I really wanted to belive that it would work but as of 5 min ago chat is worse than ever

every other chat is a gold/PL spam  so sad the only way to get away from it is to /L or /p

I mean come on, with a game of this size, how hard can it be to have GM on 24hrs a day to monitor the chat and auto-ban the spammers ?   I mean hire someone make them sit in a chair for 8 hours shift and their job is simply right click the spammer and scroll to the ban option, not hard, not hard at all.

You kids are getting your hopes up too early.

Keep up teh good work?

Really?

Which work is that?

The work that they didn't add /ignore option when you rightclick someone's name so I have to type the silly faceroll names these muppets have? the random letters I have to decifer and waste my game time?

How about making the /ignore and /block function actually work?

Becuase it doesn't, I still keep seeing the spam in LFG channel from the names I have on my block list.

Few GMs went on a PR stunt and all you cheer like silly morons?

here's the only way this game will ever get rid of RMT:

DONT MAKE A  MMO THAT IS EXTREMELY HEAVILY DEPENDANT ON INGAME CURRENCY YOU IDIOTS!

I guess it's too late now to talk common sense now is it.

Aion is RMT heaven because of the grindy nature and micro transactions ingame for every fuckin item that is a must in PVP.

Enjoy your Lineage 3 you braindead zombies heh, I'm outta here.

nha ,believe me guys the junker are really hurt now they  show off a show of force by making us believe it doesnt work

but i can say it does work ,but it will take a while to calm down gold seller ,remember most of those guys are pissed off at us and at ncsoft for trying to remove their hard earned $

some make a living of gaming like this so when company do stuff like ncsoft did

the gold seller react very badly .

 Every single MMO has a big banning campaign not long after release. The question is if they keep it up.

Banning them is not going to work because they will just keep comming back. I think they should not allow any messages with www. or .com in the general chat channes. Maybe make one type of channel that allows people to type domain names and monitor that channel for Gold Spammers. That way you are not forced to see the spam messages in general chat.

This issue isn't resolved, this is a screenshot just taken not too long ago, I haven't put them on ignore to see how long the GMs havent touched them, its been awhile. This is beyond ridiculous to me.Its constant btw

 I tried blocking them, you need to block a new spammer every 2-3 minutes or so. They are catching a lot of people with a "go to this website" that looks similar to aions, then of course keylogging their account information and in turn using those accounts.

Originally posted by BadMedicine

 Every single MMO has a big banning campaign not long after release. The question is if they keep it up.

I have to agree with this, honestly. This isn't anything new, just a PR stunt to instill confidence in the playerbase. The GM effectiveness always..... *always* drops off after a week or two.

We'll see what happens here though.

Originally posted by Mannish

Its good to see they are at least doing something.

They're not really doing anything about it. Banning a few for PR is about all they did. Two hours later the channels are clogged again and NCSoft taking no action. I cancelled today. The game isn't good enough to have to deal with the spam and the farm bots.

Originally posted by Terranah

It's a start so they should be commended. 

Now while I dont currently play aion the problem with gold spammers is universal. I should think by the time a game comes out of beta in this day and age that a dev team dedicated to getting rid of spammers and botters would have a full suite of heavily tested options to nip this problem in the bud. It shouldnt "start" post release but should be their and ready to go way in advance of release. I am also curious if they are just banning characters or if the whole account goes bye bye. Because banning just a single character on an account would do really nothing.

As to some other comments on wny a dev would not continue banning gold sellers. Gold sellers continued purchasing of accounts is a source of income for a game. In addition there is that segment of the population that buys the gold and gold sellers help prop that population up in a game. All in all the developers try to toe the line between their primary customers who hate the gold sellers and that percentage of accounts that feed of the sellers. Most do a horrible job not realising how much money they lose by people fleeing games with gold sellers and botters.

