i alike many of us have a 13 hr a day job but i refuse to give up my mmo addiction but it seems that every new mmo isnt casual friendly. iv played alot of mmos and i can never really enjoy any of them unless i play for more than a few hrs i want to play a game where i can log on for 30 mins and accomplish something or play for 10 hrs and never get bored... i was thinking about a game like ragnarok online ... or maybe going back to ffxi or eve but i dont know how bad of an idea that will be . im open to try any games but it seems to me like im always stuck going back to wow and then i realise that i cant accomplish much in like 30 mins like i could on eve. so if anyone could help me with some recommendations they would be much appreciated.

btw id rather play a complex poor looking game like eq1 then something new like conan (epic fail)

also keep in mind games with alot of tradeskilling are good for casual play lol thx again

you want a casual but complex game like eq or ff11?ya, good luck.Also, the average person doesnt work 13 hours a day.find another job for the love of god.

maybe vanguard?or eq2?

thank you for the useless criticism

Some people have no choice about their current employment situation right now so it's not quite as easy as "find another job".

OP, try LOTRO. 

It's very casual, with good crafting, and very immersive.

They are getting ready to release an expansion and they've opened up the lifetime subscription for $199 USD again.  I purchased this at release and never looked back.  That was nearly 3 years ago so I am essentially palying the game for free if you figure it at the $9.99 monthly fee.  The best part is, I often work numerous hours like you do for weeks at a time, since I have no re-occurring monthly fee, I don't sweat it at all if I cannot get ingame for awhile.  I play when I can.

yes i did enjoy playing that for quite some time however i quickly lost interest in lotro i guess i just wasnt into the play style plus i play on a laptop now so im kinda limited graphics wise so it was a bit choppy

LOTRO is good suggestion.

DDO is even better. Why ?

Well firstly you pay no subscription. So you dont feel compelled to play.

Most dungeons take around 30 minutes to complete. Which always gives you feeling of acomplishing something with your game time. Its a group game (unlike most of today MMOs) sou you also get the social co operative fun as a bonus.

All in all DDO is perfect either as Casual game or aditional MMO

and btw im a paramedic i dont have a chpoice i would average 12 hrs a day or more

im actually downloading ddo atm lol good call i think ill try that but anyone else that has any other recommendations i much appreciate it , also does ddo have crafting?

Have you tried your hand at turn based strategy(TBS), or real time strategy(RTS) games?

Civ4(TBS), Galactic Civilizations 2(TBS), Age of Empires series(RTS), Command and Conquer(RTS), Sins of a Solar Empire(combo of both)

You can play as much or as little as you like and progress.  When you're out of time, save and pick up where you left off on your next play session.  None of them are too requirement intensive and can be played on a pretty basic set up.

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im actually downloading ddo atm lol good call i think ill try that but anyone else that has any other recommendations i much appreciate it , also does ddo have crafting?

I've not played DDO, but I'd have to imagine if you had trouble with LOTRO you'll have similar issues with DDO seeing as how they are run on the same engine.

I'd be interested to see how it works out for you.

If you think about it, report back and let us know.

yeah i actually have those games most of them they are fun for a while but i like games where i only control one character and where the world is everchanging lol i like crafting and leveling the only strategy game i really enjoyed was fftactics

i definately will i have like 3 weeks off in a few days so i wanna  get hooked on a new mmo before i realise im too broke to go on a real vacation lol

Guild Wars. Pay once and thats it. Solid game.

i like guild wars but i p;layed it for 2 years and the content got stale not much has changed

it seems like ddo will be casual enought  but still advanced enought to enjoy bc of the character creation and classing builds but anyone else that can possibly give some recommendations id really appreciate it i need something to play lol

I'd say play any game.

Just dont' expect to participate in every part of the game.

i just want a game that will be involved and complex not a grind fest and where it  matters in character build but dosent take forever to level

most people are looking for an all day event i just want something thats possible to accomplish something ina short periodof time even if that is crafting

If you want to play a game casual, I suggest you forget about Ragnarok Online and Final Fantasy XI. Both are great games, but neither is very casual friendly.

I suggest you try Lord of the Rings Online and World of Warcraft. Both offer a great experience for casual players.

Dungeons & Dragons Online is also a good game but keep in mind, there is a lot of instancing in it.
I also heard that Runes of Magic is also pretty casual friendly.

yeah wow i played for a long time so im trying to avoid going back to that and lotro felt almost the same im currently fooling around with ddo but im not too sure yet i wish there were more choices or atleast more sandbox games out there

DDO is good for what your looking for. 

To me to play casual I don't want to pay monthly.

 I also enjoyed Runes of Magic, the crafting system not all that great but there is one, along with harvesting.

Go back to eq1. With a supply of plat you can buy a tank or a healer bot and it makes it that much easier to play.

Eq1 is wide open enough that it's the ultimate choose your own adventure.

I personally would disagree on ddo as a casual choice as the game is primarily centered around group play.

Also in regards to age of conan, if you haven't tried it lately, they have made great strides in the game. It has a well built graphical engine that should behave on your laptop.

Never played DDO, so I'm not sure there - However I can recommend City of Heroes and Champions online (although Champions is new so lacking in content and also I'm not sure if it would run on your laptop, City of Heroes should be fine on your laptop though:))

No crafting in DDO.  Sorry.

But its as complex game as it gets. Lots of way to build character, multiclass, different weapon choices...you name it.

Runes of Magic is good if you want free traditional MMO experience. Its like free WOW.

I play both games. Ocasionally. When i dont play TF2 or some single player RPG

Thats good side of F2P. Play when and how much you want.