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Originally posted by ChrisChan
My top five are
1. Everquest 2 should not of been made, while it has some what of a fan base in its own right, i feel SOE through away their money on this. EQ did not need a sequel they could of took all that cash and gave EQ a massive update that could of gave it EQ2 like graphics etc. Why make a watered down version of your already popular mmo.

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I understand your argument, however revamping the original game would actually have been the waste of money. In hind sight, had SOE incorporated the mechanics/changes that are currently in EQII (upon release) they may have ended up attracting more people, though the whole EQ vs EQII is subjective.

Its not that the games should have ever been made. I just gotta wonder what the devs were thinking.

Especially EQ2 and WAR. Nothing like they should have been.

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Originally posted by brostyn
Its not that the games should have ever been made. I just gotta wonder what the devs were thinking.
Especially EQ2 and WAR. Nothing like they should have been.

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EQ is an old game, fussing it with newer technology isn't going to work, it would be a coding nightmare. To continue the EQ lore, as it were, you would need a whole new platform. EQII is a solid game, it had a terrible start and the implementations were atrocious, but the game is pretty decent now.

Looks like every new thread nowadays is made to bash aion, or end up doing that.

I've played (in a particular order) Air Rivals, Aion, Age of Conan, Cabal Online, Champions, Dungeon Runners, Fallen Earth, Final Fantasy Eleven, Free Realms, Guild Wars, Hellgate London, Lineage II, Minions of Mirth, Mythos, Perfect World, Planetside, Ragnarok, Rappelz, Requiem, RF Online, Rohan, Runes of Magic, Ryzom, Sword of the New World, The Chronicles of Spellborn, WAR, Warrior Epic, World of Kung Fu, and World of Warcraft.

And no game should never be made.

Originally posted by ikyle620

I've played (in a particular order) Air Rivals, Aion, Age of Conan, Cabal Online, Champions, Dungeon Runners, Fallen Earth, Final Fantasy Eleven, Free Realms, Guild Wars, Hellgate London, Lineage II, Minions of Mirth, Mythos, Perfect World, Planetside, Ragnarok, Rappelz, Requiem, RF Online, Rohan, Runes of Magic, Ryzom, Sword of the New World, The Chronicles of Spellborn, WAR, Warrior Epic, World of Kung Fu, and World of Warcraft.

 

And no game should never be made.

What the poster said in yellow. If many of those games fall on to peoples lists of games that should never be made, developers wont learn from other companies mistakes, though at times some seem to not pay attention to other mistakes. All to often players get served with stuff that just is outright boring at times. Eventually the developer world will figure it out. Maybe.

To the OP. 

Instead of saying which mmorpg should of never been made.  Why don't you name me 5 mmorpg which should be made.

Since I'm not sure such game exist for you.

Originally posted by ChrisChan

My top five are

1. Everquest 2 should not of been made, while it has some what of a fan base in its own right, i feel SOE through away their money on this. EQ did not need a sequel they could of took all that cash and gave EQ a massive update that could of gave it EQ2 like graphics etc. Why make a watered down version of your already popular mmo.

2. WAR. War was probably cancled in the first place because little vision. They game offered little group content outside of PVP, and even at the end game teir 4 PVP it was really lacking. People hoped for this to be the next DAOC and they were let down big time. Again you already have a popular mmo DAOC, why not give it a massive update and go advertize it, just because its old doesnt mean it cant be given a new life.

3.AION. no matter what any one says I played it and its just another F2P korean mmorpg that tricked people into buying it. Very linear quest and level system. Very small character customization outside of the actual character builder. gank and zerg PVP that is hailed to be great when its just feels like another BG in WoW rather than a plan and plot PVP game like DAOC.

4. Vanguard. Does absolutely nothing new and when the game was released it was as if the developers did not care and their work shown in the game as well. If your gonna release a half ass product dont release it at all. If you dont care about your work why should others? Its been almost three years since its release and still no huge changes. They just created a very good starter isle that in no way reflects the actual game off that island.

5. Age of Conan is another one it should of been free 2 play or just not made at all. While the noob experience is a lot of fun, you can tell the developers only focused on that part and then half assed the rest of the game. As I said before if your gonna release a product this horribly done once 1-20 is over with why even release it at all? Why give your company such a bad name? You would of been better of cancling it and saving your companies reputation then releasing such a terrible product.

Lol at saying Aion is "just another F2P korean MMORPG.

If we by your definition a F2P korean MMORPG is a game a linear quest and level system, small character customization and gank and zerg pvp then the following mmorpg are all f2p korean mmorpgs by your definition.

- World of Warcraft
- Lord of the RIngs Online
- Everquest 2
- Warhammer Online
- Age of Conan
- City of Heroes

Just to name a few ofcourse.

Ofcourse the real reason people call it a "f2p" korean mmorpg" is pretty obvious: it's just another close minded stereotype made by people who don't know jack about the genre.

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Originally posted by laokoko
To the OP. 
Instead of saying which mmorpg should of never been made.  Why don't you name me 5 mmorpg which should be made.
Since I'm not sure such game exist for you.

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Not the OP but I can name 5 easy enough

1. a real UO 2. Seriously, the best pvp mmo of all time, needs an honest, working, not given up upon sequel.

2. Shadowbane 2, I guess you could call Darkfall this, but Shadowbane also had a shit ton of race and class combos, not just DF's three basic types. If I wanted to be a stealthing birdman who steals items from your inventory, I could. If I wanted to be a huge ass minotaur with a high end resource rolled axe to kill lvl 20's, I could. etc etc etc

3. Neocron 3 / "2.5", if they would ever do a real release in America, people would be in for a good game. Imagine Fallen Earth, but we got it several years ago. It has much better pvp aspects, better vehicles, weapons, armor etc. Pretty detailed crafting system, now toss in a modern graphical engine, a marketing campaign for places besides Europe, you'd have a great sequel/game.

4. DAOC 2, while not true open pvp, a massive realm vs realm system is still better than most carebear alternatives. slap on a graphical update, maybe some new classes, some more backstory for the lore fans, etc solid sequel

5. Tabula Rasa / Auto Assault, hear me out on these, since they suffered similar issues, yea neither game was great, but they both had aspects that were good. For examples sake, look at AA. Aside from the high sys req's at the time they released it, the game which was loosely inspired by Mad Max, had no death penalty. Now I don't know the specifics of its pvp system (could you kill your own faction?) but with no risk no reward, the pvp was nothing but deathmatch in cars. If they made a true sequel, on a scaleable engine, add in a little more actual character work so you had a choice to use a car or not, and a indepth open pvp system with penalities and risks to dying, Auto Assault 2 could be awesome. As for TR, the backstory looked sweet but from what I've read they changed the game a lot, keep that story, toss in some open pvp with the cool sci weaps, great sequel.

Sadly, I doubt we'll ever see these sequels. Instead we'll get Aion, another WoW expansion and god knows what number EQ expansion.. *sigh*

Originally posted by Crichton

 

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Originally posted by laokoko
To the OP. 
Instead of saying which mmorpg should of never been made.  Why don't you name me 5 mmorpg which should be made.
Since I'm not sure such game exist for you.

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Not the OP but I can name 5 easy enough

1. a real UO 2.

2. Shadowbane 2

3. Neocron 3 / "2.5"

4. DAOC 2

5. Tabula Rasa

Sorry, my mistake.  I should have said name 5 mmorpg already exist which you are content with.