Greets

i had just resubbed(for a bloody day) back to EQ2  Well if you know anything bout SoE is that you really can't trust/expect em to do right.  but hey that's my oppinion.

what i'm lookin for- the kinda game i'm lookin for is medevil rpg MMO.  something that has a Free trial and pvp.  something with MEANINGFUL crafting and Good even PvP,not Gankfest(wow i'm 80, guess i'll go hang out in the 20's area and slaughter me some noobs) PvP.  a lot of detail in character creation(not really cosmetic, but stat and skill wise and effects etc)

now i'm gonna list the games i played and what i liked and not liked

EQ2 - liked just bout everything in this game.  Especially liked that most areas have pvp lvl restrictions(ie in certain areas it was a 4 lvl rectriction, so if your lvl 15, a lvl 19 and lower could only attack you)  EQ2 had meaningful crafting and it was a descent MMO.  But the AA system(way to further tweak ur char) only allowed you to accumalate points by doing quests, killing special mobs etc etc etc.  the AA points were essential if you were gonna stand a chance in PvP.  well Doing the same quests(and you had to do a BLOODY HELL LOT OF EM) over and over again for each of your chars got Old Real quick.  so i went to other pastures.  Well SOE said that they would install a combat exp transfer slider in the gu53 patch(hence all the xp you accumalate by just doing mindless hack and slash gainst normal mobs would go towards AA points)  What SOE Failed to mention was the slider only went to 50%.  nobody will use that since it'll gimp you anyways(you get 3 AA points allowable for every 2 levels) also SoE in gu53 changed all the races racial stats and is not allowing for a race respec(so imagine ur Raid tank now has racials that are only good for a wizard) THANKYOU SoE

WoW - liked the interface and ease of play of the game, liked the way you always got a point for your tree for every level.  Hated the Gankfest of PvP.  hated that crafting was a moneysink.  Hated that nobody really cared bout the BG's and played like a freaking 2 yr old(mind you this was based on burning crusade)

AoC - couldn't get the free trial to work and spent over 36 straight hours Downloading it(my comp was top of the line last feburary, quad core, 1 gig vid card, 8 gig of Ram, could play Eq2 on realistic and had no probs and i'm on Cable internet)

Rubies of Eventide - didn't like the GMs in there.  actually did a post bout my thoughts of the game.  game, from what i saw of it, had potential, but that's bout it

Vanguard - liked a lot of stuff bout it, just didn't see all that much PvP and not a lot of players

DDO - currently playing that for giggles.  good game but i don't like the resting only at shrine(health and manna doesn't automatically regen) and how everything just feels ur going from one quest to the other. don't even know if there is PvP or crafting, haveonly been playing for like 2 weeks

yea, i know it's a tall order, but hopefully some of you peeps out there have come across a game i may like. 

I'm hoping that the BigWigs at SoE will get thier heads outta the ground and fix the crap on EQ2.  but we're talkin bout SoE here folks.

Thanx for the replies and info Folks.

Joojoo

I'd recommend trying DAOC if you haven't. Don't bother with WAR.

PVP doesn't get much more meaningful. Fairly steep learning curve, so find a good guild ASAP.

14-day trial, no software to buy. All the xpacks are free now. It's a good deal for one of the best MMOs ever made.

New Ywain cluster brought all the servers together, so population is nice.

Out of all the MMOs i've played (god knows how many) EQ and EQ2 sound like the closest there is to what you want. Most games consider tradeskilling (which I personally never do anyway) to be minor. Also most MMOs with PvP i've played don't restrict it to level ranges (which again I disagree with you and like it that way).

You might try one of my favorite old MMOs Shadowbane. It is free and theres no money store or any of that crap. I haven't payed in awhile but they used advertisements when you load into the game as their way to make money. First off the game has no tradeskilling. It is completely focused on PvP. The PvE aspect is just there for you to breeze through. You will want to join a guild very quickly as you get around the world by use of trees and most of them are owned by guilds and are locked to outsiders for good reason. Any guild can attack another guilds tree (the tree sits in the center of their town/castle) and if they succeed they get that tree and the ability to build a town around it. There is loads of small scale PvP around the open trees (which are basicly vendor cities) and there are tree banes where entire guilds set up a time to go to war basicly.

