Originally posted by Forumfall

No matter how nice I like a character name at start, at some point it will annoy me.

 

Some people might pass on their account to friends/family and as such they would want a namechange. Or people that simply swap their accounts with someone to experience a different highlvl char. Same goes with ebayers that want a fresh name on the acc they bought. I think it's a great possibility. You better live with it.

Buying accounts really doesnt make for a strong case in allowing people to change names...

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Oh come on, I was just kidding when I told you I wanted to sniff the cushions after you sat on them.... will you never let me live that down?....

    we're still friends right? 

I heard some wimmens are in here.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by Rajen

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by Rajen

Originally posted by Gameloading

This can be fixed very easily by having the ignore or block list change along with the name.

 

 

This is definitely what should be done...

 

So in order to know who they are you have to go look them up in your ignore list and see all their names listed?

This would make it very difficult on large guilds, and is not worth the hassle because peaches wants to change his name to chuck. This can easily be solved by stating " are you happy with this name? Hope so because your stuck with it!" at the time of creation. a hellofalot less trouble.

 

 

 

You wouldn't have to look them up would you? If they are already on the list they shouldn't be able to respond to you or talk to you...

yes, you would have to look them up everytime your guild gets a new application. Yes you would hav to look them up and post all of their alias's everytime they changed their name and update blacklists, creating a buttload of confusion to bounty hunters that have split seconds to decide whether or not their  is a bounty on their heads.
 

This would create a royal pain in the ass for guild, merc and bounty hunters. before you could trade with anyone new, you would have to check this long list of alias..  and for what reason? because  some idiot misnamed themselves? lol

This is all just in game DRAMA! You are afraid to mute those ass hats cause you are afraid you might miss some tidbit of drama unfold. You make drama for yourself then expect changes to be a pain in the ass to everyone else just to create more drama. So to satisfy your drama addiction you expect everyone else should go threw some tedious hoop jumping.

Online worlds are huge. It is very easy to ignore a person...if you want to.

Originally posted by Illius

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Oh come on, I was just kidding when I told you I wanted to sniff the cushions after you sat on them.... will you never let me live that down?....

    we're still friends right? 

LOL !
 

Originally posted by talismen351

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by Rajen

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by Rajen

Originally posted by Gameloading

This can be fixed very easily by having the ignore or block list change along with the name.

 

 

This is definitely what should be done...

 

So in order to know who they are you have to go look them up in your ignore list and see all their names listed?

This would make it very difficult on large guilds, and is not worth the hassle because peaches wants to change his name to chuck. This can easily be solved by stating " are you happy with this name? Hope so because your stuck with it!" at the time of creation. a hellofalot less trouble.

 

 

 

You wouldn't have to look them up would you? If they are already on the list they shouldn't be able to respond to you or talk to you...

yes, you would have to look them up everytime your guild gets a new application. Yes you would hav to look them up and post all of their alias's everytime they changed their name and update blacklists, creating a buttload of confusion to bounty hunters that have split seconds to decide whether or not their  is a bounty on their heads.
 

This would create a royal pain in the ass for guild, merc and bounty hunters. before you could trade with anyone new, you would have to check this long list of alias..  and for what reason? because  some idiot misnamed themselves? lol

 

This is all just in game DRAMA! You are afraid to mute those ass hats cause you are afraid you might miss some tidbit of drama unfold. You make drama for yourself then expect changes to be a pain in the ass to everyone else just to create more drama. So to satisfy your drama addiction you expect everyone else should go threw some tedious hoop jumping.

Online worlds are huge. It is very easy to ignore a person...if you want to.

Obviously, you know nothing about me, I avoid drama like the plague.  I do not mute the asshats because I want to see them coming, I want to make sure they don;t screw any of my friends over, and that if I see them being asshats to someone else I can let them know what is up so they too can steer clear.

You may feel that online worlds are huge, but i have found just the opposite. This is about one players noncontentment with a name they chose vs the entire player reputation system, bounties, mercs and guilds. Why should all of the mercs, bounty hunters and guild have to change just to suit some dumbass who couldn't decide on a name they liked the first time?

