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  DuraheLL

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10/06/09 3:03:53 PM#1

Got the game today but quit for today very fast due to horrible delays for well over 20 seconds.

Anything I do... reload/talk/loot happends 20 seconds later.

Although ShowFPS tells me I have well over 140 fps at all times and it doesnt drop or anything crazy either.

So does anyone know what is going on?
 

And dont give me any lame "turn off the dls" cus that is all I got from help chat in game.


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  User Deleted
10/06/09 3:05:47 PM#2
Originally posted by DuraheLL

Got the game today but quit for today very fast due to horrible delays for well over 20 seconds.

Anything I do... reload/talk/loot happends 20 seconds later.

Although ShowFPS tells me I have well over 140 fps at all times and it doesnt drop or anything crazy either.

So does anyone know what is going on?
 

And dont give me any lame "turn off the dls" cus that is all I got from help chat in game.

 

system secs? also you can open up the options, turn on FPS meter, and also the latency meter.

Other than that, your going to have to provide more info for anyone to help you.

  DuraheLL

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10/06/09 3:10:39 PM#3
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

system secs? also you can open up the options, turn on FPS meter, and also the latency meter.

Other than that, your going to have to provide more info for anyone to help you.

 

I would really not think it has anything to do with lack of system spec. I could play Cryzis on medium/high without much problems...

FPS I said was fine, 140-160. Latency meter I have not checked, will do that.


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  User Deleted
10/06/09 3:12:10 PM#4
Originally posted by DuraheLL
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

system secs? also you can open up the options, turn on FPS meter, and also the latency meter.

Other than that, your going to have to provide more info for anyone to help you.

 

I would really not think it has anything to do with lack of system spec. I could play Cryzis on medium/high without much problems...

FPS I said was fine, 140-160. Latency meter I have not checked, will do that.

Crysis is not a MMO.

What are your system specs? What is your hard drive speed?

 

  shamus252

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10/06/09 3:13:30 PM#5
Originally posted by DuraheLL

Got the game today but quit for today very fast due to horrible delays for well over 20 seconds.

Anything I do... reload/talk/loot happends 20 seconds later.

Although ShowFPS tells me I have well over 140 fps at all times and it doesnt drop or anything crazy either.

So does anyone know what is going on?
 

And dont give me any lame "turn off the dls" cus that is all I got from help chat in game.


 

Gota be your computer or divers then in off citys i get good ping and 160 to 180 fps and 50-80 fps in major towns.

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  DuraheLL

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10/06/09 3:15:35 PM#6
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Crysis is not a MMO.

What are your system specs? What is your hard drive speed?

 

I dont know stuff like that


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  User Deleted
10/06/09 3:18:27 PM#7

 If you don't know things like that then it could be just about anything with your system,I take it if you don't know your own system spec's you also don't run a defrag or indeed update your graphic driver's.

If your system is even a year old and running on old driver''s and no defrag that could even be your problem.

Have someone that know's alittle about pc's have a look at yours and update/defrag for you.

  parrotpholk

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10/06/09 3:19:18 PM#8

 Where are you located. Server is on East Coast so if you are in lets say...........Poland there may be some lag. Otherwise they have cleared up a lot of the issues causing that. Could be your ISP. If on wireless try resetting the router.

  DuraheLL

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10/06/09 3:27:42 PM#9
Originally posted by parrotpholk

 Where are you located. Server is on East Coast so if you are in lets say...........Poland there may be some lag. Otherwise they have cleared up a lot of the issues causing that. Could be your ISP. If on wireless try resetting the router.

 

Sweden


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  Wizardry

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10/06/09 3:34:05 PM#10
Originally posted by DuraheLL
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Crysis is not a MMO.

What are your system specs? What is your hard drive speed?

 

I dont know stuff like that

Umm i would make sure your Hard drive is not near full.

RAM? if running vista you better have close to 3-4,not so sure 2 will cut it too well.

Latency is the biggest issue with ALL online games.I am too lazy to check the IP so you can ping it or traceroute it,but if you have any lag,you are in trouble lol.

