Originally posted by jpaprocki

 Haven't played the game and don't plan to so I will only comment on one thing that I knew would be there without playing it, the grinding.  People whine and complain about it and actually act surprised when they find they have to grind mobs to level.  I'm guessing those same individuals have never played an Asian MMO before.  I have never seen one that didn't involve grinding.  They enjoy doing that over there, more so than western players.  Not to say nobody here does, but not near as many.

It may be more polished than most grinders, but no matter how much polish it has, in the end, it's still nothing more than another grinder with the same Asian character models and grinding.  If you don't mind that kind of thing, then I would try it.  From what I hear from friends, it's the best one to hit the US yet.

 

Since when is doing quests grinding? I think a lot of people have lost the meaning of what a grind really is.

Originally posted by dstar.

Originally posted by Hrothmund

I agree with many people here. I am a level 35 ranger now and the game is just, well boring, and I feel like the only reason to play is the leveing grind, which is'nt exactly a motivation.

 

Same reason I've put the game down.  I took a break beginning on Monday and I haven't logged in since then, and I haven't really had the desire to either.

Same here. I found myself playing the game just because I had bought it, not because I really wanted to play it. So I cancelled subscription and felt relieved. Playing this game made me feel like wearing a corset.

Originally posted by lev-27

Originally posted by Leucent

I agree with everything here and more. Boring gameplay, linear as hell, KSing, no pvp till 25, could fall asleep fighting(click a skill, then another, oh look a combo skill, over and over), terrible kid like sounds, nothing new in the least. Before i got to any of these gripes, I couldn t get past the boredom.

 

You just described every MMORPG on the market. I guess this genre not you cup of tea. Play something else instead and get out.

very constructive fanboi :)

Originally posted by ezduzit

Originally posted by Greeve11

Rather disappointed with the game, for many reason but most importantly-

1. The leveling. After 20 theres no doubt about it quests become rare and the XP is lacking even from the ones you run into. Grinding isn't necessarily my thing. Though someone can argue that grinding mobs is no different than grinding quests but straight grinding is monotonous.

2. Crafting and gathering. The game almost makes me feel like I need to level these two, and when it came down to it I had 200 Iron Ore that took nearly 30 minutes (Or more) to smelt into bars. There's an issue there. I've also heard of people spending over four hours just doing work orders to level their craft. This doesn't settle well with me. The drop rate on required fluxes is unsettling as well. I've had to drop over 100k Kinah on Fluxes just for a shot at making a blue item, just a shot...

3. Bag room/space. Very lacking and you're expected to pay mass amounts of Kinah to expand your cube. My bags are always full because of the gathering materials/gems I'm always picking up while leveling.

4. Certain mechanics. In my opinion some abilities need to be taken off the GCD. Like a Gladiator's Crippling Cut for example. Sprint causes my character to fly across the screen occasionally (Well, more than that) when used. Ranger's Stunning shot deals 200-400 damage but I've have it crit over 1k. There was another post about this I believe. Random numbers are random and don't make sense.

5. Queues. I'm not into waiting 2 hours or more to get into the game. I'm not sure why they opened with so few servers, especially with the game being out for a while in Asia.

6. Channels in the 1-10 and 11-20 zones but none for the zones above that? It's hard enough to muster the intention of grinding, but when I do I have to worry about large masses of people all over doing the same.

7. Gold spam. This is out of hand. And I need to log onto their main site to place in a ticket! This is ridiculous. I can block all the spammers I want but it seems like theres an army of them.

8. Lag. Constant disconnections are happening left and right for many players. Once again, with the game being out for some time you would imagine they have a pretty hefty revenue to make the game smooth and solid, but apparently not. The other night the server randomly came down without word as well, which will also lead me to my next point

9. Communication. When the server went down we received no word at all on the status of our server for 4 hours. When word finally came out, it was a Twitter update. This is very- VERY poor communication with customers. Forums were packed with threads and no one knew what was going on at all because after a certain point we couldn't even see the server lists. Another issue is there are no updates on the launch client. Nothing at all. When servers are down for maintenance.. I wouldn't know. It would just tell me I couldn't connect to the servers and kick me off the game. This causes a lot of confusion. Lastly, petitions need to be carried out through their website- wtf? I begin to wonder if they even have any game masters at all.

10. As mentioned earlier. No in-game support.

11. Chat. The opacity and font cannot be changed which is a bother for me as I find the text to be far too large and even with my chat filtered I find it difficult to keep up with legion/party/whisper chats. The lack of a command list irks me as well.

