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  shadowfox561

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Joined: 8/16/08
Posts: 17

Insanity is just a way of evolving to fit into this insane world.

9/26/09 3:32:20 AM#76
Originally posted by neonwire


 

Yes of course how can you possibly compare them? The only things they have in common are......
 

A game world with its own lore
A character creation system where you can.......
Change your appearance and........
Choose your race and class
Skill trees
NPC's
Quests to complete
Mobs to kill with limited AI and an aggro radius
EXP points to be gained from doing the above which lead to.......
Levels to be gained which lead to......
Areas designated to various level ranges
Crafting system to make stuff
Harvesting skills to gather ingredients
Recipes/blueprints
Loot to be found from killing and crafting things
Grouping options
Solo and group content
Areas designed for raiding and other group activities
Zone, global, group, whisper, say chat systems
Mounts
Pets
Control method using the WASD keys
An action bar containing all of your skills/attacks etc
Auto targeting
Swimming-no swimming in most mmo's out there >.>
You can jump
A map with a radar
Quest journals
PvP features
Minimal death penalty
Auction house run by the players
Multiple servers
Any other little bits and bobs which I have probably missed
 

Apart from those things they are completely different games. Yeah its totally amazing that anyone finds any reason to compare them. What on earth is wrong with people?! They must be mad!


 

Yes this is true but those are the factors that well describe a MMO period being on this site you can just go click the MMO list and see all the other games out there with these amazing up to date features.... (pss sarcasm incase you cant tell)... but yah what ever... since WoW was a clone of the games that were there before it... people just need to stop bringing WoW into the picture say like Aions crafting system is not as advanced as Vanguards but at least it doesnt have as many glitches, or there is more freedom of movement in this game then guild wars... blah blah blah i am also tired of hearing about WoW when i am playing Aion so much so only chats i have active are party and Exp now. but i think it is these people who think they are MMO experts because they joined in the WoW crowd and all they know and have ever played is WoW and have finally gotten bored and are looking for somethign other then WoW. but little do most of them know that there are many other MMO's out there more allot better then WoW. broaden your horrizon and get to know the market before making compairisons.

ok rant done... i really had to get that out of my system...

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  Tyvolus2

Novice Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 13

9/26/09 1:23:50 PM#77
Originally posted by Eben
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
Originally posted by Eben
Originally posted by Stevon
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.

 

Aion is a WoW clone with some changes to make it "unique" and "newer" graphics.  Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

On top of that WoW is the better game hands down.   Aion will be around, but it won't come close to WoW by a LONG shot

 

Agreed.  As an example, I actually saw Aion in a store this evening, although its amazing I was able to notice it.  I was rather interested in seeing the game box on shelves, since I bought mine off Steam.  So I moved aside the cardboard display for HDMI cables that was in front of the 5 little Aion boxes on the far left of the bottom shelf, and took a look.  Nice looking box, metal, sorta reminded me of the deluxe X360 and Wii games I've seen.  Reached back around the display, tossed it back on the bottom shelf, and glanced up at the entire row of Blizzard games, lining up the top shelf, right at eye level, and saw the reality of the situation for what it is. 

Subconsciously, I think whomever stocked the shelves knew the same thing, and definitely knew where Aion belongs.  

I bought the game at Best Buy.  AION eye-level - wow bottom shelf.  Funny how my experience was completely different then yours.  I bet one of us is lying.
 

I'd say you were lying, were I not more amazed that you actually left your basement.  Kudos on seeing the outside world. 

No dude, its cool.  We all believe you.  We all KNOW that stores stock brand new merchandise that are expected to move more then its fair share of units on the bottom shelf.   They would rather put games that have been out for a few  years that sell for $19.99 where they can grab the shoppers attention.  Oh and ya, I was born yesterday -- Forgot to mention that as well.


 

  Wrender

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/03/04
Posts: 1149

The truth shall set you free!
The truth shall piss you off!

9/26/09 1:30:05 PM#78
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.


