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  metalhead980

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10/04/09 5:55:24 PM#21

 

No one hates anyone take a break you've been posting five years straight without a break.


Edit: had to edit before a mod warned me.

 

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  Ilvaldyr

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10/04/09 5:56:57 PM#22

He's got a point, you are kinda becoming the Zorndorf of Aion.

To say that a game is built for both PvE and PvP implies that the player can experience them separately. Now, I haven't played Aion to high levels yet, so I'll ask the question .. can I PvE at high levels and never have to be subjected to PvP?

If the answer is yes, then you're right .. it's a PvE and PvP game.
If the answer is no, then you're wrong .. it's not a PvE game; it's PvPvE.


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  thanith

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10/04/09 5:58:04 PM#23

 

agreed 100%, but as this guy insists on having the last word in EVERY thread in EVERY forum we will get him gone by not posting further *rofl*

  Cochran1

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10/04/09 6:04:51 PM#24
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by nonjonron

That is the question I am asking myself today.   I've been playing Aion for about a week now.  Its a good game so far.

That said, I have played EQ2 on and off over the years.  It is a very polished game at this point with loads of content.  I've played on the PvP server.

With the exception of flying, I don't see a huge difference between the game play in Aion and EQ2.  Granted, Aion is faster - you are always moving.  But EQ2 is quite deep.  The spell options and character advancement options in EQ2 are enormous.  Both have great graphics (EQ2 graphics are very good).

I will keep playing Aion for at least a month or 2.  Anyone else played both games?  Thoughts?

 

 

It seems that some people have the misconception that Aion is a PVP game. It's not

Aion is a game that puts a heavy focus on both PVE and PVP and the game is designed as such. Everquest 2 on the other hand, PVP is just an afterthought.

Any game with forced pvp is a pvp game.

If you want to relax and not have to deal with pvpers play EQ2, Aion doesn't have a  non pvp server since the whole game revolves around a pvp area and ladder system (again proving its a pvp focused game).


A pvp game is where the primary objective is player vs player confrontation. That's games like Darkfall and Warhammer, where the PVE is just an afterthought.

Aion isn't a PVP game in the sense that is its primary focus.

uh huh.....

So In Aion I could get the best shit and never deal with rifts, the pvp areas or the ladder system? also I wont be ganked after level twenty doing pve quests if I hate pvp?

Yeah I thought so.

Aion = a Pvp game.

Dont lie to the poor guy, you want him to waste 50 bucks to find out he could be ganked at anytime while innocently leveling in a questing area?

 

If you can't be ganked or PvP from the start then it's not a pvp title, it'a just an MMO with both PvE and PvP entertwined. That's why they market the game featured as PvPvE, and not PvP.
 

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  metalhead980

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10/04/09 6:07:31 PM#25


Oh I see so the eight hours of gameplay that it takes to level to 20 in a pve only area makes the game a pve game? yeah ok.

I would call that a tutorial or a newb area. Hit level 20 and run into a rift and see if you consider Aion a pve game at all lol.

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  Gameloading

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10/04/09 6:10:38 PM#26

 

Actually I'm nowhere near Zorndorf.
Zorndorf is constantly repeating how every game besides WoW sucks and will fail. I don't do that, I'm merely correcting many inaccurate claims about Aion.

The term PVPVE is a new term invented by NCsoft to describe the aspect of the Balaur being a seperate faction that reacts to the pvp aspect of the game. it's not meant to describe that a game has both pvp and pve, just that the two are connected to each other.

If PVP is a part of the game does not mean that game suddenly becomes a pvp exclusive focused game when just as much effort and time is spend on the PVE part of the game. Games like Darkfall where the game is clearly designed from the ground up for pvp game and where PVE takes a backseat, that's a pvp focused game.

Also to metalhead:
I really love people who complain another person is going back and forth. What do you think you're doing right now sherlock? It takes two to have a discussion.

I think it's rather funny you pretend i take this all seriously because i have a high post count. You see, this website has been online for quite a few years now and you know, your post count tends to increase when you post on a forum for such a long time. Ofcourse the fact I don't spend my time killing other peoples eyes by making all of my posts baby blue helps as well.

Also, about the part you quoted in red, please tell me you understood that was satire?

  Erindal

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10/04/09 6:11:59 PM#27

 

It does not mean that you can experience anything separately. Made for both means that you will experience both.

However I do like to watch how peoples fight each other and claim that their words are true only because they want it to be true.

