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  lotroblogger

Novice Member

Joined: 9/23/09
Posts: 19

10/03/09 8:15:17 PM#26

While I agree that the character animations could use improvement, I don't have major issues with the horses. They are much better than WOW but I've never heard anyone say they passed on WOW because of the silly mounts (and they are silly in the extreme in WOW).

Having said that, Turbine is actually readdressing the core mount engine for the Mirkwood release. Check out that dev diary on this at [url]http://www.lotro.com/gameinfo/devdiaries/487-developer-diary-mounts-20[/url].

I know I am going to sound like a fan boy (okay, I am a LOTRO fan boy) but I find it very unusual to see developers going back and fixing things like this after a launch; especially only two years into a title. They've also tweaked the quests for level 1-20 and are working on 20-30 now (game flow issues...and they are greatly improving the leveling experience with the tweaks). This is another sort of change that I am delighted to see but am not used to see happening after launch (not to this degree).

All that to say, in any other title I'd say the character animations are what they are and they will never be changed. With Turbine's track record, you never know what they might put in resources to polish. Seems like they are always going back and polishing one aspect or another of the game.

Waldo Inkwell
The LOTRO Chronicles

  Jenaka

Novice Member

Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 53

10/03/09 10:39:05 PM#27
Originally posted by Frobner

Im watching icelandic horses out of the window now - and to be honest - your picture makes me cry.  It looks more of a cow than a horse. 

Here is my version of a horse.

Head and "hair"  and shape - farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/2608350399_0fb6abaaf0.jpg

www.youtube.com/watch

Movement - Yes these are real - takethereinstoday.com/images/icelandic_horse_u90i.jpg 

Reins would be - www.empirefarms.com/Merlin.jpg  Its a disgrace to not see rains in a world that is supposed to be none magical.  It the best sign that Turbine has crappy ppl working on the game concept and are obviously spending ZERO effort into putting middle earth come to LIFE.  

Or maybe it would be best that ppl actually looked at some of the pictures form the horses in LOTR movies and it would help ? 

Here is one side with few links - www.brego.net/lotr/horses.php

For me - horses in LOTRO are a gamebreaking factor.  Its pretty much the only game so far that I simply can not play because of it.  That has probably to do with my imaginary version of horses in Middle - earth.  But Im pretty sure my version of the horses is more of what Tolkien was thinking of - rather than the horror that Turbine is offering.  I promise you that.

 

PS.... and if you want to see an awsome pony - then see the Icelandic horse do TÖLT.    Enjoy

www.youtube.com/watch

It certainly does not look like a cow. Go google some cow pictures and see for yourself. No need to be so dramatic. Perhaps it's the pinto pattern that's throwing you off?

Personally I think seeing an Icelandic pony doing a tolt in LOTRO would be lore breaking, or a Lipizzaner doing a passage or a Tennessee Walker doing a running walk. Maybe you should look at some pictures from the movie. Not all of the horses had long flowing manes and they did the standard gaits.

If it's as important to you as you say then you must not be able to play any MMOs with horses in them. I've never seen any yet as perfect as you seem to need. If you know of some, post the links.

  Frobner

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/28/08
Posts: 663

10/04/09 4:13:21 PM#28
Originally posted by Jenaka
Originally posted by Frobner

Im watching icelandic horses out of the window now - and to be honest - your picture makes me cry.  It looks more of a cow than a horse. 

Here is my version of a horse.

Head and "hair"  and shape - farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/2608350399_0fb6abaaf0.jpg

www.youtube.com/watch

Movement - Yes these are real - takethereinstoday.com/images/icelandic_horse_u90i.jpg 

Reins would be - www.empirefarms.com/Merlin.jpg  Its a disgrace to not see rains in a world that is supposed to be none magical.  It the best sign that Turbine has crappy ppl working on the game concept and are obviously spending ZERO effort into putting middle earth come to LIFE.  

Or maybe it would be best that ppl actually looked at some of the pictures form the horses in LOTR movies and it would help ? 

Here is one side with few links - www.brego.net/lotr/horses.php

For me - horses in LOTRO are a gamebreaking factor.  Its pretty much the only game so far that I simply can not play because of it.  That has probably to do with my imaginary version of horses in Middle - earth.  But Im pretty sure my version of the horses is more of what Tolkien was thinking of - rather than the horror that Turbine is offering.  I promise you that.

 

PS.... and if you want to see an awsome pony - then see the Icelandic horse do TÖLT.    Enjoy

www.youtube.com/watch

It certainly does not look like a cow. Go google some cow pictures and see for yourself. No need to be so dramatic. Perhaps it's the pinto pattern that's throwing you off?

Personally I think seeing an Icelandic pony doing a tolt in LOTRO would be lore breaking, or a Lipizzaner doing a passage or a Tennessee Walker doing a running walk. Maybe you should look at some pictures from the movie. Not all of the horses had long flowing manes and they did the standard gaits.

If it's as important to you as you say then you must not be able to play any MMOs with horses in them. I've never seen any yet as perfect as you seem to need. If you know of some, post the links.

 

Actually - quite a few Icelandic horses were used in the LOTR movies (also arabic ones that can also do tolt).   Again - I do see this as a big factor in any game I play - but I can live with low graphical quality of hroses in games like WOW cause the game overall isn't focused on bringing out anything extra detailed to begin with. 

