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Originally posted by Dibdabs
I don't need "fresh, new ideas" to enjoy a game. I'm certainly not against it either. Out of the newer mmos this one has been the most fun for me so far. That could always change. I don't work for NCSoft and I'm not a long time follower of this game so if it goes downhill or turns to shit then so be it. You never know though. AoC was fun until you got out of Tortage and as lacking as the PvE was in Warhammer the PvP was fun until you reached T4 so my opinion could always change. As for now I'm having fun with it. Sorry you didn't but to each their own. None of these newer mmos have any fresh, new ideas that I've seen. So for me it boils down to what I enjoy playing at the time which for now is Aion. Will I feel that way 6 months or a year from now? I couldn't say but so far it's been entertaining. |
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Originally posted by ZhenChen
word man.. go play lineage2 or FFXI online.. been in ''end game'' on both.. 3yrs on L2 - 1yr 4months on FFXI and believe me when i say i have been grinding in few games.. i dont know what you guys are sweating about.. there hasnt been any grinding so far for me on aion (lv28) you guys dont deserve games like Aion.. go back to play tetris.. oh and also.. even WoW is a massive grinder if you ppl define grinding as quests that have kill x this go to blaa blaa.. collect X amount of blaa blaa.. actually every mmo these days has em.. except social MMO's.. tho who cares about them.. go try those out.. prolly suits u cry-babies better lol dude most who complain about grind have been spoon fed by wow for years so they probably never saw or played lineage 2 lol i played wow 3 years and its not a grind at all compared to lineage 2 and if it is most have ways to go around that in wow,the one that gets it hard in wow are the one that do the raid say the first few run ,before blizzard take those raid 1 or two notch down because most feel its too hard
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quality PvE in MMOs?? i thought it was called GRIND...
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Why is everyone calling this a typical eastern grinder????? You grind no more or less then EVERY otther western MMO out here. It has nothing to do with it being a eastern themed game. Course, I can't get pissed about it cause if it didn't have that eastern look you would just say its your typical wow clone. So which is it? WoW clone? Eastern grinder? Or maybe perhaps trolls that don't like MMO's in general should just stop playing MMO and stop posting here like they actually know something. |
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Originally posted by Tyvolus3
Agreed. |
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Originally posted by Elreic
I stopped reading here WoW: retired hardcore mage (bored) |
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Originally posted by durkdreven
I stopped reading here This is a message to the general populace of MMORPG.com as it is literally a black hole of fun that once you are swallowed up by, it is very hard to escape and makes everything in gaming a little less fun. Best thing you can do is do your own research and stop reading these boards because nothing will ever be good enough and everything will suck always forever if it makes its way into a discussion here. |
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Originally posted by triprunner
MMOs can have fun and entertaining quest lines. I typically find the ones that add a element of humor to also be entertaining. There are quests in Aion that could be fun, but NCsoft misses the boat alot. The cute frog is a great example. The quest is fun when you can find her quickly but non fun when you have an hour wait time while everybody spams macros trying to get the frog. |
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Like i have posted many other times ppl are 41 now just little over a week into the game ? http://na.aiononline.com/livestatus/ranking/playerlist . Now show where the grind is when i get tells all day long about "Power lvl for you 1-40 $ 200.00 in 7 days" ??? How fast do you want to lvl ? PPL bitch you lvl too fast and there is no end game (AoC) then ppl bitch it takes too long to max lvl (FFXI) ? So where do you draw the line Played Aoc/DDO/FFXI/WAR Waiting for FFXIV =)) |
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No matter what you do, some people will never, and I mean NEVER EVER be happy. Actually, i guess the one thing that makes them happy is complaining and trying to detory somethng, anything. When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you. |
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Originally posted by Elreic
You judging a video game at under half level, is like some level 35 on WoW telling me PvE in WoW is horrid because SM Library is gay and getting old.
Get a clue, all you people who quit games before you reach max level and see what the game has to offer, astound me, You're so blind.
