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duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/01/09 10:14:46 PM#1

 Hi everyone, I would please like some help with this following mater. I have a very decent hardware and should be able to run AION somoothly, seeing the game's recomended settings (I have way better stuff than needed -- check my configuration and the end of the post please). The thing is, when runing with everything maxed out (4xAA, 1680x1050) I, sometimes (pretty frequent) experience FPS ratings even lower than 30FPS! And more, it doesn't matter if the AA is on 0x or 8x (yeah I AM "applying" the settings) or even if I tweak other graphic efects, even vSync, the FPS diference is, at best, 5 on avarage from the ALL MAXED to the ALL LOWERED. Another interesting fact is that when I ask the game to set the "recomended" settings for my rig with the auto-scan function it maxes out everything and put the resolution on the max possible, meaning the game was made for and knows that it should run fully maxed with my settings. So, thing is I run Crysis perfectly maxed (except from shadders, which is on medium) with 2xAA, 1680x1050 at an avarage 55FPS (no kidding) and run other demanding games maxed out, like Farcry2, DawnOfWar2, UnrealTournament3 etc. The only games I got problems with is AION and AgeOfConan. So, on the AION mater, please (check of my hardware) and tell me, is there any tweek or anything, like a driver (nVidia) that works better with AION (no, the LAST ones -RE NOT always -and for most of games this is sadly true- exacly the BETTER ones to run an especifc game with max FPSs possible), anything. Some people even told me that I should take my soundcard (Razer Barracuda AC-1) off and test the game's FPS, I fail to see why and how could this improve my FPS rating that much, since it (at least should) increases it (on theory) by taking work of the Motherboard, so I didn't tryed that (yet, if anyone convinces me with how it could work, I might give a try). So, again, anything (BIOS tweeks, drivers, etc.) that can help me, I would be VERY GLAD! Just be ware the I ALREADY tried all the basic stuff, like cleaning and reisntaling AION (compleatly) and nVidia ForceWare and nForce drivers trough Windows safe-mode, using driver sweper toll and re-downloading everything. And, NO, none of theese "solutions" have worked. Sorry for the long post! And thanks for reading.

*Sorry for the english, it's not my main lenguage.

Computer settings:
_Microsoft Windows Vista x64bits.
_Intel QX6800 2.9GHz OC'd to 3.5GHz. (temps. go to 74C. at peak with full load, thanks to Noctua's NHU-12P Heatsink with 2xNoctua 120mm coolers)
_EVGA nVidia nForce 780i. (A1 Version, with last BIOS -- P80)
_4x2GB DDR2 800Mhz Patriot Viper RAM. (5-5-5-15 timing, non-OC'd)
_PNY nVidia geForce GTX295 VGA 829MBx2. (multi-GPU/SLI on, Physx on, non-OC'd, last 190.62 WHQL drivers)
_Razer Barracuda AC-1 Gaming Sound Card 24bit and 96KHz interface. (Last 2.23 Vista non-WHQL drivers -- WHQL unaviable from Razer)
_1000W Akasa Power Max 80+ and SLI certified Power Supply Unit. (1100w at low temps. and peak load)
_2x500GB Samsung Spinpoint 7200RMP HDs with 8MB of cache each. (Never crashed, never had any problem)

Precusor

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Posts: 2412

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10/01/09 10:49:44 PM#2

Does the FPS drop when there's like 100s players in front of you?

drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 2144

10/01/09 10:57:45 PM#3

 dont know about vista 64 but i got vista 32 and i had to tweak a lot to get fair result 

im surprised you get same speed as my computer but my computer is old i use

 athlon 64 x2 4600+ ,nvidia 8800gt 512 mb ram

you should literally speed trough the game 

i run average 55 fps

let me make sure about my tip ill be right back i n 2 minute

Tisiphone

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Joined: 3/16/04
Posts: 483

"Every time you skip security patches, Cthulu kills a kitten."

10/01/09 11:00:37 PM#4


Originally posted by drbaltazar
 dont know about vista 64 but i got vista 32 and i had to tweak a lot to get fair result 
im surprised you get same speed as my computer but my computer is old i use
 athlon 64 x2 4600+ ,nvidia 8800gt 512 mb ram
you should literally speed trough the game 
i run average 55 fps
let me make sure about my tip ill be right back i n 2 minute

I'm leaning towards a Vista 64 bit / Vista driver compatibility problem there, too. The system specs and updates are really good, until he gets to Vista. I'm hoping somebody else comes along with 64 bit who has seen these issues and figured out how to fix them.


