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maskedweasel
Hard Core Member
Joined: 9/24/07
"Kids, try imagining how far the universe extends! Keep thinking about it until you go insane." |
Originally posted by mbd1968
You are unfortunately making the mistake of making a rational argument from a gamers perspective. What I am telling you is the perspective from the CFO's office of EA, the owner of all assets and intellectual property of Bioware. EA is crying right now because they have major cash burn issues and they need to resolve those issues quickly. You can chuckle all you want, but it doesn't change the story that EA needs to release games in development way before they would like to stop the cash hemmorage that is occurring right now. That inevitable future is much closer than you think I hope they learnt a lesson from WAR and do not release early. If not they'll see an initial spike of box sales folowed by a steady decline of monthly subs.
I don't know what this "New Masters" business is, EA has owned bioware for a couple years at least now, Mass Effect was published by EA and it did very well and wasn't rushed. This game isn't even in beta yet, and more then half the information isn't known or hasn't been revealed, some of it even on Biowares end, so to think they'll push the release for 09 is ridiculous. They won't ... period. |
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Originally posted by Moirae
Oh my god. You can't be serious.
Status: IN DEVELOPMENT. THAT MEANS ITS NOT RELEASED YET.
Est.rel means :ESTIMATED RELEASE DATE
N/A: means THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THE GAME WILL BE RELEASED YET.
This will probably come across as rude but oh well... use your damned brain. That should have been obvious even to a ten year old. I had engaged 'sarcasm mode' before typing.... |
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Originally posted by Mazin
They never said that, I know exactly what interview your talking about and he never said that. What he did say is that right now Bioware's focus is releasing Dragon Age, then ME2 in the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2010 and then TOR. He never said TOR would be released in 2010.
Said it's definitely not an 09 release, hinted at 2010 by saying that they're not going to be at PAX or E3 next year.
The last four classes will be revealed by the end of this year, and they want to do testing "soon with a trademark."
Edit: Forgot to say Sean also said they run a server in Austin, France, and Germany. They have about a hundred people on the server in the US and it's like a really glitchy beta. |
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Darth_Osor
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 2/17/09
Just because you are unique does not mean you are special |
Originally posted by Odela
Said it's definitely not an 09 release, hinted at 2010 by saying that they're not going to be at PAX or E3 next year.
The last four classes will be revealed by the end of this year, and they want to do testing "soon with a trademark."
Edit: Forgot to say Sean also said they run a server in Austin, France, and Germany. They have about a hundred people on the server in the US and it's like a really glitchy beta.
LOL at anyone that thinks TOR is coming out this year. |
Originally posted by fcazares
The problem isn't floating bioware, the problem is floating electronic arts, a much much larger company than bioware that is in financial distress. Newsflash - seekingalpha is reporting that rumors are going around (significant call buying action today) in EA that MSFT (Microsoft) is looking to buy EA. That would obviously solve the cash flow problems, but unsure of what would be the effect on games in development. |
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Originally posted by levin70
Link? ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. |
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Originally posted by levin70
LOL .. TOR is NOT the only game EA can push out to make some cash. Corporate america does not run on one paragraph reasoning like yours. They have teams analyzing everything. They would be much better off releasing other more ready games early than TOR. Plus, they can always borrow money. Treasury depts in corporations look at ALL alternatives and releasing this single game early is NOT the only alternative that they have. |
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Originally posted by efefia
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Keep it here please and don't derail the thread. |
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Originally posted by axhed
Thats interesting. How many times do they release a madden title? Oh yeah, that would be once a year. Even with madden, they are losing boatloads of money. Once again, its the cash drains they need to deal with. Those would be in development titles. Given that their release of the next madden title is in 2010, they need to and will do everything in their power to slow the cash burn rate. |
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Originally posted by nariusseldon
LOL .. TOR is NOT the only game EA can push out to make some cash. Corporate america does not run on one paragraph reasoning like yours. They have teams analyzing everything. They would be much better off releasing other more ready games early than TOR. Plus, they can always borrow money. Treasury depts in corporations look at ALL alternatives and releasing this single game early is NOT the only alternative that they have.
Teams don't mean jack when your burn rate means you run out of cash in 5 and half quarters. As someone who has done cash crisis work for a living, teams of analysts are meaningless. The Company right now is trying to think of every possible means by which they can either (a) reduce cash outflow rates and (b) increase cash generating activities. Given lead times with game titles (of the mmo type) the only way to do either is to put titles in development into limbo to conserve resources or kick those that they can out the door even if they aren't done yet. |
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EA will be fine, BioWare will be fine, your credibility went out the window when you said the game will release this year. Me:You're surrounded by darkspawn corpses, what happened here? |
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You'll be lucky if it's released in 2010. I'm thinking more like spring of 2011, with closed beta starting in fall of 2010.
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Im going with a late fall release in 2010. On the fact Mythic devs will be helping Bioware in testing as both companies are under one roof (EA).
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Originally posted by levin70
That's if you look at last quarters cash flow only.. No one does that at that's just plain dumb. The last 5 quarters cash burn has been $88m each quarter. Let's say it increased to an average of 100m. That gives them 22 quarters, or 5.5 YEARS of cash before having to ask for a refill from banks or stockholders. If they double their burn rate they still have 3 years worth of cash. I hate EA and most of their titles, but financially they are sound and we most like have to suffer through a massive amount of below average EA titles in the future too.. |
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rowainagant
Novice Member
Joined: 8/03/06
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Anyone else get a preorder form through to their emails today ? 20% from direct2drive.com to preorder ToR ? |
Originally posted by rowainagant Seems they already know that their game is shallow and they're trying to make their profit off of pre orders...
I don't know why so many people are looking forward to a single player game. |
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Originally posted by rowainagant
I've only had the 25% off Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic PC digital download email.
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Originally posted by SignusM Seems they already know that their game is shallow and they're trying to make their profit off of pre orders...
I don't know why so many people are looking forward to a single player game.
Single-player games can be good too and there is already proof that this is more than a SP game. |
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Originally posted by syztec
I've only had the 25% off Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic PC digital download email.
Yes, that's what everyone got. It's not for the MMO coming out like most people think.
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I'm hoping next year, but sometime after cat as there is no point trying to compete with it. |
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Originally posted by SignusM Seems they already know that their game is shallow and they're trying to make their profit off of pre orders...
I don't know why so many people are looking forward to a single player game.
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