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Dana

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10/05/09 12:23:25 PM#1

Having trouble deciding who you will be in Aion? Let us help you. Robert Duckworth runs through the classes and gives you some insights into what you can expect from each.

Templars are the best tanks in the game. If you decide to play a Templar then you will be tanking things at some point, there is not much of an option when you are the best there is. A Templar cannot pull off the same damage as the DPS classes, but they can hold their own and so should not be left out of a group if there is already a Templar in it. They have the standard tanking abilities for an MMO that uses a threat system: Taunts, a lot of attacks that deal increased threat, and passive abilities that increase threat from damage. My personal favorite tanking/CC ability though is one called Divine Grasp: your target and all enemies within 20 yards of your target are dragged towards you with spirit like ropes. If you play WoW, it is the same as a Death Knights’ Death Grip, except it grabs everyone instead of just one person. When wishing to deal damage they will equip a two handed sword, but the real essence of a Templar involves using a shield.

Read it all here.

Brogath

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10/05/09 1:14:59 PM#2

Chanters are able to resurrect.  They get the spell while still in the Priest archetype.

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Fortenc

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10/05/09 1:32:13 PM#3

To add to the fact that Chanters can resurrect they also have stronger heal-over-time abilities than the Cleric and, if diligent, can keep them up on all members of the group as they last for 40 seconds.

 

Very, very difficult to play a Chanter in PvP, the few snares you have are at the end of long combos and you probably won't be able to get them off on moving targets.

 

Finally Chanters press very few buttons as most of their attacks are long, elegant combos rather than providing many different attacks.

Objectiveness is delivered with a lack of personality made for the mainstream but never used for the mainstream.

Ozmodan

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10/05/09 2:00:42 PM#4

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.

Stratford

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10/05/09 2:23:01 PM#5
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.

 

Yep.  Asia has yet to produce a fun MMORPG.  I'm always amazed how people keep flocking to them, and then leaving in hordes.  You'd think they'd learn a lesson, but nope, they just keep banging their heads against the wall.

eric_w66

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10/05/09 2:35:50 PM#6
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.


 

Because with flexibility comes less choice. AC1 was a good example of this (as was SW:G), AC1 basically had three "templates" that everyone followed because they were found to be "the best" at whatever the player wanted to do (heal, deal ranged damage, or deal melee damage).

So instead of 8 classes like AION has, you end up with basically 2-3 templates.

comerb

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10/05/09 9:11:31 PM#7

 Assassin's outpace Sorcerers in single target damage at the later stages of the game.

Regnevanz

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10/05/09 9:16:08 PM#8
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.

 

Aion has varying attributes on all gear (not just cookie cutter rigidness of wow)

Gear in Aion is socketable with manastones so you can customise your class to suit (unlike wow all gear is the same for everyone period Rigid Cookies AGAIN!)

Aion actually gives your class all the skills you need -  without needing a 'Talent Tree' to make the skills effective and essentially fooling players into thinking that Talent Trees are a feature - no they aren't - the programmers were just to sloppy with your base skills to begin with

Combat in wow = click buttons and auto target and auto kill rigid and boring making pvp meaningless. AIon has a combat system for those that manually move during combat - ie. move forward +Attack -defense move backwards +defense -attack - Strafe you ask? Bonus to evade and Parry... again Aion is more flexible than WoW

SO if you want rigid unbending  mindless class cookie cutter gameplay stick with WoW - if you want flexibility and customisation and competitive massive pvp play AION

gkk1212

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"Kill`em All Let The Medics Sort 0ut The Body Parts"

10/06/09 1:49:34 AM#9
Originally posted by Fortenc

To add to the fact that Chanters can resurrect they also have stronger heal-over-time abilities than the Cleric and, if diligent, can keep them up on all members of the group as they last for 40 seconds.

 

Very, very difficult to play a Chanter in PvP, the few snares you have are at the end of long combos and you probably won&apos;t be able to get them off on moving targets.

 

Finally Chanters press very few buttons as most of their attacks are long, elegant combos rather than providing many different attacks.