Forums made to share experience mostly... But I still can't get what kind of experience you are sharing right now just because only few of you guys have actually played this game I am sure.

And the answer to OP would be: If you want to get your own experience - just try it. $50 Is not a big deal.

  metalhead980

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10/04/09 6:14:01 PM#28

 

This is my last post in this thread since I feel I already gave my two cents to the OP. If a game has forced pvp at all it's a pvp game.

Can I pve without dealing with pvp players? no.

End of story.

 

Edit: A pvp focused game still has pve, noone said otherwise. Problem is if you dont like pvp you wont like Aions pve since pvp is involved or forced on you. The quoted poster has yet to say you  can pve without pvp interuption.

I'm sure anyone would agree.

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  Deathstiny

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10/04/09 6:14:13 PM#29

why?

one word:

sony

  Gameloading

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10/04/09 6:15:46 PM#30

As long as a game puts a heavy emphasis on PVE play as well, it's a PVE game as well. Adding PVP do a game does not make the PVE part suddenly non existant or less important.

  thanith

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10/04/09 6:22:00 PM#31

 

@metalhead: i told you he wants to have the last word in EVERY thread in EVERY forum *laughs*

this.setPostingOff()

 

  laiko

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10/04/09 6:29:54 PM#32

If a game has PvE content and also PvP content, you can not describe the game solely one or the other. Though, there are some games that are like 95% PvP with 5% PvE which is Rakion. Nevertheless Aion from what I've seen is both PvE and PvP oriented. One thing is for sure that saying Aion is pvp only is ridiculous, its not Gunz Online or any other game involving pure pvp.

  ozrial

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10/04/09 6:31:07 PM#33
Originally posted by Erindal 

And the answer to OP would be: If you want to get your own experience - just try it. $50 Is not a big deal.

This is sad proof of how twisted off these threads get... the OP stated he was already playing it in his original post. 

To quote:"I've been playing Aion for about a week now."

My two cents: unless you want to run into this kinda BS in game (petty squabbling over terminology), play EQ2 where you are less likely to run into as many kiddies.

 

  Daffid011

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10/04/09 6:58:56 PM#34
Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

He's got a point, you are kinda becoming the Zorndorf of Aion.

To say that a game is built for both PvE and PvP implies that the player can experience them separately. Now, I haven't played Aion to high levels yet, so I'll ask the question .. can I PvE at high levels and never have to be subjected to PvP?

If the answer is yes, then you're right .. it's a PvE and PvP game.
If the answer is no, then you're wrong .. it's not a PvE game; it's PvPvE.

 

I think gameloading is right that aion is a pve and pvp game combined.  Everyone else is putting in some unspoken qualifications that pve means you have some complete and absolute haven from another aspect of gameplay [in this case pvp].

People seem to be selectively applying logic to what makes pve or pvp and trying to force aion into some predefined classification of either PVE or PVP game, when it is actually a blend of both.  So you cannot avoid the pvp part of Aion and the conclusion is that somehow makes it a PvP game.  When at the same time you cannot avoid the PvE portion of the game either, but somehow that doesn't make it a PvE game? 

Aion is both pve and pvp.  It is not a pure pve or pure pvp game, it is a combination of both. 

 

  laiko

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10/04/09 7:04:50 PM#35
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

He's got a point, you are kinda becoming the Zorndorf of Aion.

To say that a game is built for both PvE and PvP implies that the player can experience them separately. Now, I haven't played Aion to high levels yet, so I'll ask the question .. can I PvE at high levels and never have to be subjected to PvP?

If the answer is yes, then you're right .. it's a PvE and PvP game.
If the answer is no, then you're wrong .. it's not a PvE game; it's PvPvE.

 

I think gameloading is right that aion is a pve and pvp game combined.  Everyone else is putting in some unspoken qualifications that pve means you have some complete and absolute haven from another aspect of gameplay [in this case pvp].

People seem to be selectively applying logic to what makes pve or pvp and trying to force aion into some predefined classification of either PVE or PVP game, when it is actually a blend of both.  So you cannot avoid the pvp part of Aion and the conclusion is that somehow makes it a PvP game.  When at the same time you cannot avoid the PvE portion of the game either, but somehow that doesn't make it a PvE game? 

Aion is both pve and pvp.  It is not a pure pve or pure pvp game, it is a combination of both. 

