well, i saw some trailer, gameplay video and all and this game look more f2p then subscription base. The combat gameplay remind me of monster hunter or phantazy star online and i didnt really like those games. Who is with me on that. This game will have to be f2p before i buy it. Diablo 3 look a lot better and its free. APB(All point bultin) look a lot better and it will be free. So do you think this game will get an high amount of subs to keep it alive by making their players paying per months?

I think they need to show more pvp so we can get more idea about the game. At the moment, i dont think it deserve to be p2p.

Game will be P2P Whether you like it or not, and Diablo 3 and ABP are both not mmorpg so I don’t know what you are comparing

The game has had $30 Million dollars invested into its making...this game is no dodgy  cheap crap.

i for one was happy when the confirmed it was a p2p

From what I can tell from what little is currently available, Its too early to say whether or not this game will be able to draw a decent fanbase. However, this game seems pretty interesting to me. I really like the art direction and the action-based combat system sounds potentially promising, but its still too early to judge it in my opinion. I'd have to see the rest of the classes and races and maybe a little more insight into the game mechanics. If their claim of a completely non instanced MMO with these graphics holds up, I dont think itll be possible to make it F2P.

Since when has any F2P looked like this?

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

well, i saw some trailer, gameplay video and all and this game look more f2p then subscription base. The combat gameplay remind me of monster hunter or phantazy star online and i didnt really like those games. Who is with me on that. This game will have to be f2p before i buy it. Diablo 3 look a lot better and its free. APB(All point bultin) look a lot better and it will be free. So do you think this game will get an high amount of subs to keep it alive by making their players paying per months?

I think they need to show more pvp so we can get more idea about the game. At the moment, i dont think it deserve to be p2p.

You are trying to pan off Diablo as looking better?LMAO cmon dude,Blizzard does not have ONE single game that looks good,they are all warcraft engine ,cheap junk.D3 looks like a Baldur's gate ripoff,not that it surprises me as Blizzard is known for copying.

TERA IMO actually looks pretty good,after that i have not a clue what the rest of the game is like.The models are still Korean/lineage looking but everything else looks good.What caught my eye is that the combat was a tad slower than their usual unrealistic animations.Where the combat fails ,just as in ALL Korean type MMO's ,is the combat looks solo play,nothing organized,just grab a few players and go nuts slashing away at your hotbar.

Looks like somebody's been visited by the Wishful Thinking Fairy. Any persistant world game worth playing is worth paying for. I love the belief that everything on the internet should be free.

Don't be a cheap-ass.

I don't think it looks free to play at all.  In fact, it looks better than Aion, imo.  I'll have to learn more about the gameplay to see if actually wanna play, but it looks really good.

If this game looks FTP then you should not be playing MMOs. Show me one PTP game that looks better? If you dont like Asian games then you may as well move along beause this game is Asian at its finest. This my friend is a REAL MMO.

Originally posted by Mannish

If this game looks FTP then you should not be playing MMOs. Show me one PTP game that looks better? If you dont like Asian games then you may as well move along beause this game is Asian at its finest. This my friend is a REAL MMO.

I didnt said i didnt like asian game. In faq, i played raganarok online and i liked it a lot. I was in a pvp server where we could fight everywhere and even if i didnt get to the max, i was strong enough and i was in a guild good and large enough to stay long enough in game.

Im not cheap ass too. I played wow teal lvl 80 and left, played age of conan teal lvl 80 and after a while left and now, im playing darkfall online.

That being said, This game look like a secondary game that i would play to take a pause of an mmorpg im currently playing. So thats why i said that it dont look like a p2p game. I mean, will you replace that game with aion or anything you currently play?

What i dont like is the monster hunter type of gameplay and it dont look p2p for me. Graphics are awsome, but how many players do you think will be able to fight at the same place? I talk about large scale pvp and they said that there wont be any instance. How will they be able to make a large scale pvp with out any lag or crash?

My prediction is that after launch, it will be p2p and it will slowly lose subs and go f2p. You buy it and f2p i mean. A game like this, i cant see my self continue playing at the end game because p2p game is more about the end game to keep their subs playing when he did all that they could do.

Sounding like one long run on sentence. Saying you cannot see yourself playing a game until the end without enough information on the game to even make a rational point. But we all have our opinions.

That being said, the game looks amazing as far as the setting goes. Kinda burned out with the fantasy setting though personally, but something about a lush, colorful, fantasy landscape that makes me all wide eyed and in love.