12. Triggered emotes- these are just annoying...

13. Oh screw it, you get the point. I won't be returning until serious changes are made.

I dont believe a word you say. I havent played Aion but i look forward to it. I bet you work for Blizzard. Really! You probably work for Bliz
 

sure boy he works for the cia too, they want to destroy ncsoft and have nothing else to do

/sarcasm off

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by dstar.

Originally posted by Hrothmund

I agree with many people here. I am a level 35 ranger now and the game is just, well boring, and I feel like the only reason to play is the leveing grind, which is'nt exactly a motivation.

 

Same reason I've put the game down.  I took a break beginning on Monday and I haven't logged in since then, and I haven't really had the desire to either.

 

Same here. I found myself playing the game just because I had bought it, not because I really wanted to play it. So I cancelled subscription and felt relieved. Playing this game made me feel like wearing a corset.

I also cancelled my subscription for pretty much this reason. I've tried to get into the game, but it really is just grinding. Some people keep saying "Its not grinding, I've done quests all the way through - you must be doing something wrong!" - Well they are missing the point.

Almost every quest is a grind in this game outside of the campaign quests. In other games, these "kill 10 monsters" are filler quests - in this game the "kill 10 monsters" is the core of the game. Its just not interesting. I can only assume that those that love the game have just blasted through those parts in the hope that the next bit is good, then perhaps the next bit after that.

Its not a terrible game, but this game is really for people who love MMOs and love to grind. For the normal folks they will have stopped playing within a month or two. This game has no X-Factor and I guess that can only be expected when they don't try to offer anything new.

The long wait for a great MMO continues...

Originally posted by NinjaGaz

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by dstar.

Originally posted by Hrothmund

I agree with many people here. I am a level 35 ranger now and the game is just, well boring, and I feel like the only reason to play is the leveing grind, which is'nt exactly a motivation.

 

Same reason I've put the game down.  I took a break beginning on Monday and I haven't logged in since then, and I haven't really had the desire to either.

 

Same here. I found myself playing the game just because I had bought it, not because I really wanted to play it. So I cancelled subscription and felt relieved. Playing this game made me feel like wearing a corset.

 

I also cancelled my subscription for pretty much this reason. I've tried to get into the game, but it really is just grinding. Some people keep saying "Its not grinding, I've done quests all the way through - you must be doing something wrong!" - Well they are missing the point.

Almost every quest is a grind in this game outside of the campaign quests. In other games, these "kill 10 monsters" are filler quests - in this game the "kill 10 monsters" is the core of the game. Its just not interesting. I can only assume that those that love the game have just blasted through those parts in the hope that the next bit is good, then perhaps the next bit after that.

Its not a terrible game, but this game is really for people who love MMOs and love to grind. For the normal folks they will have stopped playing within a month or two. This game has no X-Factor and I guess that can only be expected when they don't try to offer anything new.

The long wait for a great MMO continues...

You may want to not look for MMOs period. I can't think of one MMO that doesn't have quests to level up.  I take that back...in Warhammer you can level without questing. But that is assuming others are PVPing.  What other MMO's have you enjoyed?
 

I´m having a blast. lvl 30  today. Tons of quest and fun content=)

Originally posted by Lathander81

Originally posted by NinjaGaz

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by dstar.

Originally posted by Hrothmund

I agree with many people here. I am a level 35 ranger now and the game is just, well boring, and I feel like the only reason to play is the leveing grind, which is'nt exactly a motivation.

 

Same reason I've put the game down.  I took a break beginning on Monday and I haven't logged in since then, and I haven't really had the desire to either.

 

Same here. I found myself playing the game just because I had bought it, not because I really wanted to play it. So I cancelled subscription and felt relieved. Playing this game made me feel like wearing a corset.

 

I also cancelled my subscription for pretty much this reason. I've tried to get into the game, but it really is just grinding. Some people keep saying "Its not grinding, I've done quests all the way through - you must be doing something wrong!" - Well they are missing the point.

Almost every quest is a grind in this game outside of the campaign quests. In other games, these "kill 10 monsters" are filler quests - in this game the "kill 10 monsters" is the core of the game. Its just not interesting. I can only assume that those that love the game have just blasted through those parts in the hope that the next bit is good, then perhaps the next bit after that.

