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Jita (General)  » Dust 514 Video Interview

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  Yuberek

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10/04/09 1:39:37 PM#1

 Very interesting Video Interview, the microtransactions might break it for some players.

  Xennith

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10/04/09 2:49:38 PM#2

anyone who gets turned off by a free game with optional micropayments was just looking to pick faults anyhow.

  metalhead980

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10/04/09 3:09:34 PM#3
Originally posted by Xennith

anyone who gets turned off by a free game with optional micropayments was just looking to pick faults anyhow.

 

To the console crowd playing a Online shooter with Micro Transaction DLC every couple months is nothing new.

It's seen as a negative to PC owners since most of the F2p shooters are filled with cheats and hacks on PC.

FPS games are much more stable over Xbox live and Psn.

The FPS console junkies will eat Dust514 up.

PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  Xennith

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10/04/09 3:41:36 PM#4

im going to shell out for an xbox for it if its not on pc, it looks very exciting. planetside 2 :)

  Gdemami

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10/04/09 5:32:22 PM#5

Where this micro-transaction information comes from? I was watching EVE fanfest stream and don't remember there was a word about it.

  Xennith

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10/04/09 6:45:53 PM#6

it was in the eurogamer artical.

  Gdemami

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10/04/09 7:04:47 PM#7


Originally posted by Xennith
it was in the eurogamer artical.

Considering they already rate the game as XBOX and PS3 even though platform still wasn't officialy confirmed...

  Mcgreag

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10/05/09 4:32:48 AM#8

They did say microstransaction on the fanfest, it was a response to the most common complaint on the forums about dust "I don't want to pay another subscription".

For more details they said something about using microtransactions to buy weapon blueprints. Each blueprint enabling you to make several thousand copies of the weapon.
Also the leveling comes in here in that you have to unlock the blueprints through some ingame progression before you can buy them.

"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."

  Gdemami

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10/05/09 10:49:16 AM#9


Originally posted by Mcgreag
They did say microstransaction on the fanfest, it was a response to the most common complaint on the forums about dust "I don't want to pay another subscription"

Can you link your source? I made an effort but can't find any CCP quote or anything official.

  Mcgreag

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10/05/09 11:53:30 AM#10

My source is what was said during the Dust presentation at the Fanfest.
Once the videos are posted I'll link.

"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."

  Gdemami

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10/05/09 12:01:33 PM#11


Originally posted by Mcgreag
My source is what was said during the Dust presentation at the Fanfest.
Once the videos are posted I'll link.

I will keep looking...

  tvalentine

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10/05/09 6:56:15 PM#12
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Mcgreag
My source is what was said during the Dust presentation at the Fanfest.
Once the videos are posted I'll link.

I will keep looking...

 


 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/254454/General-New-Dust-514-Info.html

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  Gdemami

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10/05/09 7:00:49 PM#13


Originally posted by tvalentine
 
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/254454/General-New-Dust-514-Info.html


Couldn't care less about another unofficial article.

So far I was unable to find a single quote or resource of CCP representative talking about micro-transactions.

  tvalentine

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10/05/09 7:03:27 PM#14
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by tvalentine
 
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/254454/General-New-Dust-514-Info.html


Couldn't care less about another unofficial article.

 

So far I was unable to find a single quote or resource of CCP representative talking about micro-transactions.


 

great, i'll be the first to tell you "i told you so".... so whats it like living in complete ignorance?

EDIT: also i guess i owe you a "i told you so" as well for saying they were changing sov in the winter expansion .... even with the quotes you still didnt believe me..... well here it is, I told you so.

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  Gdemami

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10/05/09 7:30:29 PM#15


Originally posted by tvalentine
EDIT: also i guess i owe you a "i told you so" as well for saying they were changing sov in the winter expansion .... even with the quotes you still didnt believe me..... well here it is, I told you so.

No worries, you don't owe me anything.

  Zeroxin

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10/06/09 4:22:31 AM#16
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by tvalentine
 
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/254454/General-New-Dust-514-Info.html


Couldn't care less about another unofficial article.

 

So far I was unable to find a single quote or resource of CCP representative talking about micro-transactions.


 

http://www.massively.com/2009/10/05/eve-fanfest-2009-highlights/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/dust-514-preview

Both eve and dust 514 highlights in the massively article and the meat of what was said about DUST is in the eurogamer article.

This is not a game.

  tvalentine

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10/06/09 5:47:06 AM#17
Originally posted by Zeroxin
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by tvalentine
 
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/254454/General-New-Dust-514-Info.html


Couldn't care less about another unofficial article.

 

So far I was unable to find a single quote or resource of CCP representative talking about micro-transactions.


 

http://www.massively.com/2009/10/05/eve-fanfest-2009-highlights/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/dust-514-preview

Both eve and dust 514 highlights in the massively article and the meat of what was said about DUST is in the eurogamer article.


hmm looks like the unofficial article i linked was correct.

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Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Earthrise, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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  Mcgreag

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10/07/09 7:09:18 AM#18

Video is now posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhPig8inEY
The dust stuff starts at around 1:07:00
Microstransactions are mentioned at 1:14:30.
There where more at the Q and A session afterward but that video has not been posted yet.