Grats on wasting your money to pay for a game you aren't even going to try to max level. I afterall thought that was the POINT of playing a new MMO. |
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Why do you think WoW hardly loses players to other games ? Because they see they can do the same thing in WoW as they can do in Aion except the flying thing but WoW has mounts so no need to fly. Aion is just a typical vanilla mmo, nothing more. This game is centered around pvp so it won't be long before this game completely fails in the NA/US. PvP centric mmos do not succeed in the NA/US. |
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Originally posted by Zandora2018 your right in some game its too fast in some game its too slow gamer are rarelly fully satistied i think aion as a good leveling speed no too fast not too slow but then wow was speeded up each expension so leveling at vanilla wow speed for a lot will take getting used too |
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I like how Aion questing makes you talk to sixteen different people before they eventually give you quests that pretty much makes you kill every single monster type in the area and then gather every single resource in the area. It's like... partake of our story... but this is all we've got... go kill 12 Moss Spirits and 10 Vespines. Yeah this game is pretty grindy. Just look at the plethora of 0/100 repeat quests in the game. In most cases the quests aren't even worth doing. Just find mobs your level or level +1 and grind them and you'll end up leveling quite a bit faster. The problem with Aion grinding is that the basic gameplay is so "been there,done that!". |
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Originally posted by Pesmergia
You judging a video game at under half level, is like some level 35 on WoW telling me PvE in WoW is horrid because SM Library is gay and getting old.
Get a clue, all you people who quit games before you reach max level and see what the game has to offer, astound me, You're so blind.
Grats on wasting your money to pay for a game you aren't even going to try to max level. I afterall thought that was the POINT of playing a new MMO. Some of us are smart enough to realize that the game isn't worth it for us before our /played get into weeks. If we don't want to spend literally days of our lives playing a game that we may not even like... that's hardly a position that you can find much fault with. I mean, I made it to the Abyss... ran around and PvPed, and I just wasn't very impressed at all. How much more of the game do I really need to see to make a judgement call on whether or not the game would be a worthwhile investment? If a game feels stale at 28, after you've been playing and PvPing in the Abyss, the game is more than likely going to feel pretty stale at 50 too, where the end game is still focused around the exact same thing. |
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Originally posted by red_cruiser Some of us are smart enough to realize that the game isn't worth it for us before our /played get into weeks. If we don't want to spend literally days of our lives playing a game that we may not even like... that's hardly a position that you can find much fault with. I mean, I made it to the Abyss... ran around and PvPed, and I just wasn't very impressed at all. How much more of the game do I really need to see to make a judgement call on whether or not the game would be a worthwhile investment? If a game feels stale at 28, after you've been playing and PvPing in the Abyss, the game is more than likely going to feel pretty stale at 50 too, where the end game is still focused around the exact same thing.
You honestly can't say any of that. You miss so much end game. WoW is NOTHING like I thought it would be before I got to 80, it was actually a bit better. You're comparing running SM Library and saying "well this game isn't for me" besides raiding Ulduar dude, it makes no sense. You saying you can "tell" if a game is good, without experiencing any raid content end game, or any of the end game perks is like telling me you can read the future, because you aren't experiencing anything the game has to offer. Yeah you PvPed at a low level, thats like saying you just started PvPing on WoW at level 19 and getting 1-2 shot by twinks and said you hate it, yeah man you explored PvP well-through LMFAO. You did no arena and experienced class balance (and imbalance LOL).
Saying a game is stale at 28... WoW is stale at 28, WoW is stale all the way until 80 are you kidding me? The same boring quests we've all done a million times, the same 2 battlegrounds, the same boring skill-less instances a Ret Paladin can main heal versus 80 where you need gear and spec to be able to heal even half good.
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LOL..grind??? Have none of you play Everquest? A grind is when you are spending all day going through a Hell Level sitting in the Lake of Ill Omen Zone. ALL DAY...KILLING THE SAME NPCS OVER AND OVER..and we loved it! You spend an hour and a half on a level and whine that it is a grind....ridiculous....kids these days |
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Originally posted by metalhead980
Not true. See EQ2. 
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The REAL problem is the gamers. Apparently 90% of people have appointed themselves as professional MMO juges who's opinion is fact. I can't believe some of the absolute rubbish I'm reading here. I'm not going to say that Aion is great, or that WoW is 10X better, because to be quite frank it would be like comparing the car you have driven for the last 10 years of your life to the most recent model of that car which you got to sit in and not even turn the engine on. How on earth are you comparing a game when NONE of you have experienced the end game content? Absurd. If you play MMO's to experience the leveling quests, the grind, leveling professions, then quit when you reach end level - sure, your views count towards this audience. Let's put it into another perspective. Let's say it takes the average gamer 3 months to reach max level. Let's assume that the average gamer plays Aion for 4 years. Let's also set aside 2 months per year following the first devoted to pure leveling - alt, higher level cap etc. Keeping in mind that this is a generous amount of time, this equates to 3 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 9 months of leveling. 4 years X 12 months = 48 Months 48 - 9 = 39 This assumption, which is very genourous, is then turned into a percentage. 9 of 48 is 18.75%, ONLY 18.75% OF YOUR TIME PLAYING AION IN THE NEXT 4 YEARS IS RELATED TO LEVELING. But why stop there? So far, the game has been out for (say) 1.5 weeks which of the three months leveling expected in the initial year, is equivalent to experiencing 18% of the leveling content. 18 % of 18.75% is 3.38% of the game, 0% of which is end game content. So, statistically you are all carrying on over about 3.38% of Aion. If that isn't jumping to conclusions, then I don't know what is.