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Why would any game want to allow for change of username? It is the worst  Idea I have ever heard.

Being a girl in an mmo and constantly stalked by creeps, it is hard enough to keep them at bay, this type of system only allows for them to be able to be an ass for years then go change their name and follow you around more.  Are they trying to run women off? is that what this is supposed to be a " girl repellant for games"

Who thinks of these stupid ideas?!!

Just pretend to be a Guy, since 75% of male players play Female characters anyway

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Why would any game want to allow for change of username? It is the worst  Idea I have ever heard.

Being a girl in an mmo and constantly stalked by creeps, it is hard enough to keep them at bay, this type of system only allows for them to be able to be an ass for years then go change their name and follow you around more.  Are they trying to run women off? is that what this is supposed to be a " girl repellant for games"

Who thinks of these stupid ideas?!!

 

Just pretend to be a Guy, since 75% of male players play Female characters anyway

I would sound like a pretty funny guy on vent. LOL
 

Originally posted by Caleveira

Originally posted by Forumfall

No matter how nice I like a character name at start, at some point it will annoy me.

 

Some people might pass on their account to friends/family and as such they would want a namechange. Or people that simply swap their accounts with someone to experience a different highlvl char. Same goes with ebayers that want a fresh name on the acc they bought. I think it's a great possibility. You better live with it.

 

Buying accounts really doesnt make for a strong case in allowing people to change names...

Yea, this will be primarily used to wipe the reputation system and for account sellers.

I do not see this as a positive thing for the entire system. Not only does it cause confusion in guild member lists, bounty lists, blacklists, and provide stalkers, scammers, keyloggers a cloak to hide behind, and completely screw up the reputation system, it will be used to rename accounts after they are purchased.
 

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Why would any game want to allow for change of username? It is the worst  Idea I have ever heard.

Being a girl in an mmo and constantly stalked by creeps, it is hard enough to keep them at bay, this type of system only allows for them to be able to be an ass for years then go change their name and follow you around more.  Are they trying to run women off? is that what this is supposed to be a " girl repellant for games"

Who thinks of these stupid ideas?!!

 

Just pretend to be a Guy, since 75% of male players play Female characters anyway

I would sound like a pretty funny guy on vent. LOL
 

Lol, i wouldn't be in vent with people i didnt really know anyway, if its your guilds vent, then why are you still in there if people want to stalk you?

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Why would any game want to allow for change of username? It is the worst  Idea I have ever heard.

Being a girl in an mmo and constantly stalked by creeps, it is hard enough to keep them at bay, this type of system only allows for them to be able to be an ass for years then go change their name and follow you around more.  Are they trying to run women off? is that what this is supposed to be a " girl repellant for games"

Who thinks of these stupid ideas?!!

 

Just pretend to be a Guy, since 75% of male players play Female characters anyway

I would sound like a pretty funny guy on vent. LOL
 

Lol, i wouldn't be in vent with people i didnt really know anyway, if its your guilds vent, then why are you still in there if people want to stalk you?

Every decent pvp guild any type of coordinated pvp uses vent. I guess you do not pvp much. PVP is all I enjoy .. that is why I am there.
 

No player or guild should be able to change its name. Server changes should be allowed but on a limited basis, like all your avatars but only once per month to stop server hopping.

 It won't change and sure some people will use it to avoid their reputation but you can count on their behaviour to show who they really are.  I've seen that alot way back in Everquest with numerous people.

One dude spent his entire time kill stealing, and training people out of spots he wanted.  Upon reaching 50th he soon learned that nobody would group with him and he couldn't get into the planes to get the end game gear.  Suddenly theres a new guy around with the exact same gear he had but different name pretending to be someone else.

I've also seen people claim to have bought accounts because the old owner had such a bad rep.  So they pretend to be a new owner.  This worked for a time since he'd act nice and the gullible bastards on the server fell for it although I called bullshit from day 1 and people constantly told me to lay off the guy.  In the end I was right it was the same guy.

I also used it to get back at someone I didn't like in game.  His character name was well known, he was in the resident uber guild, but it was also a copyrighted name something EQ didn't allow.  So I petitioned the GM's about the dudes name.  The GM's show up in the middle of that guild raiding Plane of Fear and forcefully change his name and a couple of his guildmates get suspended having temper tantrums over it lol.