I for one welcome a non-instanced game. My biggest complaint about Age of Conan was the instancing. Slowed the game down for me and never really brought me into the game the way I was hoping it would. Seemed to video game like and not enough fantasy imagination.  <shrugs>

this game looks absolutely amazing. I'm such a sucker for good korean artist driven mmorpgs like lineage 2. Thanks for posting those pics SgtFrog, i actually have a TERA background for my desktop

Originally posted by SgtFrog

 

 

Since when has any F2P looked like this?

 

Screens looks amazing ;o)

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

What i dont like is the monster hunter type of gameplay and it dont look p2p for me. Graphics are awsome, but how many players do you think will be able to fight at the same place? I talk about large scale pvp and they said that there wont be any instance. How will they be able to make a large scale pvp with out any lag or crash?

My prediction is that after launch, it will be p2p and it will slowly lose subs and go f2p. You buy it and f2p i mean. A game like this, i cant see my self continue playing at the end game because p2p game is more about the end game to keep their subs playing when he did all that they could do.

Heh, I play RenX, a mod on thwe UT3 engine, which is what TERA is also based on. I can assure you that even with a pretty low system you can play fine with 64 players on your screen. I doubt it'll be a lot more most of the time, unless you're a fag and sit in town all day.

Originally posted by TeKNoZem

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

What i dont like is the monster hunter type of gameplay and it dont look p2p for me. Graphics are awsome, but how many players do you think will be able to fight at the same place? I talk about large scale pvp and they said that there wont be any instance. How will they be able to make a large scale pvp with out any lag or crash?

My prediction is that after launch, it will be p2p and it will slowly lose subs and go f2p. You buy it and f2p i mean. A game like this, i cant see my self continue playing at the end game because p2p game is more about the end game to keep their subs playing when he did all that they could do.

 

Heh, I play RenX, a mod on thwe UT3 engine, which is what TERA is also based on. I can assure you that even with a pretty low system you can play fine with 64 players on your screen. I doubt it'll be a lot more most of the time, unless you're a fag and sit in town all day.

You dont get it. Tera is an mmorpg in a huge world where you play with 2000 or 5000 players. In most mmorpg with good graphic like this, they have a lot of instance usually to prevent lags and all other stuff. Well, They said that tera wont have any instance so like i said, if its a pvp game, how will they be able to make a large scale combat with all that animation info in one server, one sandbox?

DF for example, no instance, 10 000 players can play in one server and you can do a 100 vs 100 or 150 vs 150 without lagging or making the game crash(today, it dont crash anymore). Why? Because the game got poor animation. The poor animation had been specially made to make large scale war happen in a none instance world. There game be also like 3 war at 3 different world location, large scale war in those 3 different place without server crash or lag.

In wow, did you heard about the new pvp zone in WOTLK where you can use siege engine? There can be so much players in this zone when they fight. Its a zone pvp, not an instance like i said. Well athene(If you know who he is,)made a video to report that full wow servers, when he try to pvp in that zone, the server always end up lagging. Lagging at a point where its impossible to play. Then, server crash. He even said that it happen sometime in normal populate server. Only in low server its perfect. Go on youtube, check some wow video where a group of horde attack a capital of the alliance. There will be huge lag and server crash.

So that being said, i dont think TERA will handle large scale pvp in a sandbox world without any instance. Im base on faqs.

so what? L2 back in the day was pretty big, and I remember well over 400 players battling it out on lower-performance private servers without lag or crashes. What makes you think TERA will be any different? I didn't spot any crappy animation in L2, why would TERA be any different? (same damn team) the only problem with the large scale pvp's, mostly alliance vs. alliance wars on L2 back then was that my comp couldn't handle it and I ran with a crappy fps. I don't see how that's gonna change with a new game on a newer engine. You seem to forget the big difference in hardware capabilities computers and servers have nowadays compared to when WoW or L2 were released. Besides that, I doubt it'll be running on 1 server, I believe it'll be more of a server cluster type affair. Besides, I don't remember any instancing in Lineage2..?

Hell, just for the fun of it I'll repeat muyself. I've never experienced lag or a server crash on lower-performance L2 servers build on official files while in a large scale pvp, apart from my massive framedrops.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Originally posted by TeKNoZem

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

What i dont like is the monster hunter type of gameplay and it dont look p2p for me. Graphics are awsome, but how many players do you think will be able to fight at the same place? I talk about large scale pvp and they said that there wont be any instance. How will they be able to make a large scale pvp with out any lag or crash?

