max level for a set fee.  Other times, they just hack your computer and get the information via keyloggers or social engineering.  Once they do that, they ahve access to all of your game account's items, characters, and can even get YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION and sell it to the highest bidder... like identity thieves.

2) Game companies charge a monthly fee for most MMO's on the market.  They stand to make more money by keeping their customers, the players, happy and satisfied with their gaming time.  After all, we are their main source of income.  What possible enjoyment do we get from having to listen to people spam badly typed text macros?  None.  How many people would cancel their accounts and make sure game companies shut down the game if they are actively endorsing gold spam and criminal activity?  Everyone (in theory.)

3) Every single online game has rules, laid out in plain English, about hacking and manipulating the game in some form or fashion.  The majority of the time such behavior occurs, the offender is banned because of these gross violations of the respective EULA.  Everyone who uses the software - including these spammers - has to accept the EULA or any other terms when they install the software (and when they log in to Aion.)  When you do so, you are accepting a contract.  You violate the contract?  Your account is banned.

TL;DR version: Conspiracy theory fail.  Go troll somewhere else; your stupidity is not welcome here.

They know RMT brings in more people than out.

One smart guy can make a working spam filter with little hassle. A whole company can't? come on.

A spam filter should have been relatively easy to be implemented. However, to leap from the lack of a spam filter to NCsoft doing the gold spamming is ridiculous.

How about this for logic? If they are the ones selling the gold, why exactly do they need the gold farmers/bots? Oh, that's right, they don't, it's their servers, their code, they can produce gold from thin air.

You may not like the company and some things show a certain level of incompetence, but that doesn't mean that they are after the gold selling.

Originally posted by sirrogue2

Oh.  My.  God.

How many ways can I poke a hole into this troll post?  Let me count the ways...

1) Gold sellers acquire accounts by stealing your login and password information.  Most of the time, you just hand this sensitive information over to them under the pretense that they will power-level your character(s) up to max level for a set fee.  Other times, they just hack your computer and get the information via keyloggers or social engineering.  Once they do that, they ahve access to all of your game account's items, characters, and can even get YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION and sell it to the highest bidder... like identity thieves.

Show me one post on any EU / NA server that has people screaming their ACCOUNTS have been hijacked at all.

What you have said above is CRAP. NCSOFT can Create characters without SERIAL CODES. Come on use that brain inside your head, they do NOT need to steal accounts!  on most servers its usually 2/3 names you have to block.... Why not 100 names?  if it really was outside non affiliated RMTs why only 2/3 per day. why not create a new one right away.

 

 

2) Game companies charge a monthly fee for most MMO's on the market.  They stand to make more money by keeping their customers, the players, happy and satisfied with their gaming time.  After all, we are their main source of income.  What possible enjoyment do we get from having to listen to people spam badly typed text macros?  None.  How many people would cancel their accounts and make sure game companies shut down the game if they are actively endorsing gold spam and criminal activity?  Everyone (in theory.)

Big deal they charge XXX a month, now THINK here, who would spend thousands of pounds to make 15$ on 1000 Gold?  And yes everyone would shut down their accounts if the truth be told. Isnt Gameguard meant to stop this? if gameguard isnt meant to stop hackers, bots or supposed spammers why arent NCSOFT telling us how many were blocked / banned. Im sure in the coming weeks after pressure on the forums NCsoft will say X Y Z and you will believe them.

3) Every single online game has rules, laid out in plain English, about hacking and manipulating the game in some form or fashion.  The majority of the time such behavior occurs, the offender is banned because of these gross violations of the respective EULA.  Everyone who uses the software - including these spammers - has to accept the EULA or any other terms when they install the software (and when they log in to Aion.)  When you do so, you are accepting a contract.  You violate the contract?  Your account is banned.

Again this statement is absoultely rubbish. in it you talk about a EULA... where is NCSOFTS EULA regarding SPAM free servers. Mmm why hasnt NCSOFT been actively patrolling the servers banning these spammers right there and then.

On Kharun everyone there has stopped using LFG chanel, ncsoft might as well rename it, Gold spam Aka Microtransactions.

 

 

TL;DR version: Conspiracy theory fail.  Go troll somewhere else; your stupidity is not welcome here.

Great arguement here, this comment just shows you either WORK for NCSOFT or a silly kid that acutally believes a company thats in financial meltdown is not behind these spammers. YOU kid get the cookie of the year.

The cookie is called, GET YOUR BLINKERS OFF... open your eyes. Since launch i have not posted much on these forums regarding the game, yet you throw names like Troll around, Troll is meaning to constantly flood a forum with useless POSTS just like your post which i have flamed to death. Not once have you posted proof my acquisation of NCSOFT a company that needs $$$ badly for upcoming court cases has 0 i will underline this bit...

ZERO IN GAME SUPPORT ON BANNING OR MODERATING Chat CHANNELS.

NAME ME ONE OTHER MMO THAT HAS NO IN GAME MODERATORS.

The reason for this, they all take turns Spamming your LFG chanel

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by Xasapis

A spam filter should have been relatively easy to be implemented. However, to leap from the lack of a spam filter to NCsoft doing the gold spamming is ridiculous.

Show me where i mention spam filters?  seriously, question back at you....

IF NCSOFT is not doing it, why havnt they IMPLEMENTED A SPAM FILTER????

Oh thats because you dont get to read their TEXT!

How about this for logic? If they are the ones selling the gold, why exactly do they need the gold farmers/bots? Oh, that's right, they don't, it's their servers, their code, they can produce gold from thin air.

Not once in my post did i mention anything to do with bots / farmers, bots are players / power leveling services.

prove to me one player actually can farm 10000s of gold in hours. non, players dont farm, all ncsoft need to do is keep creating players at level 10 or 5 (mind they have the tools to do this without questing) to SPAM chat

You may not like the company and some things show a certain level of incompetence, but that doesn't mean that they are after the gold selling.

hangon a mo, i never said i didnt like either the game or the company, after dealing with the vast mmo experience i have, EVERY MMO has developers selling gold privatley, first one i got real info on was Blizzard and 3 websites.

After 20 of our guild got banned for reporting those names.

Learned that through Lineage 2 :/

How about you prove your claim instead? You're the one made that ridiculous claim with this hilarious thread, not the other way round. You claimed that NCsoft is behind the gold spamming? Where is your proof OP?

Nowhere?

I thought so.

How do you want to be taken seriously when you make such a ludicrous claim and then instead of backing it up, you demand others to disprove you.

Very well. I'll try and do the same. I know for a fact that NCsoft personnel are in fact alien in disguise, sent to take over the world. Disprove me if you can.

Actually OP is right. And that's not all, NCsoft is also the mastermind behind world hunger, poverty, the extinction of the Maya and oh... this just in! As it turns out, there is strong evidence that NCsoft and NCsoft ALONE were behind the most recent global economic recession!

true story.

Obvious troll is... clearly not obvious enough for everyone. :-p

 CCP must be into this as well then. Must be the reason they got the office in Asia!

Then again, it may not be them who are directly behind it, but by not implementing better antispam measures they are indirectly responsible for the gold spam.

Too few people take responsibility for the consequences of their own inaction.

It's just too easy for a game dev to make RMT unprofitable. Spam doesn't exist without profit. Therefore, NCSoft must support RMT. Case closed. It's no big deal, lot's of players would play a game with open RMT. I'm not one of them, so I wish NCSoft would have let me know before I dropped my RM on their product.