TheFirst109

Novice Member

Joined: 7/08/07
Posts: 89

10/01/09 11:01:55 PM#5

Hmm that is odd. I have Vista 64-bit and so far everything has been running smoothly besides the initial server lag. I was in a raid last night that had a large amount of people and I didn't experience any slow down like you had. I'm using a Phenom II X4 Processor. 

arogors

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/26/07
Posts: 15

TALES OF EXCALIBUR!!!!

10/01/09 11:03:05 PM#6

weird im running the game on my laptop,

3 gb ram

ati radeon mobility 2400 HD

1.5 ghz

32 bit vista

i get 30fps on high

 

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/01/09 11:05:18 PM#7
Originally posted by Precusor

Does the FPS drop when there's like 100s players in front of you?

 

No, it happnes when I'm close to shiny things, water and on the main town... Realy people, this is really strange, has you said, probably a VISTA problem or Driver stuff, any tweek would be nice. If anyone knows a good one...

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/01/09 11:06:29 PM#8
Originally posted by drbaltazar

 dont know about vista 64 but i got vista 32 and i had to tweak a lot to get fair result 

im surprised you get same speed as my computer but my computer is old i use

 athlon 64 x2 4600+ ,nvidia 8800gt 512 mb ram

you should literally speed trough the game 

i run average 55 fps

let me make sure about my tip ill be right back i n 2 minute

I'll be waiting! Don't take too long, please... Thanks, BTW.

neorandom

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/15/08
Posts: 480

10/01/09 11:08:36 PM#9

 "And more, it doesn't matter if the AA is on 0x or 8x (yeah I AM "applying" the settings) or even if I tweak other graphic efects, even vSync, the FPS diference is, at best, 5 on avarage from the ALL MAXED to the ALL LOWERED"

 

Your video driver and aion arent compatible, update till they are.

drbaltazar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 2144

10/01/09 11:10:20 PM#10

 k heres a thing i did to mine that smoothed connection

click on run,then right click on my computer ,the sellect first onthe left top,it should say periferal gestion or such ,soory for bad trranslation im french , theres only 4 it should be the top one 

then you ll see pc-client with lot of plus sign expend network card,it should be an nforce i think ,click on it,select advance

check for a thing called 

FLOW CONTROL  ENABLE IT

the other i enabled is this one

INTERRUPT MODERATION 

restart  computer and try this 

write down how you acces this if it doesnt help  put those setting back the way they were 

it worked for me but since i got a dino of a computer not sure if its the same for your s 

but the way i heard its a freaking vista thing ,so it should smooth out your connection 

 

 

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/01/09 11:11:43 PM#11
Originally posted by neorandom

 "And more, it doesn't matter if the AA is on 0x or 8x (yeah I AM "applying" the settings) or even if I tweak other graphic efects, even vSync, the FPS diference is, at best, 5 on avarage from the ALL MAXED to the ALL LOWERED"

 

Your video driver and aion arent compatible, update till they are.

They are updated to the last versions avaiable from nVidia, but, has I said, sometimes the best drivers aren't the last one for especifc games. That is just why I'm posting it, if anyone knows of any nVidia driver that works better with AION on GTX295 cards, please help out here!

drbaltazar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 2144

10/01/09 11:14:41 PM#12

 i use same screen size as you  aa and af at 8x  everything on card maxed ,setted to replace all setting 

since i play mabinogi sometime

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/01/09 11:21:03 PM#13
Originally posted by drbaltazar

 k heres a thing i did to mine that smoothed connection

click on run,then right click on my computer ,the sellect first onthe left top,it should say periferal gestion or such ,soory for bad trranslation im french , theres only 4 it should be the top one 

then you ll see pc-client with lot of plus sign expend network card,it should be an nforce i think ,click on it,select advance

check for a thing called 

FLOW CONTROL  ENABLE IT

the other i enabled is this one

INTERRUPT MODERATION 

restart  computer and try this 

write down how you acces this if it doesnt help  put those setting back the way they were 

it worked for me but since i got a dino of a computer not sure if its the same for your s 

but the way i heard its a freaking vista thing ,so it should smooth out your connection 

 

 

Did it, gona restart and try the game with it later , tell how it worked. Tough, I'm afraid what you said is more related with network problems unfortunetly. My problem isan't the conection, but the actual FPS (related to videocard etc.). Anyways, thanks allot!