My prediction is that after launch, it will be p2p and it will slowly lose subs and go f2p. You buy it and f2p i mean. A game like this, i cant see my self continue playing at the end game because p2p game is more about the end game to keep their subs playing when he did all that they could do.

 

Heh, I play RenX, a mod on thwe UT3 engine, which is what TERA is also based on. I can assure you that even with a pretty low system you can play fine with 64 players on your screen. I doubt it'll be a lot more most of the time, unless you're a fag and sit in town all day.

 

You dont get it. Tera is an mmorpg in a huge world where you play with 2000 or 5000 players. In most mmorpg with good graphic like this, they have a lot of instance usually to prevent lags and all other stuff. Well, They said that tera wont have any instance so like i said, if its a pvp game, how will they be able to make a large scale combat with all that animation info in one server, one sandbox?

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So that being said, i dont think TERA will handle large scale pvp in a sandbox world without any instance. Im base on faqs.

and THATS the reason u should keep an eye at it, my reason also.

ONE DAY they will get it, maybe with Tera we get a step closer, im personately not atracted by the shinny flufly thing, but im really exited with the engine, and if they can get a non targeting large scale battles. If it dont deliver, no need to care, but if does, we may get better games coming :)

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Game will be P2P Whether you like it or not, and Diablo 3 and ABP are both not mmorpg so I don’t know what you are comparing

The game has had $30 Million dollars invested into its making...this game is no dodgy  cheap crap.

i for one was happy when the confirmed it was a p2p

I second that ^^   :)

Been gone a while just saw that they put TERA up as an upcoming MMO!

So excited, I've been sorta following this production for some time now, the more recent screen shots look even more amazing than the ones I've already seen.

So excited for this titles release.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal 

You dont get it. Tera is an mmorpg in a huge world where you play with 2000 or 5000 players. In most mmorpg with good graphic like this, they have a lot of instance usually to prevent lags and all other stuff. Well, They said that tera wont have any instance so like i said, if its a pvp game, how will they be able to make a large scale combat with all that animation info in one server, one sandbox?

DF for example, no instance, 10 000 players can play in one server and you can do a 100 vs 100 or 150 vs 150 without lagging or making the game crash(today, it dont crash anymore). Why? Because the game got poor animation. The poor animation had been specially made to make large scale war happen in a none instance world. There game be also like 3 war at 3 different world location, large scale war in those 3 different place without server crash or lag.

In wow, did you heard about the new pvp zone in WOTLK where you can use siege engine? There can be so much players in this zone when they fight. Its a zone pvp, not an instance like i said. Well athene(If you know who he is,)made a video to report that full wow servers, when he try to pvp in that zone, the server always end up lagging. Lagging at a point where its impossible to play. Then, server crash. He even said that it happen sometime in normal populate server. Only in low server its perfect. Go on youtube, check some wow video where a group of horde attack a capital of the alliance. There will be huge lag and server crash.

So that being said, i dont think TERA will handle large scale pvp in a sandbox world without any instance. Im base on faqs.

You go from saying this game has bad graphics and looks like a free to play game, and then flip flop to saying it has some of the best graphics in the industry in around two posts?

Seriously?

Do you have something against this game?  

When you change your mind and say this game has good graphics rather than being excited or changing your opinion on the game at all, you find a new flaw to complain about!

Negative posters make negative posts.

This game loos absolutely amazing (to put it mildly!) , this is from what I have seen and read so far only, ofc there is no telling how it truly is going to be until there is more hands-on previews.

There is really one thing tho that makes me happy, is that bluehole where the original L3 cancelled project team, and looking at the game and reading up on some of its features I can see L3 written all over it, animations look amazing, persistant world, awesome models, I do hope they plan to include the sort of conflict L2 has, by that I mean castle sieges/territory control and not some faction based crap im really fed up with faction based games, we need guilds and alliances being the factions and not some game imposed one.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

well, i saw some trailer, gameplay video and all and this game look more f2p then subscription base. The combat gameplay remind me of monster hunter or phantazy star online and i didnt really like those games. Who is with me on that. This game will have to be f2p before i buy it. Diablo 3 look a lot better and its free. APB(All point bultin) look a lot better and it will be free. So do you think this game will get an high amount of subs to keep it alive by making their players paying per months?

I think they need to show more pvp so we can get more idea about the game. At the moment, i dont think it deserve to be p2p.

Reminds me more of what a toned down phantasy star universe should have been.   

I'm a bit perplexed that they went with the dumb, zerg, minions.   IMO " free style " combat works 1000x better with fewer, tougher enemies that require players to exploit weaknesses.   I wish the combat would look more like zelda, it is still nice to see that the game will require some group tactics to be the most effective.