I think Eve's idea has the most merit overall. It wont directly translate to most games, however, with some creativity something could be figured out. That is allow individuals the ability to buy time cards and sell those time cards to other players in game for in game cash. You get the people who can then find a way to play a game in which it might otherwise be too expensive for them and you get to satisfy those players who need to buy gold with RL dollars all the while the game company loses nothing. You can then make gold selling unprofitable and they hopefully move onto another game.

Originally posted by Aguitha

I mean come on, with a game of this size, how hard can it be to have GM on 24hrs a day to monitor the chat and auto-ban the spammers ?   I mean hire someone make them sit in a chair for 8 hours shift and their job is simply right click the spammer and scroll to the ban option, not hard, not hard at all.

This. There's no way that sales can be that profitable to support spending 50 bucks every few minutes for new spam accounts. Makes it kinda obvious that the accounts don't get banned, and it's not much of  a stretch to assume they are owned by NCSoft.

It takes all of 15 minutes or less to get a toon to level 5 to be able to spam chat channels.  Go sit in the newb town on the starter island and watch as they run by leveling to 5 after they get banned.  Then follow them, many don't even leave the island.

If I had to do a temporary fix at least for me I would have made separate chat channels for lvl 20 up. What I mean is that once you get to lvl 20 you only can see chats of people lvl 20 up or at least if it's harder that way chats from lvl 20 maps and up.

Originally posted by Mannish

Banning them is not going to work because they will just keep comming back. I think they should not allow any messages with www. or .com in the general chat channes. Maybe make one type of channel that allows people to type domain names and monitor that channel for Gold Spammers. That way you are not forced to see the spam messages in general chat.

i think your proposed solution here is far too simplistic:

you can write domain names in a plethora of different ways W _W_W doT C o M, etc.

-> one possible solution could involve Bayesian filtering, but here the processing overhead has to be evaluated.

 Well i think we can all agree that no matter what NCsoft, or any other game company for that matter, does, it's never going to completely go away, as long as they make a little effort and theres a little less of an annoyance I'm fine with whatever quick fix they come up with.

As long as players have no fear of retribution for buying currency there will always be demand for it.  The only reason gold sellers spam is because it is effective.

Put the fear of a ban into the players and you decrease the demand for the currency.  As long as there is enough money to be made then the spammers will just return.

Originally posted by Daffid011

As long as players have no fear of retribution for buying currency there will always be demand for it.  The only reason gold sellers spam is because it is effective.

Put the fear of a ban into the players and you decrease the demand for the currency.  As long as there is enough money to be made then the spammers will just return.

 

 

Exactly.  There needs to be consequences for the powerlevel / gold purchaser as well as the seller.

Originally posted by Benjola

You kids are getting your hopes up too early.

Keep up teh good work?

Really?

Which work is that?

The work that they didn't add /ignore option when you rightclick someone's name so I have to type the silly faceroll names these muppets have? the random letters I have to decifer and waste my game time?

How about making the /ignore and /block function actually work?

Becuase it doesn't, I still keep seeing the spam in LFG channel from the names I have on my block list.

Few GMs went on a PR stunt and all you cheer like silly morons?

here's the only way this game will ever get rid of RMT:

DONT MAKE A  MMO THAT IS EXTREMELY HEAVILY DEPENDANT ON INGAME CURRENCY YOU IDIOTS!

I guess it's too late now to talk common sense now is it.

Aion is RMT heaven because of the grindy nature and micro transactions ingame for every fuckin item that is a must in PVP.

Enjoy your Lineage 3 you braindead zombies heh, I'm outta here.

Owned.....

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Originally posted by wardog250
Thank God, is all I have to say! The other night I was on there and the spam was flooding the chat channel so bad no one could talk.

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I retract this. I logged on today to see every chat channel being completely flooded so badly they cannot even be used. Sure I can sit there and block them; but, they just change their names and start flooding again, not to mention fill you mail box full if junk. Also recently they started the task of phishing. Attempting to lure people to malicious websites trying to make it look like an official message from Aion.