 

Simple solution to the problem...Play Elyos ...all the WOW players are playing Asmodian especially on West coast servers. I have made chars on several servers with both factions and every time it's the same thing. Elyos is where the mature players seem to go. Everyone who has played WOW are evil minded and corrupt little asshats ...They all play Asmodian!

  Tyvolus2

Novice Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 13

9/26/09 1:33:06 PM#79
Originally posted by Wrender
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.


 

Simple solution to the problem...Play Elyos ...all the WOW players are playing Asmodian especially on West coast servers. I have made chars on several servers with both factions and every time it's the same thing. Elyos is where the mature players seem to go. Everyone who has played WOW are evil minded and corrupt little asshats ...They all play Asmodian!

I play Elyos -- and I have seen ALOT of ex-wow players.  Many are in my legion ex-wow.  AION will not kill wow, but it has a chance to take a portion of its players away permanently.  
 

  Wrender

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/03/04
Posts: 1149

The truth shall set you free!
The truth shall piss you off!

9/26/09 1:35:15 PM#80
Originally posted by Tyvolus2
Originally posted by Wrender
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.


 

Simple solution to the problem...Play Elyos ...all the WOW players are playing Asmodian especially on West coast servers. I have made chars on several servers with both factions and every time it's the same thing. Elyos is where the mature players seem to go. Everyone who has played WOW are evil minded and corrupt little asshats ...They all play Asmodian!

I play Elyos -- and I have seen ALOT of ex-wow players.  Many are in my legion ex-wow.  AION will not kill wow, but it has a chance to take a portion of its players away permanently.  
 

Yeah there are still a lot but not nearly as bad as on Asmodian... Trust me!
 

  Tyvolus2

Novice Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 13

9/26/09 1:45:36 PM#81
Originally posted by Wrender
Originally posted by Tyvolus2
Originally posted by Wrender
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.


 

Simple solution to the problem...Play Elyos ...all the WOW players are playing Asmodian especially on West coast servers. I have made chars on several servers with both factions and every time it's the same thing. Elyos is where the mature players seem to go. Everyone who has played WOW are evil minded and corrupt little asshats ...They all play Asmodian!

I play Elyos -- and I have seen ALOT of ex-wow players.  Many are in my legion ex-wow.  AION will not kill wow, but it has a chance to take a portion of its players away permanently.  
 

Yeah there are still a lot but not nearly as bad as on Asmodian... Trust me!
 

well, that I dont doubt you.  Glad I picked the right side !!
 

  User Deleted
9/26/09 3:02:16 PM#82

/Agreed go back to wow complainers

  natuxatu

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 11/12/03
Posts: 1271

Bookah

9/26/09 3:09:32 PM#83

It hasn't been so bad on my server (Ariel) .. i mean it has.. but not as bad as you would expect considering its launch week... ever mmo is going to be compared to WoW.. even Champion's Online was in the chats... *shrug*

Playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan. Champions Online, Aion
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI

  Tyvolus3

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 76

9/26/09 6:09:19 PM#84
Originally posted by camp11111

A very simple solution to this problem :

Do not play WOW based copies.

We saw it in TR, we saw it in AoC and we saw it in War.

People started en mass to play mmorpg's with Wow, it is normal they compare it and want to try others.

Oh btw, even in the most important launching week Aion hardly made a scratch on Wow number of players. Frightening really.

It shows most people come have a look, wonder around and indeed go back to WOW, even in the first week of a hyped launch.


 

I dont see any problems and I enjoy AION.  Thats why I play AION and dont listen to people like you.  In other words you mean nothing to people like me who enjoy AION.  Get it ?

  Tyvolus3

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 76

9/26/09 6:09:55 PM#85
Originally posted by Eben
Originally posted by Tyvolus1
Originally posted by Eben
Originally posted by Stevon
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.