I have already mentioned i have what is now an average machine and i can get high FPS's on what was for me default witch was i think all sliders on 75?Default i started the game in tutorial area with a steady 140-170 .In the game world i was still getting easily 50 usually around 75 and sometimes well over 100.

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  parrotpholk

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10/06/09 3:54:57 PM#11
Originally posted by DuraheLL
Originally posted by parrotpholk

 Where are you located. Server is on East Coast so if you are in lets say...........Poland there may be some lag. Otherwise they have cleared up a lot of the issues causing that. Could be your ISP. If on wireless try resetting the router.

 

Sweden

I am going out on a limb and going to pinpoint that as part of the problem if not all of it. Granted some folks from Europe do fine others do not fare so well though. Have a friend stationed in England and he cant play due to horrible horrible lag. I think they will have a European server as there seems to be a definite interest in one. Hopefully it clears up for you though and you can play.

  MMO_Doubter

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10/06/09 3:59:26 PM#12

Is it fair and ethical to offer a game for sale in an area where the performance will likely be terrible?

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  parrotpholk

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10/06/09 4:05:50 PM#13
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Is it fair and ethical to offer a game for sale in an area where the performance will likely be terrible?

Sure. Its as likely to be terrible in some small town in Iowa where they only have dialup as it is in Sweden. There are people who have bad performance in EVE and I wont even talk about MO beta performance.  Granted I am not sure the OP knew it but most folks know there is one server located in the US and take their chances. 

  SonikFlash

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10/06/09 4:09:43 PM#14

Meh I think anyone would agree if you can play crysis on medium/high, your hardwares not the problem for an mmo freezing especially one of fallen earths calibre

  Murashu

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10/06/09 4:11:29 PM#15

I would have to say your internet connection is most likely your problem. If you are getting 100+ FPS then your system is working fine.

 

Over the last 10 years I have played a few MMOs overseas while deployed and always get worse lag than when I play from home.

 

Low FPS would be a good  measure of video lag which is completely independant of latency issues.

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  Orphes

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10/06/09 4:21:03 PM#16
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Is it fair and ethical to offer a game for sale in an area where the performance will likely be terrible?

 

Performance will likely be terrible... Sounds like you are saying that when you play whatever MMORPG's on an american server it would be expected to have bad performance, responce time or something, when you play from Sweden.

It would be interesting to see a list of that. As I have never experienced even bad "performance" in any MMO and you say "terrible". Oh, shure, the performance is slightly better on a EU based server. In general something similar to 50ms compared to 150 ms ping time, but that is hardly 20s.

So, uhm, well you wouldn't have a hard time making a comprehensive list. (Would you?)

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  Orphes

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10/06/09 4:28:22 PM#17
Originally posted by DuraheLL

And dont give me any lame "turn off the dls" cus that is all I got from help chat in game.

 

Gavlenet...? Sorry could not pass on that chance, it's not often you run into someone in the same region :D

Check if you upload is not choking your connection, whatever you may be running may have been taking all your avaible upstream bandwith. That will make up for alot of network problems, especially when you experience delays. If so, lower that or simply quit the program(s) temporarily.

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  WolfClaws

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10/06/09 7:05:54 PM#18
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
Originally posted by DuraheLL
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

system secs? also you can open up the options, turn on FPS meter, and also the latency meter.

Other than that, your going to have to provide more info for anyone to help you.

 

I would really not think it has anything to do with lack of system spec. I could play Cryzis on medium/high without much problems...

FPS I said was fine, 140-160. Latency meter I have not checked, will do that.

Crysis is not a MMO.

What are your system specs? What is your hard drive speed?

 


 

LMAO!

 

Ok, sorry, but this is really really funny.

The problems ole boy is getting is the lag.  Latency.  Latency and FPS are two different things. 

The way Fallen Earth has their stuff set up is much like how CoX has their Chat System, or even other games like AoC.  Different databases, and they are communicating at different speeds.  Even the gameplay is associated with a different database, which would be seperate from the graphics/sound portion.

LOL, what's your hard drive speed.  Classic.