I found this clip about digital horses in LOTR movies and tbh it really summed up everything that I think of horses when it comes to High fantasy - high graphical gaming.  

www.youtube.com/watch

Plz watch it and compare those horses to what Turbine is offering.  Im not over dramatic about this - I just think if any game is gonna do high graphical quality game from LOTR then they should spend HUGE effort on the mounts cause they are big part of the stories - and will become even bigger in later expansions of LOTRO.

 

And just to show that there are actually ppl out there that have huge passion for the LOTR horses - then here you go =)

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

And one funny one in the end ;Þ

www.youtube.com/watch

  Sovrath

Elite Member

Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 6018

10/04/09 4:21:07 PM#29
Originally posted by Frobner
Originally posted by Jenaka
Originally posted by Frobner

Im watching icelandic horses out of the window now - and to be honest - your picture makes me cry.  It looks more of a cow than a horse. 

Here is my version of a horse.

Head and "hair"  and shape - farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/2608350399_0fb6abaaf0.jpg

www.youtube.com/watch

Movement - Yes these are real - takethereinstoday.com/images/icelandic_horse_u90i.jpg 

Reins would be - www.empirefarms.com/Merlin.jpg  Its a disgrace to not see rains in a world that is supposed to be none magical.  It the best sign that Turbine has crappy ppl working on the game concept and are obviously spending ZERO effort into putting middle earth come to LIFE.  

Or maybe it would be best that ppl actually looked at some of the pictures form the horses in LOTR movies and it would help ? 

Here is one side with few links - www.brego.net/lotr/horses.php

For me - horses in LOTRO are a gamebreaking factor.  Its pretty much the only game so far that I simply can not play because of it.  That has probably to do with my imaginary version of horses in Middle - earth.  But Im pretty sure my version of the horses is more of what Tolkien was thinking of - rather than the horror that Turbine is offering.  I promise you that.

 

PS.... and if you want to see an awsome pony - then see the Icelandic horse do TÖLT.    Enjoy

www.youtube.com/watch

It certainly does not look like a cow. Go google some cow pictures and see for yourself. No need to be so dramatic. Perhaps it's the pinto pattern that's throwing you off?

Personally I think seeing an Icelandic pony doing a tolt in LOTRO would be lore breaking, or a Lipizzaner doing a passage or a Tennessee Walker doing a running walk. Maybe you should look at some pictures from the movie. Not all of the horses had long flowing manes and they did the standard gaits.

If it's as important to you as you say then you must not be able to play any MMOs with horses in them. I've never seen any yet as perfect as you seem to need. If you know of some, post the links.

 

Actually - quite a few Icelandic horses were used in the LOTR movies (also arabic ones that can also do tolt).   Again - I do see this as a big factor in any game I play - but I can live with low graphical quality of hroses in games like WOW cause the game overall isn't focused on bringing out anything extra detailed to begin with. 

I found this clip about digital horses in LOTR movies and tbh it really summed up everything that I think of horses when it comes to High fantasy - high graphical gaming.  

www.youtube.com/watch

Plz watch it and compare those horses to what Turbine is offering.  Im not over dramatic about this - I just think if any game is gonna do high graphical quality game from LOTR then they should spend HUGE effort on the mounts cause they are big part of the stories - and will become even bigger in later expansions of LOTRO.


 

The thing is, I agree with you to a point.

The horses in LOTRO are lackluster. In vanguard I was noting how much more grand they were. the animations aren't that great in some cases but the horses seem more imposing.

The LOTRO horses feel like "almost ponies" to me.

Thanks for posting that. I think I'll watch all 3 director's cut movies again :)

  Jenaka

Novice Member

Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 53

10/08/09 10:30:15 PM#30
Originally posted by Frobner

Actually - quite a few Icelandic horses were used in the LOTR movies (also arabic ones that can also do tolt).   Again - I do see this as a big factor in any game I play - but I can live with low graphical quality of hroses in games like WOW cause the game overall isn't focused on bringing out anything extra detailed to begin with. 

I found this clip about digital horses in LOTR movies and tbh it really summed up everything that I think of horses when it comes to High fantasy - high graphical gaming.  

www.youtube.com/watch

Plz watch it and compare those horses to what Turbine is offering.  Im not over dramatic about this - I just think if any game is gonna do high graphical quality game from LOTR then they should spend HUGE effort on the mounts cause they are big part of the stories - and will become even bigger in later expansions of LOTRO.

 

And just to show that there are actually ppl out there that have huge passion for the LOTR horses - then here you go =)

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

And one funny one in the end ;Þ

www.youtube.com/watch

Icelandic horses may have been used in the movies but did you see any do the tolt? In the clips you posted most of the horses looked like average horses to me, doing standard walk, trot, canter, gallop. And you are comparing making digital horses for a movie to an MMO horse. You think they should spend a HUGE effort on the mounts in LOTRO? At the expense of what? MMOs do have their limitations you know. And they have been making improvements gradually, with an eye towards the future I'm sure.

I like Vanguard's horses myself but they do have their faults. They lack musculature and the skins are flat and lack detail. They have nice barding however.

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