 

Aion is a WoW clone with some changes to make it "unique" and "newer" graphics.  Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

On top of that WoW is the better game hands down.   Aion will be around, but it won't come close to WoW by a LONG shot

 

Agreed.  As an example, I actually saw Aion in a store this evening, although its amazing I was able to notice it.  I was rather interested in seeing the game box on shelves, since I bought mine off Steam.  So I moved aside the cardboard display for HDMI cables that was in front of the 5 little Aion boxes on the far left of the bottom shelf, and took a look.  Nice looking box, metal, sorta reminded me of the deluxe X360 and Wii games I've seen.  Reached back around the display, tossed it back on the bottom shelf, and glanced up at the entire row of Blizzard games, lining up the top shelf, right at eye level, and saw the reality of the situation for what it is. 

Subconsciously, I think whomever stocked the shelves knew the same thing, and definitely knew where Aion belongs.  

I bought the game at Best Buy.  AION eye-level - wow bottom shelf.  Funny how my experience was completely different then yours.  I bet one of us is lying.
 

I'd say you were lying, were I not more amazed that you actually left your basement.  Kudos on seeing the outside world. 

"were I not more amazed that you actually left your basement"   -- WoW dude your original.  Never saw that one before -- darn your good.
 

  Beezerbeez

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/22/04
Posts: 230

9/26/09 6:24:57 PM#86
Originally posted by Gajari
Originally posted by grunt187

 (and im agnostic/atheist)


 

So which is it? You can't have both. You can't be unsure their is a god or gods and yet entirely disbelieve in their existence.

 

Off topic much?  I think what you're saying is that you can't -believe- in both.  A person can certainly keep both as options until his/her mind is made up... if ever.

On topic, I'm sure the chat will calm down after a month or two but don't expect it to go away completely.

 

 

Noone isn't a word; It's "no one". On a side note, you can guess where the word "none" came from.
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  Tyvolus3

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 76

9/26/09 6:27:12 PM#87
Originally posted by Beezerbeez
Originally posted by Gajari
Originally posted by grunt187

 (and im agnostic/atheist)


 

So which is it? You can't have both. You can't be unsure their is a god or gods and yet entirely disbelieve in their existence.

 

Off topic much?  I think what you're saying is that you can't -believe- in both.  A person can certainly keep both as options until his/her mind is made up... if ever.

On topic, I'm sure the chat will calm down after a month or two but don't expect it to go away completely.

 

 

the chat wont go away as long as AION does well and wow fanboys feel threatened that it will in someway steal players away from their real-life fantasy world they live in.
 

  Lathander81

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 619

I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.

9/26/09 6:45:32 PM#88
Originally posted by Stevon
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.

 

Aion is a WoW clone with some changes to make it "unique" and "newer" graphics.  Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

On top of that WoW is the better game hands down.   Aion will be around, but it won't come close to WoW by a LONG shot

The term "Wow clone" is so stupid. Lets be real for a moment. Just because Aion has components that are similar to WOW does't make it a clone. Me and you problay have 2 eyes and 2 arm but we are not clones.  The fact is some fundemental thinks in the game are a standard in the industry just like any other industry. 

 I think the point of this forum is to say that if you are playing AIon please just play it and enjoy the game. Most people don't want to hear about the comparison in the game.  I don't see why that is hard to understand.
 

  Lathander81

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 619

I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.

9/26/09 6:57:36 PM#89
Originally posted by camp11111

A very simple solution to this problem :

Do not play WOW based copies.

We saw it in TR, we saw it in AoC and we saw it in War.

People started en mass to play mmorpg's with Wow, it is normal they compare it and want to try others.

Oh btw, even in the most important launching week Aion hardly made a scratch on Wow number of players. Frightening really.

It shows most people come have a look, wonder around and indeed go back to WOW, even in the first week of a hyped launch.

You have no facts, you just spew crap out of your pie hole.  The fact is people have gotten used to playing the same game for years but there are other who want to try a new game. Realistically why would a launch of one game effect WOW's numbers? Why don't you learn a little more about the indusrtry before making remarks like that. Why are you hating so hard? Do you feel insecure about your games future? There are 11M people playing WOW it will be a long while before you have to worry about WOW. Just shut your mouth until you can come up with some thing worth saying. Posting crap ther others has posted is just dumb.
 