  User Deleted
10/06/09 10:38:06 PM#19
Originally posted by WolfClaws
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
Originally posted by DuraheLL
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

system secs? also you can open up the options, turn on FPS meter, and also the latency meter.

Other than that, your going to have to provide more info for anyone to help you.

 

I would really not think it has anything to do with lack of system spec. I could play Cryzis on medium/high without much problems...

FPS I said was fine, 140-160. Latency meter I have not checked, will do that.

Crysis is not a MMO.

What are your system specs? What is your hard drive speed?

 


 

LMAO!

 

Ok, sorry, but this is really really funny.

The problems ole boy is getting is the lag.  Latency.  Latency and FPS are two different things. 

The way Fallen Earth has their stuff set up is much like how CoX has their Chat System, or even other games like AoC.  Different databases, and they are communicating at different speeds.  Even the gameplay is associated with a different database, which would be seperate from the graphics/sound portion.

LOL, what's your hard drive speed.  Classic.

 

MMOS like fallen earth use streaming off the hard drive, if his hard drive is full, dying, or old and slow, stalls will happen.

 


Move along.

 

 

  WolfClaws

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10/07/09 6:22:21 AM#20

Yes, but that would not be latency, like his chat and interacting with the environment.  With his FPS being at 100+ that kind of rules out local system as the problem for his lag.

It ends up being his router, ISP or just his location.  Kinda like him living in another country.

It's ok to be wrong.  Even way out in left field wrong.  Even Christopher Columbus wrong. 

 

But I sure got a great laugh on it LOL!

  DonnieBrasco

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10/07/09 6:33:05 AM#21
Originally posted by WolfClaws

Yes, but that would not be latency, like his chat and interacting with the environment.  With his FPS being at 100+ that kind of rules out local system as the problem for his lag.

It ends up being his router, ISP or just his location.  Kinda like him living in another country.

It's ok to be wrong.  Even way out in left field wrong.  Even Christopher Columbus wrong. 

 

But I sure got a great laugh on it LOL!


 

Having a high FPS does not rule out hitching due to unfragmented/full HD. This option is only made more likely by the OP admitting having no clue how his PC works.

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  WolfClaws

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10/07/09 6:40:48 AM#22

He had dumb luck. 

A fragged hard drive is not going to net you high FPS.  The FPS will stick when the delay happens.  If he was experiencing a "horrible delay" it was the result of his packets getting all bunched up, then burst in/out, then bunch up again, etc.

Having played MMOs and FPS games overseas, I know how he must feel.  His system can handle Crysis, it can handle FE.

And that thing I read about it being a MMO making it a different animal and not the same as FPS is bunk as well. 

If the guy can handle Crysis graphically, he can handle any MMO out there to date.  The delay he is getting is lag.  Not his system.  Read his first 2 comments, it rules out anything local.

  Alanako

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10/07/09 7:05:33 AM#23

I agree that by his description of the problem its a conection thing, but more probably on his end that on FE.
I play from Spain and yesterday have not experienced that type of lag, not was the chat full of people complaining about it
it. He could have some other software eating bandwith, his firewall messing with FE, a bad ISP, or if he is playing from a computer conected to a LAN, any other computer there could be the problem.
Also, been able to run crysis didnt mean you could run FE. I played Aion chinesse at max settings (crysis engine) getting 40 fps in Asmodean capital city and 80-100 outdoors at 1920x1200 and that computer barely got 40 fps outdoors in FE with shadows and post fx off, and around 10 fps in cities

  DuraheLL

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10/07/09 7:26:04 AM#24
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

MMOS like fallen earth use streaming off the hard drive, if his hard drive is full, dying, or old and slow, stalls will happen.

 


Move along.

 

its nowhere near full, 19 GB left. Its not that old though, got it 2 years ago at max. Never ever experienced something like this though


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  DuraheLL

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10/07/09 7:30:09 AM#25
Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Having a high FPS does not rule out hitching due to unfragmented/full HD. This option is only made more likely by the OP admitting having no clue how his PC works.

DB

By today, defraging your harddrive does nearly nothing at all. Nobody I know does that anymore since they dont have to


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