Its not a terrible game, but this game is really for people who love MMOs and love to grind. For the normal folks they will have stopped playing within a month or two. This game has no X-Factor and I guess that can only be expected when they don't try to offer anything new.

The long wait for a great MMO continues...

You may want to not look for MMOs period. I can't think of one MMO that doesn't have quests to level up.  I take that back...in Warhammer you can level without questing. But that is assuming others are PVPing.  What other MMO's have you enjoyed?
 

So, kill xxx mobs or collect XX items are boring?  Look most of MMo are ALL LIKE THAT!  WOW, AOC, OR Warhammer, they all have the same questing system.  What do you want?? How about this?

NPC:  Please go to take a vacation for 3 days in New Orleans and when you come back write a report, then  I will grant you a new new skill!  Accept? or Decline? 

Is this quest new enough for you?  Gees... 

Hehe it really sounds a bit booring and a timewaster, I'm happy playing non-mmo's atm - although I'm a mmo "fan".

Originally posted by Gnemoi

Hehe it really sounds a bit booring and a timewaster, I'm happy playing non-mmo's atm - although I'm a mmo "fan".

I hate grinding and I hate quests, but I love MMO's. Why aren't there more games like SimLife?

That's kind of why I never got into the game.  The quests themselves just never really got you into the game at all.  After playing MMO's for the better part of 10 years now, I need something that is going to keep my interest.  I couldn't find it in Aion.  Yes, it was very polished, it ran very smooth but that's it.  It may not be 'grindy' in the sense of the word but when the content in and of itself is boring, it makes it feel that much more hard to get through it.  On top of that the mobs weren't very interesting and the world itself, while pretty in some areas, just didn't seem like it had any character. 

Originally posted by lev-27

Originally posted by Leucent

I agree with everything here and more. Boring gameplay, linear as hell, KSing, no pvp till 25, could fall asleep fighting(click a skill, then another, oh look a combo skill, over and over), terrible kid like sounds, nothing new in the least. Before i got to any of these gripes, I couldn t get past the boredom.

 

You just described every MMORPG on the market. I guess this genre not you cup of tea. Play something else instead and get out.

Every MMO. Hmm lets see, FFXI not boring or linear story. When people still use renkei, not click click little icons, needed to be timed right. DAOC, reactionary combat, fun pvp, and no wings which is a plus in my books. These are just 2 games that dont funnel you down a little path to the supposed great pvp the game has to offer. I could go on but no point arguing with you since you know all about every game on the market.

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by lev-27

Originally posted by Leucent

I agree with everything here and more. Boring gameplay, linear as hell, KSing, no pvp till 25, could fall asleep fighting(click a skill, then another, oh look a combo skill, over and over), terrible kid like sounds, nothing new in the least. Before i got to any of these gripes, I couldn t get past the boredom.

 

You just described every MMORPG on the market. I guess this genre not you cup of tea. Play something else instead and get out.

 

Every MMO. Hmm lets see, FFXI not boring or linear story. When people still use renkei, not click click little icons, needed to be timed right. DAOC, reactionary combat, fun pvp, and no wings which is a plus in my books. These are just 2 games that dont funnel you down a little path to the supposed great pvp the game has to offer. I could go on but no point arguing with you since you know all about every game on the market.

You're kidding? FFXI was the most boring MMO ever.. not to mention RETARDED, as a noob playing that game you have no idea what to do, the mechanics blow, the only good thing about it is the name it comes with.

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by lev-27

Originally posted by Leucent

I agree with everything here and more. Boring gameplay, linear as hell, KSing, no pvp till 25, could fall asleep fighting(click a skill, then another, oh look a combo skill, over and over), terrible kid like sounds, nothing new in the least. Before i got to any of these gripes, I couldn t get past the boredom.

 

You just described every MMORPG on the market. I guess this genre not you cup of tea. Play something else instead and get out.

 

Every MMO. Hmm lets see, FFXI not boring or linear story. When people still use renkei, not click click little icons, needed to be timed right. DAOC, reactionary combat, fun pvp, and no wings which is a plus in my books. These are just 2 games that dont funnel you down a little path to the supposed great pvp the game has to offer. I could go on but no point arguing with you since you know all about every game on the market.

You're kidding? FFXI was the most boring MMO ever.. not to mention RETARDED, as a noob playing that game you have no idea what to do, the mechanics blow, the only good thing about it is the name it comes with.