"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."

  Gdemami

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10/07/09 7:26:30 AM#19


Originally posted by Mcgreag

Microstransactions are mentioned at 1:14:30.


EDIT:
Ah, I got it now.
It is not said, but it is mentioned on the slide with 'Economy system'.

  User Deleted
10/07/09 11:23:35 AM#20

Microtransactions

When DUST launches, it will use a microtransaction based revenue model. Players will, of course, have to buy the game at retail, but as DUST’s Atli Már Sveinsson said in the game’s press presentation, “We still have to pay for servers and such.”

Knowing that microtransactions of any kind can cause heated debate amongst players, the developers were quick to point out that they do not intend to put any item up for sale that would allow players to “buy win.” While the full details are being fleshed out, and any specific information in this area is subject to change, the plan at this point is to make items like blueprints available for purchase. Players who may be concerned that others will be able to purchase items without having earned them will be pleased to know that the company plans to implement a system wherein players have to unlock the right to purchase certain things so that it all comes out on the level.

 

Source: www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3593/page/1

  Lateris

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~Back to the positive perspective~

10/07/09 9:15:21 PM#21

I can support CCP's vision of DUST 514 for the console with a store with how they are suggesting it will run on my PS3. What really rocks is how this influences planetary interaction in Eve after Dominion is launched for Dust 514. I see alot of fun times ahead for Eve. And finally we will get incarna. I also see a movie in Eves future. To me CCP is what Lucas Arts shoud have been.

  BlackWizards

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I AM THE BLACK WIZARDS
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10/12/09 7:50:58 AM#22
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Xennith

anyone who gets turned off by a free game with optional micropayments was just looking to pick faults anyhow.

 

To the console crowd playing a Online shooter with Micro Transaction DLC every couple months is nothing new.

It's seen as a negative to PC owners since most of the F2p shooters are filled with cheats and hacks on PC.

FPS games are much more stable over Xbox live and Psn.

The FPS console junkies will eat Dust514 up.

 

This post fails, hugely. FPS games are more stable over XBL and PSN, are you for real? Go play a round of TF2 and get back to me...

  xanphia

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Joined: 9/28/09
Posts: 694

10/12/09 8:01:26 AM#23
Originally posted by BlackWizards
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Xennith

anyone who gets turned off by a free game with optional micropayments was just looking to pick faults anyhow.

 

To the console crowd playing a Online shooter with Micro Transaction DLC every couple months is nothing new.

It's seen as a negative to PC owners since most of the F2p shooters are filled with cheats and hacks on PC.

FPS games are much more stable over Xbox live and Psn.

The FPS console junkies will eat Dust514 up.

 

This post fails, hugely. FPS games are more stable over XBL and PSN, are you for real? Go play a round of TF2 and get back to me...

Go play a round of H3 or any CoD and get back to me.

Depends what you consider stable. To me, the consoles stream line the whole finding matches and grouping with players experience. I love the XBL network. Greatly improved over time.

  BlackWizards

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I AM THE BLACK WIZARDS
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10/12/09 9:13:49 AM#24
Originally posted by xanphia
Originally posted by BlackWizards
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Xennith

anyone who gets turned off by a free game with optional micropayments was just looking to pick faults anyhow.

 

To the console crowd playing a Online shooter with Micro Transaction DLC every couple months is nothing new.

It's seen as a negative to PC owners since most of the F2p shooters are filled with cheats and hacks on PC.

FPS games are much more stable over Xbox live and Psn.

The FPS console junkies will eat Dust514 up.

 

This post fails, hugely. FPS games are more stable over XBL and PSN, are you for real? Go play a round of TF2 and get back to me...

Go play a round of H3 or any CoD and get back to me.

Depends what you consider stable. To me, the consoles stream line the whole finding matches and grouping with players experience. I love the XBL network. Greatly improved over time.

 

I am so glad you brought those two games up because they perfect examples.

CoD4 I always got laggy servers, always. I have a kick ass cable connection and there was no excuse. I almost never found a match that wasn't laggy, never mind I couldn't pick the server I played on, what map I wanted ect. Not to mention pc users get the maps for free... I sold my copy on ebay and got it for pc and never looked back since.

Halo3 on the other hand I mostly found stable non laggy servers, but I frequently got stuck playing matches were either half my team or half the other team quit before the match was over and ruined it, because no one can join a match after it started.

I really really like sandtraps, my fav map. For the first week that map ran all the time, then every one got sick of it and voted against it every time it came up. Can I pick to play on a sandtraps only server with xbox live? No, I can host one with my friends, but I would be lucky to get a 16 man match more than once every 3 weeks or so. If it was a pc game I could play on a sandtraps only server 24/7.

This bring me to my biggest gripe. I can't play halo3 online any more with out buying map packs. I went to go play a few round about 5 months ago, and I found almost every online game mode except DM was unavailable to me because I never bought a map pack.

You might enjoy xbl, but it's nothing compared to online pc gaming. Nothing.

Go try some TF2, L4D, CSS, UT3, Crysis Wars, BF2, or even quake arena and get back me...