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/01/09 11:22:38 PM#14

 BTW, if ANYONE has similar problems with AION specialy with the same hardware, please feel free to post. I'm quite interested to see how other GTX295 users are performing on this game, specialy with SLI-on.

drbaltazar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 2144

10/01/09 11:23:49 PM#15
Originally posted by duedu
Originally posted by drbaltazar

 k heres a thing i did to mine that smoothed connection

click on run,then right click on my computer ,the sellect first onthe left top,it should say periferal gestion or such ,soory for bad trranslation im french , theres only 4 it should be the top one 

then you ll see pc-client with lot of plus sign expend network card,it should be an nforce i think ,click on it,select advance

check for a thing called 

FLOW CONTROL  ENABLE IT

the other i enabled is this one

INTERRUPT MODERATION 

restart  computer and try this 

write down how you acces this if it doesnt help  put those setting back the way they were 

it worked for me but since i got a dino of a computer not sure if its the same for your s 

but the way i heard its a freaking vista thing ,so it should smooth out your connection 

 

 

Did it, gona restart and try the game with it later , tell how it worked. Tough, I'm afraid what you said is more related with network problems unfortunetly. My problem isan't the conection, but the actual FPS (related to videocard etc.). Anyways, thanks allot!

yep on fps i cant  think anything wrong ,hell you should be hable to run 4 screen like we got lol

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/02/09 1:53:16 AM#16

Confirmed that when I turn one of GPUs off (trough nVidia's control panel) the FPS increases in very noticable way, around 8 to 14 on avarege compared to when SLI is on, its not as good has it should run, but it is alot more playable (since, most of the times,its always runing on more than 30fps with ecerything maxed 4xAA and 1680x1050 with vSync on that way -- only 1GPU on). Again, that is using only one GPU on videocard that is made to use always both. Using only one GPU in the GTX295 is the same runing an hypothetical "GTX270", so FPS is far from great... Guess the game has some REAL bad SLI support, which is a shame (specialy when I consider the price of an HD5870 compared to a GTX295...).

drbaltazar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 2144

10/02/09 11:33:33 AM#17

 either sli problem 

or the amp and voltage you suply to graphic card is too low

if card ask 26 amp and you supply only 15 amp that could be the issue

dont how much watt is needed thos for 2 x295 plus all your toy

your powersuply must be too small of very close to 

on a side note ,you max sli aa is 4 x????

mm my aa setting in game is 8 x and in card its 16 x

same for AF 16 x also

 i set both at x8

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/02/09 4:53:33 PM#18
Originally posted by drbaltazar

 either sli problem 

or the amp and voltage you suply to graphic card is too low

if card ask 26 amp and you supply only 15 amp that could be the issue

dont how much watt is needed thos for 2 x295 plus all your toy

your powersuply must be too small of very close to 

on a side note ,you max sli aa is 4 x????

mm my aa setting in game is 8 x and in card its 16 x

same for AF 16 x also

 i set both at x8

 

No, the max AA is 16x2Q or something like that, but I tend to only use x4 or x8 AA. I don't think it is a PSU problem has well, since all other games work right and smooth. Anyways, I don't think you got the right idea, I only have one (1) GTX295, but (just has the GX2 series of nVidia) it is composed of 2 (two) GPUs equivalent to two hypothetical "GTX270" with 896MB each, having 1792MB (1.7GB) in TOTAL (896x2), got it? Thing is, in AION (and AoC), performance works better when I turn (via nVidia Control-panel) one of the GPUs off, but then when I do so I only use half of my videocard's power, which gives me a very low performance compared to what it should be giving if the SLI (dual GPU) worked as it should on this games.

 

Andraaxx

Novice Member

Joined: 10/03/04
Posts: 20

10/02/09 5:09:25 PM#19

This probably not related, but my performance problems were with my router. No matter how my I tweaked the game it was still bad, until I switched from my Linksys router and have not have a problem since, even at max settings.

duedu

Novice Member

Joined: 6/18/04
Posts: 11

 
10/05/09 1:30:40 AM#20

 

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