Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Puuk

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

 

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

 

define poorly? Cause I don't think anyone who was online in the servers thinks the game was handled Poorly at all. 

 

There is nothing to complain about. What are YOU smoking?

 

So the people playing had no complaints... what about the people waiting in the queue for hours at a time?  I guess their complaints don't count. :/

 

I highly doubt it was hours. I don't know about the EU servers but the NA servers didn't have any problems. Like I said before my friend had a 670 something Q and I had a  ~300 Q and we both were in in ~ 30 mins. 

 

Also. Q Lines aren't something Ncsoft really cares about right now. If anything they love it because they know how many more people want to play. They will soon lvl everything out and all will be well. Day one of the headstart is hardly the time to worry about server Q's.... 400,000 people logging into (what was it?) ~10 servers, yeah there will be a Q. But you know what? While all you poor  souls were stuck in Q. There was no overload lag in the servers you guys were trying to get into. We played perfect, Undisturbed games. 

You doubt it was hours? I personally waited 5 hours. Your friend got lucky and you are "doubting" events you did  not witness.

Originally posted by crunchyblack

This is going to be Aions 3rd launch now?  Korea, China (am i missing one?), Now EU/NA.

How many closed then open betas did they do?

It better go pretty damn smooth.

I still expect some lag issues for some people however.

Besides lag issues and quee's I would be surprised IF they suddenly see a lot of issues with the launch. As you wrote they have launched the  game twice so far so the typical launch bugs should not be a issue now.

The queue and the wait time you see right now is actually NCSoft model for the launch day. The short answer is NO, THEY WILL NOT FIX IT. It's their intention in the first place. They intentionally make you wait. Will they add more servers? May be later, but not now. Let me make it more clear. This is their model for launch day. It will not change. You will have to wait until the rush is over. It will probably be several weeks.

This exact same thing happened twice before at Korean and Chinese launch. You will see queue for a while and then after the rush is over, then they will evaluate the server load and added more server if needed.

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Originally posted by Hepisodic

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Originally posted by Shastra

 

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Originally posted by Hepisodic

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Originally posted by Salvatoris
 
Is everyone forgetting that the game has already been out for a while?   Of course it's ready for launch now, it's just localization of a game that was already up and running in another language. :/ 

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Have you forgotten that WoW has been out for 5 years and no patch or expansion has ever been this smooth? 
Or the fact that no WoW server Q went as fast as 10  mins for a 300 person Q? (friend got stuck after 11 pm in a 674 person Q and said it took him 25 minutes Tops. Unheard of in WoW.

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You still don't get it. AIon has been our for more then 3 years as a live game. People had time to give feedback regarding bugs and company had plenty of time to polish it. You can not make comparison with other MMO which did not have this luxury. You are making it sound as if Aion just came out of one month beta for first time and suddenly set up some standards. Give 3 years to any MMO out there and they will be as good as Aion in terms of playability.
Hell even AOC is such a playable game after one year.

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3 years?? You best check those facts Sir.
 
South Korea
Aion was released in South Korea on November 28, 2008. Making this the first country to get a final release of the game. Given the success of NCsoft's previous games, Lineage and Lineage II, Aion had been a highly anticipated game in South Korea ever since its announcement. At the end of 2008 Aion won the award "Best Korean Game of the Year" for its "epic scale, immersive story, and stunning graphics and sound design".
 
It hasn't been even a year yet...
 
And again, WoW has been out for 5 years. (Legit 5 years....) and still can't have this kind of lauch with expansions.... OR patches.
 

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Aion Closed beta testing in Korea began in late 2007, so its not just one year. You didn't answer my previous question. How many lvls have you played? have you seen entire content of Aion that you know this game has no bugs at all? its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

no it is not. it isn't the worst either tho.

Originally posted by Shastra 

its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

Or course its not unfair - what a funny comment to make.  WOW and others benefitted massively from the same phenomenon in reverse (e.g. when that game opened in China) so why not the other way round?

I would say its one of the best done launches I have ever seen. Game is very polished, very high quality, I think they should have made 4 more servers but truth be told they probably predict the rapid downfall of players come after the first 30 days are up. So the servers they have is more than  likely enough to keep the ones who will stay happy and with plenty of people to play with. 

I think its a bit too early to say.  If they sort the current queuing mess out in the next day or so then I think it is up there.  Most games have teething problems the first 48 or so hours.

However if not then the game will be nigh on launched in the EU with plenty of people not being able to take advantage of one of the bonuses that they parted money for early - which I think will drive quite a few away (particularly as I can't see it getting any better when the game is launched officially).  The next 24 hours I think are very important to the way this story will be told in the future.

Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

Originally posted by Shastra 

its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

 

Or course its not unfair - what a funny comment to make.  WOW and others benefitted massively from the same phenomenon in reverse (e.g. when that game opened in China) so why not the other way round?

So we should only compare the aion launch to the launch of WoW in China....  Which point were you arguing?

I doubt it had a better launch than WAR, which was flawless. WAR can hang its hat on that, at least. Too bad its worthless to creditors.

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

Originally posted by Shastra 

its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

 

Or course its not unfair - what a funny comment to make.  WOW and others benefitted massively from the same phenomenon in reverse (e.g. when that game opened in China) so why not the other way round?

So we should only compare the aion launch to the launch of WoW in China....  Which point were you arguing?