Edit:  Does anyone know if its possible to harm your teammates?

Personally, I LOVED Monster Hunter. In fact, I'm going to buy a Wii when MH3 hits the states. So I'm not with you on that at all. I also hope English isn't your first language, because your ability to communicate is really detracting from your arguement. It seems like you went from saying the game looked crappy to that the game looked really good. I know, I know, connotation and denotation, but regardless I had a bit of difficulty figuring out what you meant from what you said, because it looks  nothing like any free to play that I have seen. Now if you mean because the models have that nice wholesome Korean influence, then maybe I can see where you are coming from, but I'm not sure.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

well, i saw some trailer, gameplay video and all and this game look more f2p then subscription base. The combat gameplay remind me of monster hunter or phantazy star online and i didnt really like those games. Who is with me on that. This game will have to be f2p before i buy it. Diablo 3 look a lot better and its free. APB(All point bultin) look a lot better and it will be free. So do you think this game will get an high amount of subs to keep it alive by making their players paying per months?

I think they need to show more pvp so we can get more idea about the game. At the moment, i dont think it deserve to be p2p.

Firstly Umm.. correct me if im wrong but APB is NOT free.

Secondly, you're serious?  You're judging (harshly) a game due out in a YEAR?  What kind of broken-english crack are you smoking?  Yeah it looks like some of the f2p asian games, but I'm sure that is just the way they want it to look.  I'm sure the quality and quantity of things in it will surpass something like FF or 9 Dragons.... Anyway... meh

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

well, i saw some trailer, gameplay video and all and this game look more f2p then subscription base. The combat gameplay remind me of monster hunter or phantazy star online and i didnt really like those games. Who is with me on that. This game will have to be f2p before i buy it. Diablo 3 look a lot better and its free. APB(All point bultin) look a lot better and it will be free. So do you think this game will get an high amount of subs to keep it alive by making their players paying per months?

I think they need to show more pvp so we can get more idea about the game. At the moment, i dont think it deserve to be p2p.

It looks like a great game to me. New combat experience, Beautiful graphics engine, unique story, and the races so far looks very Final Fantasy - esque. Not to mention, the trailer they released was ALL gameplay footage. That is very talented and professional on their end. So far most everyone on the boards is impressed with it thus far.
 

Looks like your all alone with your opinion :P. Just because it's an Asian-import MMO doesn't mean it has to automatically be F2P. Take Lineage 1&2 and Aion for example. All three of them have had huge success in the west.

Originally posted by gorillaz951

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

well, i saw some trailer, gameplay video and all and this game look more f2p then subscription base. The combat gameplay remind me of monster hunter or phantazy star online and i didnt really like those games. Who is with me on that. This game will have to be f2p before i buy it. Diablo 3 look a lot better and its free. APB(All point bultin) look a lot better and it will be free. So do you think this game will get an high amount of subs to keep it alive by making their players paying per months?

I think they need to show more pvp so we can get more idea about the game. At the moment, i dont think it deserve to be p2p.

It looks like a great game to me. New combat experience, Beautiful graphics engine, unique story, and the races so far looks very Final Fantasy - esque. Not to mention, the trailer they released was ALL gameplay footage. That is very talented and professional on their end. So far most everyone on the boards is impressed with it thus far.
 

Looks like your all alone with your opinion :P. Just because it's an Asian-import MMO doesn't mean it has to automatically be F2P. Take Lineage 1&2 and Aion for example. All three of them have had huge success in the west.

Im alone because anyway, it seem like not many ppl are interested to even make bad comment like me on the board. So only those who like the game are looking for the game. There is no other hater like me, and not many followers currently, but i wont judge right now, but i dont see it being a good p2p soon too.

Character selection is what i want to talk the most. To me,the character selection look kind of sexist. I mean, there is a woman almost naked. The one with the white robe is so tight, we have the feeling that we can see trought it or we already see trought it. Sexe symbole is how they represent them it seem. If i was a woman, i would feel offended.

In other word, i think this is where they try to bring the selling point. By showing woman like this. Im guessing that in front of the box cover, there will be a woman almost naked. There had been a journal at mmorpg about woman on the cover or something and this is where tera want to raise their selling point i bet.

And it seem like tera is not on the top 5 most anticipate game and he was number 1 like 3 or 4 days ago only i think. No one is interested at the monster hunter, fantazy star online gameplay unless they are F2P.