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9/26/09 9:42:49 PM#26
Originally posted by Tyvolus3 if you had a GF you could GRIND her.
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9/26/09 9:53:32 PM#27
Originally posted by altairzq
You are so right. Doing quest that say go kill this and go get that is not a grind. I did 4 years of Lineage 2 and Aion is a total breath of fresh air for me because its not a grind. To each his own I guess. |
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9/26/09 10:43:02 PM#28
Originally posted by Tyvolus3 it seems every day one of these ignorant clowns makes a post about a grind existing in AION -- You fools who keep starting threads about the grind, need to get this through your heads -- ALL MMO's HAVE GRINDS -- EVERY LAST DAM ONE OF THEM -- PERIOD. END OF STORY. If you DO NOT LIKE the MMO grind, then please by all means give up playing MMO's -- why you ask ? BECAUSE ALL MMO's HAVE GRINDS. Buy a Wii, play a FPS, get John Madden FB -- or better yet go outside for a nice jog. Not all MMO's make you repeat a quest 50 times to gain levels. A few mmo's have a good story and quests so you don't really notice a grind. However Aion is a Korean game therefore will have one hell of a grind, more so than any western mmo we play. RF Online was a eastern to western MMO and it did have a big grind and look how well the game did. (its shut down) Fact is, Aion isn't your normal mmo grind, its much worse and it will get even worse before it starts looking better. It was designed as a grinder. If you think it will be like any other MMO grind then you will be mistaken, its not a western MMO, Don't expect it to play like one.
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9/26/09 10:48:38 PM#29
One things im liking about aion is that grinding is a good alternative to lvling. I hate quest driven mmogs. Seriously why does my character have to be the worlds personal b*tch. Oh my cats in a tree run for 30 minutes kill 50 ents and run back to me for 30 minutes. I hate quests. Love to grind though specialy in groups. Thats why i still play mmos. Grinding a dungeon goofing off with a bunch of players. YA thats why i pay 15 dollars a month for. Not to go do some cheesy story saving npc number 200000583883. |
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9/26/09 10:53:16 PM#30
Originally posted by Jimmy562 Not all MMO's make you repeat a quest 50 times to gain levels. A few mmo's have a good story and quests so you don't really notice a grind. However Aion is a Korean game therefore will have one hell of a grind, more so than any western mmo we play. RF Online was a eastern to western MMO and it did have a big grind and look how well the game did. (its shut down) Fact is, Aion isn't your normal mmo grind, its much worse and it will get even worse before it starts looking better. It was designed as a grinder. "Not all MMO's make you repeat a quest 50 times to gain levels." -- been playing since 9/22 and so far I can honestly say -- NEITHER DOES AION. nice try though. Where did you get this from ? Because after saying this, it is painfully obvious you are quite ignorant when it comes to AION... "A few mmo's have a good story and quests so you don't really notice a grind." So far, the storyline in AION is pretty good. What MMOs are you referring to that have a good storyline ? -- Just curious since you make a point, but for some reason cant or wont back it up with a name or two... " However Aion is a Korean game therefore will have one hell of a grind, more so than any western mmo we play." hmm interesting...lets take a look at the most popular MMO out there today -- WoW. It has a gold grind, faction grind, quest grind, xp grind, pvp/battleground grind, Arena grind, instanced - repetitive dungeon grind....need I continue ? "RF Online was a eastern to western MMO and it did have a big grind and look how well the game did. (its shut down)" -- ummm, ok. Are you trying to insinuate AION will shut down as well because its a eastern MMO ? I mean please explain your point -- its not very clear -- western MMOs habe shut down as well -- and Im serious explain your point, if you have one ? "Fact is, Aion isn't your normal mmo grind, its much worse and it will get even worse before it starts looking better. It was designed as a grinder." -- Fact is -- EVERY MMO HAS A GRIND -- AGAIN -- FACT IS EVERY MMO HAS A GRIND..... Now thats a REAL FACT...explain to me how "Aion isn't your normal mmo grind" Is a fact as you say and not your opinion ? --- Im listening... oh and have some guys and tell us what MMO you play ? --
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9/26/09 11:02:55 PM#31