  Tyvolus3

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 76

9/26/09 9:34:04 PM#90
Originally posted by Lathander81
Originally posted by Stevon
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.

 

Aion is a WoW clone with some changes to make it "unique" and "newer" graphics.  Anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

On top of that WoW is the better game hands down.   Aion will be around, but it won't come close to WoW by a LONG shot

The term "Wow clone" is so stupid. Lets be real for a moment. Just because Aion has components that are similar to WOW does't make it a clone. Me and you problay have 2 eyes and 2 arm but we are not clones.  The fact is some fundemental thinks in the game are a standard in the industry just like any other industry. 

 I think the point of this forum is to say that if you are playing AIon please just play it and enjoy the game. Most people don't want to hear about the comparison in the game.  I don't see why that is hard to understand.
 

well said.
 

  shadowfox561

Novice Member

Joined: 8/16/08
Posts: 17

Insanity is just a way of evolving to fit into this insane world.

9/27/09 5:32:28 AM#91
Originally posted by neonwire
Originally posted by SignusM
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games, WoW was not a "pioneer" game. If anything you guys should be comparing this game to L2.... So please leave my LFG chat and go back to your cartoon that pretends to be an MMO.

END OF LINE.

Welcome to the new world of MMOs where millions of noobs who have never touched a real MMORPG sing WoW's praises as the creator of all RPG mechanics that have been used in MMOs since 1998. WoW is the only MMO I can say without any doubt in my mind, that it did absolutely NOTHING new. Not a single game mechanics was innovated or created. All WoW is, is a kid friendly cut down version of EverQuest. But, because they targetted people who don't play MMOs, it was a raving success, and now the rest of the industry suffers under the weight of its fanboys. 
 


 

Whats a real MMO then? No WoW didnt do anything new......but then neither do most MMOs. Most of them seem to follow the same formulae and build on it. WoW just followed that formulae very well......hence its popularity.

WoW is a kid friendly cut-down version of EQ? Hardly. It simply took all the mindless mob grinding and dressed it up with quests and little stories to help disguise the repetitive gameplay. I have fond memories of playing the original EQ but if I went back to it now I'm pretty sure I would find it extremely boring. Even EQ's sequel followed exactly the same path as WoW. Kids were and still are quite capable of playing the original EQ. It wasnt that complicated ya know. I think you probably just have an inflated view of "the good old days".

Oh and the industry isnt "suffering under the weight of its fanboys". Its making shit loads of money out of them.


 

Every MMO out there has brought something new to the table and HAS NOT BEEN A WoW CLONE...

every mmo has the same elements, listed earlier in this forum and am not going to list them again, WoW just has nothing to make it different or unique the discription of an MMO is WoW if you take everythign WoW has that is the discription of an MMO...

here are examples of things that make MMO's different and unique an new...

AoC(2008)- Pushed MMO Graphics and inovative Battle system.

CoH(2004)- Brought the idea of Super Heroes to the MMO world.

DDO(2006)- the private instance questing system with a central social area.

EQ&EQ2- pushed MMO's to a new Level and Created a new standard in 1999, 5 years before world of warcrafts release in 2004

FFXI(2003)- Sub jobbing and swithcing jobs on the fly.

FLYFF(2005)- F2P Item shop Model inovation.

Guild Wars(2005)- PVP driven game with a F2P Model.

LoTRO(2007)- MMO based off a beloved book.

Vangaurd(2007)- Inovative crafting System and Parley card battle system... and a million different glitches...

WoW(2004)- Huge ad Budget which made millions of Non-gamers(AKA noobs) join the MMO world... other then that not much inovation there...

 

and finally Aion(2009)- with the new World Style Lore and Fantasy based Weapons and Armour. even the wings has been done before with Perfect world.

 

i know i didnt list all the MMO's and their key features that set them apart and what made them great but these are examples of things that have made the MMO world what it is today and why WoW did not Set the Bar or do anything other then make MMO's Main stream which is not an easy thing to do when 10 years ago geeks were the minority the ones getting picked on at school, now we rule the world.