This whole thread is nothing but a glaring example of what happens when a self-obsessed person comes in contact with the attention-starved.  

You made yourself into a victim, and it's blatantly obvious that you are more content to play that card, than actually get anything resolved and move on with your life.  Tell your friends to not give out RL info about you, for one, because that is just goddamn fucking retarded.  But if you absolutely feel you need to be the ePrincess of the eParty, then be prepared for the consequences. 

When someone calls you, and talks about how you look as your sleeping...or describes what they moved in your apartment while you weren't there, to prove they were in there...then talk to me about stalking.  This little imaginary pity-party you stirred up here will do nothing, but feed you more attention.  You're scared of this guy, but need to know if he's spreading eGossip about you? 

Grow up, before you get a real freak after you, and it's worse than you think it is now.

Right. Exactly. After we ban changing your name (because we all now in real life this is illegal and criminals can abolish their crimes by changing names), we should remove the ability to create a new charracters, which could be uset to harass you. To further protect you from frequent harassment, we should also remove the ability to create a charracter in the first place. Who needs them, they are only the source of all wrongdoing, all in-game harassment problems are commited by charracters. Then finally we should be safe playing games. Yay.

More self appointed game police telling everyone else what should or should not be 'allowed' by game companies.

Hang up your badge, sister.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by deviliscious

the solution is NO name changes, if they want to change their name for cosmetic reasons later they are free to create a new account, as they always have. just put a warning on their account when they create their character. simple as that. That way they know  they are going to have to live with whatever they decide.

 Why punish the other players for a mistake some kid made?

 

I am pissed about this tbh. I have had a guy from a game drive by my house. I have good reason to be. I didn;t give him my address.
 

Now I have to be honest here, why should other players be forced to make a new character just to change their name when you are the only one having this issue? Doesn't it seem unfair? Beside, wouldn't you benefit the most from a name change? (Might as well say identity change). And even if this certain person is not able to change his name, he can still make new characters so the issue has not been fixed.

If you truly have issues with a stalker and he has come to your house in real life, they you should technically be allowed to report this to the police and request them to get the player info from the said game company in order to file a restraining order against the man. This is perfectly legal and much safer. 

I understand the high level issue you currently have but you seem to be mixing Virtual Life and Real Life. If he met you in real life and reporting him to the police is not enough, file a restraining order for your own safety. If the man keeps stalking you in game, report his account to the said game company and also show them proof of the restraining order against him as this will most likely cause this man to have either his account or IP permanently banned.

Punishing all players for an issue (as major as it is) only felt by a very low minority is just silly.

Merry Christmas ..... oh wait.... I mean....Happy Holidays..... (see what I did there?)

 Back in the day it probably made a little more sense not to. But today with communities beign so big a player is rarely black listed and can do whatever they like without getting banned by a GM or having their gameplay effected by not getting a group. Sure, some may nto play with them but for the most part people continue to give anyone a group.

 The argument that people should be able to change their names because they don't like it is really irrelevant. I can't name one person who has done a name change because they do not like their name. I imagine the bulk of people doing it come from account buyers.

 So does it matter either way? Not really, I could care less. So why shouldn't a company make more money off people to help further the game you play in?

Originally posted by deviliscious

Why? Because part of long term playing of an MMORPG is a player reputation based on how they treat other players in the game. It allows some guy to be a creep, stalk you all over a game then be able to go change their name and come after you again attempt to regain trust only to stalk you more.

Why would any game want to allow for change of username? It is the worst  Idea I have ever heard.

Being a girl in an mmo and constantly stalked by creeps, it is hard enough to keep them at bay, this type of system only allows for them to be able to be an ass for years then go change their name and follow you around more.  Are they trying to run women off? is that what this is supposed to be a " girl repellant for games"

Who thinks of these stupid ideas?!!

 I think your full of sh_0 about the stalking. For one you can report them to the police If it is really serious. Two you can contact the game company who will ban teh account ... no name change there ... just a new account maybe. Third ... holy shit , you can change your own name! Four , if it is really serious ... quit the friggin game.