Originally posted by Tyvolus3 Not all MMO's make you repeat a quest 50 times to gain levels. A few mmo's have a good story and quests so you don't really notice a grind. However Aion is a Korean game therefore will have one hell of a grind, more so than any western mmo we play. RF Online was a eastern to western MMO and it did have a big grind and look how well the game did. (its shut down) Fact is, Aion isn't your normal mmo grind, its much worse and it will get even worse before it starts looking better. It was designed as a grinder. "Not all MMO's make you repeat a quest 50 times to gain levels." -- been playing since 9/22 and so far I can honestly say -- NEITHER DOES AION. nice try though. Where did you get this from ? Because after saying this, it is painfully obvious you are quite ignorant when it comes to AION... "A few mmo's have a good story and quests so you don't really notice a grind." So far, the storyline in AION is pretty good. What MMOs are you referring to that have a good storyline ? -- Just curious since you make a point, but for some reason cant or wont back it up with a name or two... " However Aion is a Korean game therefore will have one hell of a grind, more so than any western mmo we play." hmm interesting...lets take a look at the most popular MMO out there today -- WoW. It has a gold grind, faction grind, quest grind, xp grind, pvp/battleground grind, Arena grind, instanced - repetitive dungeon grind....need I continue ? "RF Online was a eastern to western MMO and it did have a big grind and look how well the game did. (its shut down)" -- ummm, ok. Are you trying to insinuate AION will shut down as well because its a eastern MMO ? I mean please explain your point -- its not very clear -- western MMOs habe shut down as well -- and Im serious explain your point, if you have one ? "Fact is, Aion isn't your normal mmo grind, its much worse and it will get even worse before it starts looking better. It was designed as a grinder." -- Fact is -- EVERY MMO HAS A GRIND -- AGAIN -- FACT IS EVERY MMO HAS A GRIND..... Now thats a REAL FACT...explain to me how "Aion isn't your normal mmo grind" Is a fact as you say and not your opinion ? --- Im listening... oh and have some guys and tell us what MMO you play ? --
Just stop playing the game.... so people who want to play can get in don't have to wait for the Q that long. People are having fun, if you don't like it. Just leave the game please, really hate the long Q time. |
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9/26/09 11:03:10 PM#32
Im' not sure there's that much to do even if you reach the level cap. I think people are expecting this to be wow. They need to reach the level cap to do dungeons, raid, or pvp. |
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9/26/09 11:05:00 PM#33
Originally posted by laokoko
Im not sure you have any idea you know what your talking about since you: A) dont play the game B) never made it anywhere near the level cap. sorry Sally...But you LOSE !!
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9/26/09 11:19:32 PM#34
Originally posted by laokoko
huh? You start pvp around 20, 25 is going to PvP zone and there are dungeons and raid at lower lvl so really no idea what he is talking about??? |
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9/26/09 11:29:39 PM#35
Well, I recently re-subbed to WOW (haven't played since launch) played for 3 days then bought Aion(Darkfall was kinda disappointing and Mortal Online won't be out for...awhile? I needed something to play). The Quest/Grind level in WOW and Aion is almost exactly the same, just as is the type of quest and the level of repetition. If you like the PvE in WOW, you will either like it in Aion or you are trying too hard not to like it. The Flying is kinda cool, the storyline is interesting enough. There is nothing very innovative or revolutionary about the game, but it is worth 50 bucks plus a $15 sub for a few months till something better comes out, and beats the alternatives. |
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9/26/09 11:37:07 PM#36
We need a new word describing what a real grind is. Everyone is using the word grind to describe an MMORPG that just isn't for them. |
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9/26/09 11:41:08 PM#37
I feel like a lot of the people in this thread are mentally challenged where the others are on the money. ALL MMO's have quests to kill X or travel and talk to Joe blow... Other than darkfall that Darkfalls PvE is the whackest of whack... Then some people are saying "Typical Asian grinder" LMFAO... Typical huh... i'm 23, some people are 30+ sounds more like a WoW clone than an asian grinder as I have quested all the way through not a single session of "Grinding" mobs for xp or even being forced to. So if by quest grinding = asian grinder ... then EQ, EQ2, WOW and all other mmo's are Asian grinders.
so please... stfu. If you dont like it thats one thing... but pretend your an adult and move on to something you do like which is prolly not an MMO. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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9/26/09 11:50:14 PM#38
Is killing mobs a viable alternative to questing? I don't mind some quests, but frankly I'm sick of having to do a ton of questing to level. Most MMOs I played pre WoW I rarely quested, but it seems most games since WoW, can't get anywhere if you don't quest. |
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Tisiphone
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Joined: 3/16/04
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9/26/09 11:52:55 PM#39
Absolutely. And the dropped gear is as good as the quest reward gear.