 

GAMERS AND GEEKS UNITE!

 

-13

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  ronan32

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/05
Posts: 1474

I will never play an mmorpg with Microtransactions

9/27/09 7:42:10 AM#92
Originally posted by Teala

Don't worry in a few months Aion will be just you and a few thousand bots and farmers.  LOL!

 

just like eve.

  LFGroup

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/29/04
Posts: 23

9/27/09 10:05:26 AM#93
Originally posted by grunt187

Hehe after their first free month you'll see a mass exodus back to wow

at least i pray so (and im agnostic/atheist)


 

If only ...

  Saorlan

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Joined: 12/01/07
Posts: 305

The Facophany

9/27/09 10:13:08 AM#94

This thread is funny, an AION lover protesting against WOW lovers.... that is Gipsies complaining about Chavs !!!!!!! 

  GTwander

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Joined: 3/14/09
Posts: 4930

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9/27/09 10:24:34 AM#95

The issue is that [3. Find Group] channel is the only server-wide one and gets used for gab. They need a [Eylos/Azmo] chat that people can use so that everyone else can just mute it. The retard factor is high, but since there is no fixing that you can only find ways to divert pressure (as most of it is just hot air).

If you ask me, this common mentality known as "wowtard" being picked up is a byproduct of a person's ability to pick up traits from "friends". When these friends are faceless strangers and using the communication tool that is the internet, you start to see everyone connecting and picking up traits - and therefore the vast majority is now the same boring, annoying and childish person. The Tutty thing is over with, and if I have to hear "hurrrrr" one more time, from anybody (and this goes on in other MMO's too), I swear...

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  Wickedjelly

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Posts: 2513

The Dude abides

9/27/09 10:31:09 AM#96
Originally posted by Katilla

seriously, i am sick to death of logging in, seeing WoW all over the chat, leaving the channel.....Even in the LFG channel all it is, is a discussion about WoW this and WoW that....stop comparing the 2 games...


 

I took out what I disagree with but as for what I quoted I have to agree.  The whole thing is so getting so beaten to death anymore it isn't even funny.  Between the constant need to compare the two games and the utter lack of respect directed towards others or bringing up the same old, overused "jokes" over and over again is so annoying.

I really wish this game had two additional chat channels in it. One should be for legions to spam their adverts in so it doesn't clog up the finding group channel, and the other should be for spam where people can argue with each other to their hearts content about whatever floats their boat.  Make them both global channels as well that way people don't have to tune out everyone like they do now if they don't want to deal with all the garbage that goes on in these channels now.

I'm all for chat channels but it seems to be getting worse and worse in mmos far as what goes on in these channels.  The companies don't help matters any either because they really do a pisspoor job having gms oversee the channels until it gets out of hand to a point they have to intervene due to how many complaints they receive.

 

1.For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2.To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

  Tinagame

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9/27/09 8:10:44 PM#97

 

Another Forum turned troll bait.

WoW is cool in its own way.

AION is cool in its own way.

As AION is new what you are getting is what every new game that has been hyped up to finally launch gets. TROLL Flu.

Do Not Panic. This strange TROLL Flu will naturally clear itself up in a month or so. Until then try to resist the urge to beat your computer and find a like minded legion/guild or group of friends to weather this out with.

  Cyborg99

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All your base are belong to us....

9/27/09 8:15:56 PM#98

I played WoW for 3 years and I thought the community was fine, maybe it's the aion community your having a problem with. From what I see on this forum and in aion beta is that aion has a bad community when compared to WoW community because it''s all the ppl who are jealous of WoW's success.

Trolls = Hardcore
Fanbois = Carebears


The only posts I read in threads are my own.

  Kraav

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9/27/09 8:39:47 PM#99

Learn not to care and you'll be happier. But were you surprised? I'm surprised if you were.

ESS O ESS. O ESS O. OR ESS? Bah, fuck it, just call 911.

  DerekGordon

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9/27/09 8:41:06 PM#100

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