 

To back up my fellow chanters yes we can rezz & have very fast ... HoTs                      < heal  over  time > the matra buffs we are granted are invaluable and i love although we are only granted to have on 3 out of 4 matras at a time, although each race and class was given their own kind of love, we Chanters can still be a Sub-tank class w/ the shield an mace even though we are not a tank ... If need be !!!  Being that we can heal this makes us very dangerous tiny tanks. Back to the staff...  CRIT lovers "staff  is your only weapon of choice" @~~~~~~ The elegant love that is given to the chanter in my book is that we get to weear chain, an as for the combo&apos;s as were commented on agreed we can deal a great amout of DPS our skills are many but easy to master the speed of a lvl 19 Chanter&apos;s staff is GOD like. Most Chanter are of a "CRIT" base stat / mana stones 2nd comes accuracy & HP you will not find much need or use for more than 1 good size manastone of MP to be inside your armor!  "As a chanter Gains so much mana in lvling"... gear: at least 2 sets of weapons...  shield/mace  &  staff...... socket crits in staff and mana acc/shield in your mace/shield set .

< this is for grp party hunts >

or socket whatever you think works best 4 you...

BUT I FIND THIS TO WORK GOOD 4 ME!

Have played these games: Asheron's Call, Champions Online, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, EVE Online, Guild Wars, Lineage, Lord of the Rings Online, RF Online, Rohan: Blood Feud, Shaiya, Ultima Online, Warhammer, WoW and SC, BW, D1, Diablo 1 expantion, D2, D2x, Warcraft 2, & 3 !

Evolution8

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10/06/09 2:48:43 AM#10

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest

superpata

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10/06/09 3:14:34 AM#11

Might want to add that assassins do more than burst damage they are considered the best single target dpsers.

gkk1212

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"Kill`em All Let The Medics Sort 0ut The Body Parts"

10/06/09 3:19:05 AM#12
Originally posted by Evolution8

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest


 

noob.. go throw it away go back to WoW were you belong...

you can't deal with a game that needs intellect to play, not just pressing keys over an over you WoW players make me sick.

stay with your heads in the sand!

 

Have played these games: Asheron's Call, Champions Online, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, EVE Online, Guild Wars, Lineage, Lord of the Rings Online, RF Online, Rohan: Blood Feud, Shaiya, Ultima Online, Warhammer, WoW and SC, BW, D1, Diablo 1 expantion, D2, D2x, Warcraft 2, & 3 !

gkk1212

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"Kill`em All Let The Medics Sort 0ut The Body Parts"

10/06/09 3:26:09 AM#13
Originally posted by superpata

Might want to add that assassins do more than burst damage they are considered the best single target dpsers.


 

one of the best NOT the best  plus EVEN as at lvl 19  my chanter was dueling ninjas and killing them  less they were decked out in all crit and enchant stones as well as UB#R armor  an were not  Average players...!

a assasin does not and can not Even come close to being compared to a rogue in WoW that Cartoon game should be  disbanded ! good night  blizzard your raign of rule is gone on WoW !

get a better engine !!!

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Scot

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10/06/09 4:41:44 AM#14

Nice look at the classes, I found it informative and interesting. But please watch the grammar:

“They are actually rather sore when it comes to crowd control, since they are never meant to be that close to the action in the first place.”

You could say “Crowd control is a rather sore point for them, since they…”

superpata

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10/06/09 5:19:37 AM#15

Sorry but it is not one of the best, they are the best or so korean ppl say, this is at lvl 50. Till that lvl I personally did not find them that strong but you can check youtube videos of high end assassins grinding and compare them to the sorc/gladiator (and I do not mean burst dmg but continuous grind), you will be surprised. It is easy to understand: low hp and armor, no cc and snares, ability to do one and only one role, single target dps, in other words the most specialized class in aion.

 

GazMc

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10/06/09 5:26:12 AM#16
Originally posted by Stratford
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.

 

Yep.  Asia has yet to produce a fun MMORPG.  I'm always amazed how people keep flocking to them, and then leaving in hordes.  You'd think they'd learn a lesson, but nope, they just keep banging their heads against the wall.

 

Hmmm wish I'd known this earlier. Why oh why did i waste all that time with FFXI? I really wish you'd informed me that it wasn't fun before. /sarcasm off. Fun is subjective. Clearly you have simpler tastes. Thats not a bad thing, but please don't go bashing games that require a bit of skill and actual input to play....damn, i fed the troll didn't i?

vickies

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10/06/09 5:36:11 AM#17
Originally posted by gkk1212
Originally posted by Evolution8

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest


 

noob.. go throw it away go back to WoW were you belong...

you can't deal with a game that needs intellect to play, not just pressing keys over an over you WoW players make me sick.

stay with your heads in the sand!