This is your opinion as mine is Aion is the most boring game ever. Opinions are a great thing, we all have them and no ones is really wrong. FFXI was and is one of the best games I ve ever played IMO.
 

Originally posted by InjaSam

I´m having a blast. lvl 30  today. Tons of quest and fun content=)

Cool! So, please, a short description of what you are doing in Aion perhaps?

Originally posted by Securion

Originally posted by InjaSam

I´m having a blast. lvl 30  today. Tons of quest and fun content=)

 

Cool! So, please, a short description of what you are doing in Aion perhaps?

 

I have a lot of quests, most people think after 25 they must level in the abyss, which is retarded, at 30 herion comes has tons of quests on the Eylsea side, and i've been there and im 34 now and still have quests they yeild 300k + exp.

so please, when you say there is nothing to do, EXPLORE!

Originally posted by Greeve11

Rather disappointed with the game, for many reason but most importantly-

1. The leveling. After 20 theres no doubt about it quests become rare and the XP is lacking even from the ones you run into. Grinding isn't necessarily my thing. Though someone can argue that grinding mobs is no different than grinding quests but straight grinding is monotonous.

2. Crafting and gathering. The game almost makes me feel like I need to level these two, and when it came down to it I had 200 Iron Ore that took nearly 30 minutes (Or more) to smelt into bars. There's an issue there. I've also heard of people spending over four hours just doing work orders to level their craft. This doesn't settle well with me. The drop rate on required fluxes is unsettling as well. I've had to drop over 100k Kinah on Fluxes just for a shot at making a blue item, just a shot...

3. Bag room/space. Very lacking and you're expected to pay mass amounts of Kinah to expand your cube. My bags are always full because of the gathering materials/gems I'm always picking up while leveling.

4. Certain mechanics. In my opinion some abilities need to be taken off the GCD. Like a Gladiator's Crippling Cut for example. Sprint causes my character to fly across the screen occasionally (Well, more than that) when used. Ranger's Stunning shot deals 200-400 damage but I've have it crit over 1k. There was another post about this I believe. Random numbers are random and don't make sense.

5. Queues. I'm not into waiting 2 hours or more to get into the game. I'm not sure why they opened with so few servers, especially with the game being out for a while in Asia.

6. Channels in the 1-10 and 11-20 zones but none for the zones above that? It's hard enough to muster the intention of grinding, but when I do I have to worry about large masses of people all over doing the same.

7. Gold spam. This is out of hand. And I need to log onto their main site to place in a ticket! This is ridiculous. I can block all the spammers I want but it seems like theres an army of them.

8. Lag. Constant disconnections are happening left and right for many players. Once again, with the game being out for some time you would imagine they have a pretty hefty revenue to make the game smooth and solid, but apparently not. The other night the server randomly came down without word as well, which will also lead me to my next point

9. Communication. When the server went down we received no word at all on the status of our server for 4 hours. When word finally came out, it was a Twitter update. This is very- VERY poor communication with customers. Forums were packed with threads and no one knew what was going on at all because after a certain point we couldn't even see the server lists. Another issue is there are no updates on the launch client. Nothing at all. When servers are down for maintenance.. I wouldn't know. It would just tell me I couldn't connect to the servers and kick me off the game. This causes a lot of confusion. Lastly, petitions need to be carried out through their website- wtf? I begin to wonder if they even have any game masters at all.

10. As mentioned earlier. No in-game support.

11. Chat. The opacity and font cannot be changed which is a bother for me as I find the text to be far too large and even with my chat filtered I find it difficult to keep up with legion/party/whisper chats. The lack of a command list irks me as well.

12. Triggered emotes- these are just annoying...

13. Oh screw it, you get the point. I won't be returning until serious changes are made.

1. Liar liar pants on fire...

2. Not true, you never need to touch crafting and gathering if you don't want to. They have a quest here and there that require you to gather things but you skip them without missing anything (since they never offer anything great) and you can get better stuff questing or off mobs.

3. I've never played an MMO where I didn't have bag space problem. Though I am assuming you are filling your bags with crafting material when you don't even want to craft. So the fault is all yours. Make a mule if it is such a problem.

6. I don't know about every zone but I have seen 20+ zones with channels. Theobomos is one example that I have seen.

Oh and for all the technical problems (minus the servers going down).

Most lag and disconnect problems are caused by the user or their computer set up. People like to point fingers instead of accepting the fact that their dial up modem and 5 year old PC can't handle the game.