 

 

Daffid said it all and hopefully this answers the Ops question

  Netzoko

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10/04/09 10:42:06 PM#36

EQ2 has better PvE than Aion, and theres dozens of other games with better PvP than Aion.

So in the end Aion doesn't hold itself as king of anything at all. It has no strongpoint... just a pure cookie cutter mmorpg.

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  Scot

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10/05/09 10:25:21 AM#37

For your next question how about:

"Why play chalk instead of chesse?"

  Dawnsinger

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10/05/09 11:00:17 AM#38

This Gameloading guy seems really slow.

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  Ethian

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10/05/09 11:08:02 AM#39
Originally posted by nonjonron

That is the question I am asking myself today.   I've been playing Aion for about a week now.  Its a good game so far.

That said, I have played EQ2 on and off over the years.  It is a very polished game at this point with loads of content.  I've played on the PvP server.

With the exception of flying, I don't see a huge difference between the game play in Aion and EQ2.  Granted, Aion is faster - you are always moving.  But EQ2 is quite deep.  The spell options and character advancement options in EQ2 are enormous.  Both have great graphics (EQ2 graphics are very good).

I will keep playing Aion for at least a month or 2.  Anyone else played both games?  Thoughts?

 


 

Firstly, Aion is a brand new MMO. Don't even waste your time comparing the two. If you want loads of content EQ2 is your best choice. If you want the new MMO feeling, Aion is your best choice.

IMO Aion is the best online game out right now. Not because its packed full of content and has crazy insane pvp but because I enjoy the lore, gameplay, and look of the game. If you like a game play it, if you don't try something else. Pretty simple rule I go by LOL.

 

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  Ethian

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10/05/09 11:16:25 AM#40
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by nonjonron

That is the question I am asking myself today.   I've been playing Aion for about a week now.  Its a good game so far.

That said, I have played EQ2 on and off over the years.  It is a very polished game at this point with loads of content.  I've played on the PvP server.

With the exception of flying, I don't see a huge difference between the game play in Aion and EQ2.  Granted, Aion is faster - you are always moving.  But EQ2 is quite deep.  The spell options and character advancement options in EQ2 are enormous.  Both have great graphics (EQ2 graphics are very good).

I will keep playing Aion for at least a month or 2.  Anyone else played both games?  Thoughts?

 

 

It seems that some people have the misconception that Aion is a PVP game. It's not

Aion is a game that puts a heavy focus on both PVE and PVP and the game is designed as such. Everquest 2 on the other hand, PVP is just an afterthought.

Any game with forced pvp is a pvp game.

If you want to relax and not have to deal with pvpers play EQ2, Aion doesn't have a  non pvp server since the whole game revolves around a pvp area and ladder system (again proving its a pvp focused game).


A pvp game is where the primary objective is player vs player confrontation. That's games like Darkfall and Warhammer, where the PVE is just an afterthought.

Aion isn't a PVP game in the sense that is its primary focus.

uh huh.....

So In Aion I could get the best shit and never deal with rifts, the pvp areas or the ladder system? also I wont be ganked after level twenty doing pve quests if I hate pvp?

Yeah I thought so.

Aion = a Pvp game.

Dont lie to the poor guy, you want him to waste 50 bucks to find out he could be ganked at anytime while innocently leveling in a questing area?

 

I'm not lying at all, you're pretending as if Aion's primary focus is PVP hence you said EQ2 for PVE, Aion for PVP.

Aion is a game that is designed for both pvp and pve play from the ground up. A correct describtion would be EQ2 for PVE, Aion for PVE and PVP.

THe main focus in Aion is The world pvp through the dedicated zones and Rifts that open up anywhere so the other faction can gank the shit out of questers. Also the game has something called Pvpve basically dungeons that are contested and are forced pvp.

I don't see how anyone could consider Aion a PVE game at all. Pvp is in everything, this isn;t a bad thing but if you want a total pve experience without pvp interfering you would be better off playing EQ2.

I know it's hard for you being a Aion player and all to sway anyone toward another game but seriously Aions is anything but a focused pve game.

 


 

Ya I agree. I always ask anyone considering Aion if they like PvP. If their answer is no I tell them not to bother. It takes awhile to level up in Aion so why even bother wasting your time on a game thats has so much PvP content. Your wasting your time and your money.

 

If you don't like PvP stay away fro Aion is my opition. If you still decide to play please don't whine and complain about getting ganked....Its going to happen and hopefully its me standing over your dead body.   :-)

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