 


 

Did you ever consider a personal control course?

And it was rather foolish of you to mix in WOW into the discussion of class design... Tank = tank in Aion. Don't think you will heal much in Aoin with the class discussed in the OP.  Perhaps too much "intellect" needed in game to restore the mana pool.

BizkitNL

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10/06/09 5:41:27 AM#18
Originally posted by gkk1212
Originally posted by Evolution8

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest


 

noob.. go throw it away go back to WoW were you belong...

you can't deal with a game that needs intellect to play, not just pressing keys over an over you WoW players make me sick.

stay with your heads in the sand!

 


 

Holy crap. That's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Aion needing intellect to play and not just pressing keys over and over?

What Aion are you playing exactly? Not the NCSoft one I reckon?

And be honest, mate. You came from WoW, looking at your /spit post (No offense to current WoW players). Don't kid yourself.

pre_mar

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10/06/09 5:58:36 AM#19
Originally posted by Evolution8

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest

 

Exactly, count me also. I enjoed up to around lv. 17 or 18  when discovered that otherwise pretty good guesting is over for good.  Starts classical korean grind trash playing. Ok, still few group quests that can not be soloed. And do not wish to spend hours for looking for group for exclusively group quests. Got there with 6 alts ... and now stopped permanently  to play once discovered this sad fact.

Some say there is at some levels for short still some questing ... but rest to end game it looks is pure grind.

pre_mar

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10/06/09 6:00:40 AM#20
Originally posted by gkk1212
Originally posted by Evolution8

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest


 

noob.. go throw it away go back to WoW were you belong...

you can't deal with a game that needs intellect to play, not just pressing keys over an over you WoW players make me sick.

stay with your heads in the sand!

 

 

Well ... your intellect must be pretty low then. Aion is after around lv. 18 pure grind fest ... you need 0 intelelct for this.

 

nate1980

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10/06/09 8:35:11 AM#21

I love all playstyles and a variety when I play a game, so I created all 8 classes and plan to level them up together. It will take a while, but the variety will be worth it along the way. Plus the game is meant to be played over a period of years, so maxing one character out in a month isn't a priority.

Guess that shows that I'm made for a sandbox game with a skill system instead of classes. I love being able to do a little bit of everything.

nate1980

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10/06/09 8:38:22 AM#22
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.


 

8 very different class choices is choices. Compare that to Fallen Earth which the community is raving about its skill system, and you only have about 4 real build choices in that game. I'd rather have the 8 classes, than 4 viable skill-based builds.

gkk1212

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"Kill`em All Let The Medics Sort 0ut The Body Parts"

10/06/09 8:58:34 AM#23
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by gkk1212
Originally posted by Evolution8

What will i be you ask?? I will be one of the thousands that throw it in the trash, damn korean grind fest


 

noob.. go throw it away go back to WoW were you belong...

you can't deal with a game that needs intellect to play, not just pressing keys over an over you WoW players make me sick.

stay with your heads in the sand!

 


 

Holy crap. That's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Aion needing intellect to play and not just pressing keys over and over?

What Aion are you playing exactly? Not the NCSoft one I reckon?

And be honest, mate. You came from WoW, looking at your /spit post (No offense to current WoW players). Don't kid yourself.


 

not kidding myself  of course  i played it in the passed they destroy it with the 2nd expansion...

as for when i said key  pressing .... meaning in DAoC and other games you had to think and use combo's  in WoW you do not!

 

BITE ME !

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grenademaste

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10/06/09 9:11:11 AM#24

 Good article for those that want to try Aion.

8 classes is well enough for Aion. You wont be bored with them. 

 

Rhoklaw

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10/06/09 9:59:16 AM#25

-Rangers-

One of the more interesting things to do with rangers is jump shooting. It is possible to run at full speed away from a target using jump turning to continually pour arrows into them. There are also a few issues with animation canceling on some of the casted shots, essentially removing the cast time and therefore allowing you to maintain your mobility.

The part about an issue with ranger animations strikes me as funny. So either all rangers are exploiting a broken game mechanic or its not an issue. I'm guessing the lack of animation while fighting was intentional due to the fact that if rangers couldn't move during combat, they would utterly suck. Just my opinion...

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