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Jackio81
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Joined: 11/11/08
The MMO genre as a whole is a running joke considering a 5+ year old game is so dominant. |
Originally posted by Channce
No, just in a game like this, a well made WoW copycat MMO with a horrible direction....grinding sucks period and most MMOs will have it up the A, but this game really takes the cake....Warhammer at least had the courtesy of giving PvP content early on in the game even though the rest of the game sucked. Forcing "PvP" players to grind this much to get anywhere is just a really bad idea and it's leaving this game feeling stale and boring, it's like watching a beautiful painting decay away after a 1000 years of erosion......=( |
Originally posted by Jinaex
You know if you are going to enjoy a meal after a few mouthfulls - you dont need to finish off the entire meal to judge it. If people didnt jump to conclusions before judging something in this case a game, then people would have to endure the entire game for this elusive 'amazing endgame content' that fanboys often waffle on about, I prefer not to waste money on a poor product and more importantly waste my time pretending that playing a game all way through is the only way to decide if a game is good. |
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I think that no amount of end-game goodness can save a game for a player who feels burdened by the boredom that is leveling in this game. You can say that one isn't entitled to an opinion before seeing this ever-elusive end-game but atleast for me it starts to feel too much; queues together with a lack of innovation on the leveling experience makes me a sad camper. And before you say WoW this and that, I can safely say that the first time over in WoW I felt epic adventures with my toon running instances and doing glorious questlines (back then Scarlet Monastery was pretty darn badass). You cannot compare first-time experience to one you get when you have done the same thing dozen times over. I still remember first time driving a car was fun and exciting but as a daily chore it is very much the opposite...
The bait on Aion that is PvP is set too far ahead. You can call me a carebear or a cupcake lover but atleast I want to enjoy the game from the first hour. Frankly, at times I feel like grinding to level 150 on some silly MUD where only source of experience was killing giants. Back then I just didn't know of better multiplayer experience but now that there is a plethora of options this game's leveling environment is hostile enough for me to get desperate. Aion just doesn't give me enough of a reason to log in for a bit of grind that might some day reward me with good experience. I don't mind if the leveling will be a fraction of my total game time as currently it is roughly 100% of my game time and that is 100% pure boredom. |
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Isn't the real problem that at least you must have fun while you adventure in a game. The goal is to adventure in a world, having fun discovering that world and advance you character, wether if it is at level 4 or 44 or end game The moment you even "think" in levels and "levels" become your goal, the game ended as an adventure and becomes grind. "Now I have to kill 70 more monsters to reach level 34" means game X as an adventure fails.
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Well, pve isnt just quests, its also dungeons and raiding bosses. And the fact it that im having more fun doing dungeons in aion than i had in a long time on wow. true, wow's pve is crap right now, a bunch of aoe tank and spank instances and raids, but the fact is that dungeons here brought back the challenge, the strategies, the crowd control, everything i loved in old wow and some other games ive played before, so im happy, and ill stick to aion for some time. Playing: Aion, World of Warcraft, Dragon Age Origins |
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Originally posted by nuififun
You know if you are going to enjoy a meal after a few mouthfulls - you dont need to finish off the entire meal to judge it. If people didnt jump to conclusions before judging something in this case a game, then people would have to endure the entire game for this elusive 'amazing endgame content' that fanboys often waffle on about, I prefer not to waste money on a poor product and more importantly waste my time pretending that playing a game all way through is the only way to decide if a game is good.
Hi, you didn't even eat a mouthful of the meal yet. you have just seen it, maybe smelt it. You also didn't read my post in its entirety or did not understand. Please see 'relativity'
Edit: even better, you have only eaten the green vegetables from the meal you are judging and you have come to a conclusion already (FYI the meal is a meat dish with a side of vegetables) |
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