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9/26/09 11:56:26 PM#40
Would you rather a game where you sit in the same camp spot, pulling the same mobs, for hours on ends? Would you rather a game where you have to camp for hours and hours killing the same mobs over and over, just waiting for another mob to spawn that could take 12 -/+ hours to spawn? Perhaps spending weeks if you get unlucky? People are so spoiled these days in MMO's with the whole concept of "mounts" and honestly while playing Aion, I haven't felt the NEED to grind once. I have sat and ground out some exp while waiting for night time to come to have a certain mob that only comes out at night to spawn for the quest I was currently doing, but could have easily gone on to do other quests and come back later. The beauty of the "flying" system, lies in it's gliding. If you figure out how to use the terrain to your advantage to keep gliding and bouncing back up (as well as learning how to bounce while gliding) you will be able to make much more use out of it than you originally expected. In a way, it's sort of like having a mount, you just don't have to stop to use it (and it's more situational.) As for quests.. Sure, some quests may seem bolt-on.. but then again, you must not pay much attention to the over-all going on of the game. Also, you haven't even gotten to the Abyss yet. The whole aim of the game pre-25/30 is to gear you towards your days in the Abyss. Also, if you REALLY pay attention, you will notice that a LOT of the side quests are involved with the campaign quest for a certain area. As far as lore goes, how can you compare this game to a game like WoW... or lotro, or even Conan? All these games have some kind of lore built up behind them for years (Hello, lord of the rings has 20+ years behind the damn thing). If you played all the warcraft games, or read the lord of the rings books... you're going to know the overall story. With Aion, you have to learn as you go, and pay attention. If you skipped through watching lord of the rings just to watch all the epic battles, would you know what was going on? No. All's you would hear is the name of the town millions of times, who they're fighting, and whats going on during the battle. You use the term "grinding" too losely. But you need to realize, that no matter where you go.. you're always going to have to grind to SOME degree. Name one game that you don't have some kind of time sink to get to the end game. If you want to be really extreme about it, every single player RPG can be considered a grinder, because you grind your way through a story line and progress accordingly. Isn't that what you do in MMO's but with more freedom, interaction, and a never-ending story? Get your head out of your ass, and give it a chance. If you go into a game thinking it's going to be a grind, or really anything completely NEW and DIFFERENT, you're going to be sadly mistaken and let down - and worst of all - it will be a self induced grind. |
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9/26/09 11:56:44 PM#41
Originally posted by Tisiphone
Good to hear. I was probably going to buy aion anyway, but might go pick it up tonight after all, hehe. |
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9/26/09 11:58:42 PM#42
LOL...some of you people just floor me thinking this game is a grind. Yes their is somewhat a grind but no where near the grind you WoW nubs think. I'll admit the PvE is a bit lacking in some ways but not really bad, I have played some MMO's with bad PvE but this is not one of them, hell i even found a grind in WoW (rep grind, recipe grind, gear grind). Just think most of you complaining this bad just don't have patience anymore, which is a sad fact now-a-days. Currently playing: |
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9/26/09 11:58:56 PM#43
It's a great buy, I personally love it and by the every server having max players + during prime time the rest of the IS os too regardless to forum trolls. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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9/27/09 12:02:31 AM#44
Love how people try to race to max lvl than start saying its a grind.. well yeah its less then a week and your on it all day... Give it a break and play acouple hours a day or somthing, man i haven't grinded yet, and im sure when i get 25+ i'll start doing PvP alot more and thats never a grind, at least for me it isn't.
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9/27/09 12:05:31 AM#45
Mobs = much better xp compared to most quest grinders.
... quite the grind I must say... maybe they should give xp for loggging on or pressing WASD too.. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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9/27/09 4:32:34 AM#46
Those that are saying it's a grind want to reach cap till their free month is FREE but since they won't reach it in time with their whining they just say it's an asian grinder.
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9/27/09 4:35:26 AM#47
Originally posted by Tailz2k7
I'm with you. I'm having a blast with the game so far. Most fun I've had in quite some time.
1.For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2.To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. |
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9/27/09 4:37:47 AM#48
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
I'm with you. I'm having a blast with the game so far. Most fun I've had in quite some time.
Bringo. Best game I've played since DAoC. It's nice to actually have a decent RvR game to play again, especially since Warhammer was such a letdown. I also like how it actually has some difficulty/effort required to do things, such as leveling. Everything has been so watered down and handed to everyone. Nothing means anything anymore in half the MMOs out there because your decisions can either be reversed (faction transfers, really WoW?) or the rewards are just handed to you/everyone so you don't feel bad ;;. Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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9/27/09 4:45:44 AM#49
I totally agree with you Jimmy |
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stayontarget
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Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
9/27/09 5:29:06 AM#50
OP, Aoc & Lotr are gear towards pve and pvp is just a side show. Aion is more focused in pvp (hell you don't even get instanced dungeons until lvl30). Granted aion has a lot of solo pve and that can be easy mode, but I think the group pve area's make up for it. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