 Drove by your house? Did he stop or wave?

...what a crock.

The OP's proposal has another major flaw:  Games that allow multiple alts.

WoW allows 10 per server, 50 per account, while Aion allows 8 per server and per account.

Therefore, banning one toon does nothing unless the whole account is banned, because they can simply make another alt. 

Being one can buy an account for cheap, even banning is no real fix.  This is how gold sellers and spammers do it.

Banning of an account is probably not going to happen, unless the 'crime" was very egregious.  Griefing usually doesn't warrant account banning, though individual toons can get suspended or banned.

Likewise User Names are for account access and have nothing to do with what a character is named.  I suppose the OP would want to demand a person's password so she can access the account and delete the offending toon(s)?

Lastly, how do they know the OP is really a girl in RL?  They don't.  Given that many guys make female toons, and everyone knows this, the only way the OP can be in this postion is if she has divulged personal information about herself to others in the game.   I have female toons in several games as well as male toons, and they never get stalked or hit on regardless of gender.  If the OP is having these problems, it is most likely because she is inviting these problems through her own actions.

Originally posted by Korhindi

 

Lastly, how do they know the OP is really a girl in RL?  They don't.  Given that many guys make female toons, and everyone knows this, the only way the OP can be in this postion is if she has divulged personal information about herself to others in the game.   I have female toons in several games as well as male toons, and they never get stalked or hit on regardless of gender.  If the OP is having these problems, it is most likely because she is inviting these problems through her own actions.

It was stated that the said stalker had found pictures of deviliscious during a party that was posted on her guild's forum.

Your problem seems to be more gender related than actually being a problem at all. Like everyone else said you put them on ignore. Now I know being a woman and all you have to know what everyone is saying about you at every possible moment. However this problem won't be fixed because you won't fix it.

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

Originally posted by Korhindi

 

Lastly, how do they know the OP is really a girl in RL?  They don't.  Given that many guys make female toons, and everyone knows this, the only way the OP can be in this postion is if she has divulged personal information about herself to others in the game.   I have female toons in several games as well as male toons, and they never get stalked or hit on regardless of gender.  If the OP is having these problems, it is most likely because she is inviting these problems through her own actions.

 

It was stated that the said stalker had found pictures of deviliscious during a party that was posted on her guild's forum.

This proves my point.  She divulged personal info.

Why was she posting pictures of herself on the guild's forum in the first place?

At this point it is not about MMO's having creeps, it is about the Internet having creeps.  After, all, no has been stalked from Facebook, Myspace or any of that have they?

If she is going to post pics of herself, and links to other sites, then banning an account won't save her, for anyone can visit a website (and see the pics) and then choose to be a creep.  This completely destroys her argument

So basicly the OP wants to have the game company hold her hand and she doesnt have to lift a finger.

Yah im calling bullsh*t on the OP story . Had yet mention the games name to help warn the other female players here and no mention on the stalkers in game name.

yah bull please stop QQ over something you wish happened so you can have a little more drama in your unpopular RL

It simply amazes me.. wow.  First, this is not just about my personal expierances in games, or about other people posting pics from a guild party of me on my guild site. This affects more than just girls being stalked by creeps. It ruins the ENTIRE player reputation system, and should never be implemented in any tyoe of role playing or PVP atmosphere .

I do not see this as a positive thing for the entire system. Not only does

 it cause confusion in guild member lists, bounty lists, blacklists, and

provide stalkers, scammers, keyloggers a cloak to hide behind, and

completely screw up the reputation system, it will be used to rename

accounts after they are purchased from 3rd party RMT.

PS. to the trolls who are more concerned about my personal life than the actual topic here,  get some reading glasses before you make statements that make you sound like an idiot. 1. guildmates posted pics from the party that I attended, other people took them. 2. Not only have I had to involve police and GM's in these matters I have had to deal with this on this site as well, and had to involve Admin from this site. 3. this is not just a stalking issue, this is an entire reputation system issue. It affects more than just people being stalked, and you people who blame women for being stalked, you have issues..