The depth in the character classes/races is there in spades as you choose what parts of a class you want to focus on along with what weapon masteries and which armor types etc. It is fairly balanced but only for group vs. group. One on one it's fairly out of whack as some classes just destroy in one on one. It also has the thief class that most PvP games ignore. If you play one you can steal out of other peoples inventories (things they aren't actually wearing at the time). This is my favorite part of the game honestly. Find someone or a group camping a rune (runes drop off named enemies and give you access to basicly sub classes that you can attach to your character) and steal it off them the second they loot it. I can't tell you how much fun that is if you can pull it off. Have to watch out for scouts though (they reveal hidden characters quite easily so you must play keep away with them).

You must enjoy PvP to play this game and you also must have the patience to get going as you can't just run around open trees and expect to not get massacred. The noob isle is for up to lvl 20 but after that you need to get in a guild so you can level in their territory with their protection. Eventually you'll go on raids into others territories and harass their trees/castles or their hunting parties. Just typing this up makes me want to jump back in and play some more. Kinda went on a rant about SB but it is worth your while if you have the patience to get a guy to a decent level (You can get to max level in less than a week of casual play the PvE is non-existant). I can jump back in and help you out a bit if you decide to try it. Let me know what you think.

Originally posted by DudeTheMan

Out of all the MMOs i've played (god knows how many) EQ and EQ2 sound like the closest there is to what you want. Most games consider tradeskilling (which I personally never do anyway) to be minor. Also most MMOs with PvP i've played don't restrict it to level ranges (which again I disagree with you and like it that way).

You might try one of my favorite old MMOs Shadowbane. It is free and theres no money store or any of that crap. I haven't payed in awhile but they used advertisements when you load into the game as their way to make money. First off the game has no tradeskilling. It is completely focused on PvP. The PvE aspect is just there for you to breeze through. You will want to join a guild very quickly as you get around the world by use of trees and most of them are owned by guilds and are locked to outsiders for good reason. Any guild can attack another guilds tree (the tree sits in the center of their town/castle) and if they succeed they get that tree and the ability to build a town around it. There is loads of small scale PvP around the open trees (which are basicly vendor cities) and there are tree banes where entire guilds set up a time to go to war basicly.

The depth in the character classes/races is there in spades as you choose what parts of a class you want to focus on along with what weapon masteries and which armor types etc. It is fairly balanced but only for group vs. group. One on one it's fairly out of whack as some classes just destroy in one on one. It also has the thief class that most PvP games ignore. If you play one you can steal out of other peoples inventories (things they aren't actually wearing at the time). This is my favorite part of the game honestly. Find someone or a group camping a rune (runes drop off named enemies and give you access to basicly sub classes that you can attach to your character) and steal it off them the second they loot it. I can't tell you how much fun that is if you can pull it off. Have to watch out for scouts though (they reveal hidden characters quite easily so you must play keep away with them).

You must enjoy PvP to play this game and you also must have the patience to get going as you can't just run around open trees and expect to not get massacred. The noob isle is for up to lvl 20 but after that you need to get in a guild so you can level in their territory with their protection. Eventually you'll go on raids into others territories and harass their trees/castles or their hunting parties. Just typing this up makes me want to jump back in and play some more. Kinda went on a rant about SB but it is worth your while if you have the patience to get a guy to a decent level (You can get to max level in less than a week of casual play the PvE is non-existant). I can jump back in and help you out a bit if you decide to try it. Let me know what you think.

not to be a interupter or any thing but iwas reading what you where saying cause i too am looking for a game and i think im going to have to try this shadow bane game the way you explained made me have a little thrill of excitement in my body to test it out =]

Wasn't shadowbane closed down?

Originally posted by Ilgauskas

Wasn't shadowbane closed down?

Yes it's done.

Wow apparently it shutdown in May. About three months after I stopped playing the last time. Going to miss that game a lot. /cry

checkin out DAOC

haven't played it nearly yet, but i take it that this game has been around.

hopefully SoE will remove thier heads out of the ground, but I really Really don't expect that from SoE

thanx for the tips peeps

Hello! ;D

You can try darkfall.

Originally posted by jezvin

You can try darkfall.

hmmmm

pls post the link where u can get the Free Trial

Also checked out DAOC

just not what i was looking for.  but thanx for the suggestion