This game is in some serious pain right now and until they knock this #1 complaint out the problem will just keep getting worse.

The servers have been crashing all night, I am betting the none stop spam is contributing to it.

Today the chat channel was so filled with gold selling spam on my server as to render it completely useless.  I can hardly read the gold spam before it's replaces by the next gold spammer.  It is detracting from the game experience.  They need to have someone on duty to ban these guys accounts immediately.  It seems like this would be an entry level position, not too expensive to implement, but I don't know.

Ehh... wouldn't get myself excited over this just yet.

Anyone who's played Lineage 1 or, especially, Lineage 2 for any amount of time will know NCSoft's routine all too well.

They'll come down hard on RMT, make all these grand statements about how they're against it in their game, bring down the ban hammer once or twice... a couple weeks later, you'll be wondering what happened as the botters and RMT are running rampant again... Some months later (typically before a major update, at least in L2), they'll do the routine again.

A recent round of it in L2 was them adding an insta-report button... people used it and GMs seemed to be responding, banning the botters reported. A week or two later and people were basically wondering why they bothered putting the button in in the first place as the GMs went back into their holes, letting the botters/rmt run rampant again...

 Give it a couple weeks and see if they're still as gung-ho about banning them as they claim to be now.

Not trying to be a downer... I was a big fan of L2 (and still am... as a game), but NCSoft's notorious among L1 and L2 players for being a joke when it comes to dealing with RMT/botters in those games, except for the occasional PR routine.

Maybe I'll be wrong this time and they'll have finally gotten a clue with Aion... but... only time will tell.

Too early to eradicate the problem. A problem that follows all successful MMOs. It took other companies months, if not years to eradicate the spam at least (I don't think it's possible to eradicate the gold selling), so I don't expect immediate results here either.

I'd like to see an addon such as SpamSentry (for WoW) which eliminates the gold spammers' text messages from the channels.

Don't let the BS fool you.  These gamemasters are completely impotent when it comes to putting an end to these spammers.  It is a fact that the gold spammers in-game are getting much, MUCH worse as the game progresses, and one gamemaster showing up in-game to ban 3 or 4 accounts is hardly worth cheering over.

What you don't see in the screenshot is the gold spammer breaking out another account and continuing to spam.  Moreso, now the gold spammers are running multiple bots spamming for the same website, to include instant-spamming the /3 LFG global channel where there is supposed to be a 30 second delay between uses.

Aion is the definition of game fail, in my opinion, and anyone with half a brain would be wise to avoid the game at all costs.  (And it is definitely not worth paying $50 or more for.)

But if you like spending several hundred hours gathering resources at nodes throughout the game world, to increase your crafting skill by a pathetic measly few points (while spending insane amounts of money at the same time), if you like being forced into anonymous status so that none of your friends can see you online just to avoid the spammers, if you like having to turn off your whispers so that you won't know if any of your friends whisper you to see if you ARE online, if you like having to stop what you're doing to block yet another gold spammer in General, Class, LFG, and even /say chat, if you enjoy waiting in line for up to 4 hours just to get into the game in the first place, if you look forward to game client crashes that are more frequent than troll flames on forums, if you like killing monsters and getting 0.00001% of your level's requirement of experience to advance (beginning at the half-way point of the level range of the game), if you enjoy getting killed by groups of enemy realm players while you're trying to level up, if you like mind-numbingly repetitive arguments in-game about how World of Warcrap is better than Aion and MANY other "dead horse" topics, if you like having to squint, turn your character, zoom the camera, and otherwise move the User Interface around so you can ACTUALLY READ the chat given the transparent background and terrible in-game fonts, and if you enjoy patronizing games where the gamemasters are utterly unconcerned with the majority of the player's concerns, and are absolutely impotent when it comes to stopping the biggest source of harassment online games have ever seen, by all means, play Aion.

The game is total garbage, but hey, you get to fly.

The game has issues, yes. But you're one of those guys that describe a hair as a rope.