Erm no (as it blatently obvious really).  I was trying to say that saying that no other MMO had benefitted from a launch in one terrirory and then a launch in another sometime later was utter bollocks, and if we can laud a MMO in one instance we should laud it in the other.

Originally posted by brostyn

I doubt it had a better launch than WAR, which was flawless. WAR can hang its hat on that, at least. Too bad its worthless to creditors.

I'm sorry?  Can you not remember the utter mess that was the EU launch in WAR (may have been prelaunch, can't quite remember the details).  All I remember was that it took 2 days to get in a state where you could even access the account info online.  GOA were even pushed into giving an apology online with free game time AFAIR

im glad they have wait lines... Unless you want it like WAR which opened way to many servers and then the whole population went down hill. Then you have a ton of almost empty servers....

Was a great launch very little lag dispite there being hundreds of playing in the area. That being said today i have been in the queue for 5hours and still have 2 hours left is completely unacceptable. This is mainly caused by players knowing how long the wait times are so just set up shop and go afk for hours which gets them a spot straight away and avoids waiting 7hrs like the rest of us.

Originally posted by AG-ODIN

Was a great launch very little lag dispite there being hundreds of playing in the area. That being said today i have been in the queue for 5hours and still have 2 hours left is completely unacceptable. This is mainly caused by players knowing how long the wait times are so just set up shop and go afk for hours which gets them a spot straight away and avoids waiting 7hrs like the rest of us.

This is one of the reasons I'm not a fan of the personal shops.  At the very least they should have held off on making those active until they had the servers and population numbers situated.

I don't think anyone would have thrown a fit if for the first week or so of the game they delayed that "perk" until everything else was good to go.

Lotro was the smoothest launch I've seen,I had no problems at all.

Smoothest I seen was WoW: Burning Crusade... although technically an expansion I bought it in the morning and then began playing as soon as it was installed. The patch was not even much of an issue because the original game had been patched before hand in preperation.

I logged in two hours after the start and got stright on nezekan.  Anyone who complains just does not understand the situation.  Those of us who knew better waited.

Originally posted by avalon1000

I logged in two hours after the start and got stright on nezekan.  Anyone who complains just does not understand the situation.  Those of us who knew better waited.

Aye, patience is a virtue... why queue when you can go watch a movie for a few hours then come back and get straight on.
 

Originally posted by Berikai

Lotro was the smoothest launch I've seen,I had no problems at all.

I agree with you on that one.  I got in to the LOTRO beta about 6 months b4 launch and it was already running smoother than a lot of the live games at the time.  I would also add that despite what people think of the game, WAR had a really solid launch as well.

 The unforgivable aspect to the launch are the server queues. This is very bad from NCSoft.

I think it was a professional launch. The game is in great condition as long as you have followed with which servers were going to be heavily populated. There is no reason for people to be whining this much considering that NCsoft posted the server preselection status. Then again not everyone cares to do research prior to creating their characters. The launch was one of the best in MMO history next to LOTRO and maybe a few others.

For those of you whining about server ques, get over it. Would you rather have a ghost town possibly later down the road with a ton of servers? Seeing as Aion's bread and butter is PVP it is a better strategy to have less servers to provide a better gameplay experiance. For all of those complaining about this ill just answer you with 1 word : Warhammer.

If you feel the need to complain some more, ==========> there is the door, feel free to go to another game that you feel is more profesional. If you dont have one or are just a little annoyed. Have patience and everything "should" even out. However launch is usually the most difficult time in regards to an MMO. For those of you that are new, welcome to launch, for those veterans out there complaining. Shame on you.

Originally posted by Wakygreek

I think it was a professional launch. The game is in great condition as long as you have followed with which servers were going to be heavily populated. There is no reason for people to be whining this much considering that NCsoft posted the server preselection status. Then again not everyone cares to do research prior to creating their characters. The launch was one of the best in MMO history next to LOTRO and maybe a few others.

For those of you whining about server ques, get over it. Would you rather have a ghost town possibly later down the road with a ton of servers? Seeing as Aion's bread and butter is PVP it is a better strategy to have less servers to provide a better gameplay experiance. For all of those complaining about this ill just answer you with 1 word : Warhammer.

If you feel the need to complain some more, ==========> there is the door, feel free to go to another game that you feel is more profesional. If you dont have one or are just a little annoyed. Have patience and everything "should" even out. However launch is usually the most difficult time in regards to an MMO. For those of you that are new, welcome to launch, for those veterans out there complaining. Shame on you.

To be fair though, it wasn't real bright for NCSoft to allow people to still make characters on servers that were going to have queues that run into the hours.  That's just silly.  They should have locked off the server completely and forced people to make characters on the less populated servers.  Some would still be pissed and some would have to reassess what they would do with their legion if they were split but so be it.  They shouldn't have allowed for character creations if they analyzed the data and knew there were going to be some insanely lengthy queues.  Fifteen minutes to a half hour queue I get.  Queues measuring into the hours is just ridiculous. 

Yeah, I went to one of the lesser populated servers myself so I'm not experiencing what they're going through but it's as much the company's fault (more so in my opinion) as it is some being stubborn and refusing to migrate somewhere else.  Besides, NCSoft should have done some research themselves and known these queues could get out of hand and locked those servers down.  Player stores should not be active for this phase of the launch either.

Of course, then we would have people coming here and still bitching but c'est la vie.  They wouldn't get any pity from me unless every available server for their time zone was locked down hehe.

 mm the thing is most player that wont change are just silly in the end they wont win a thing lol

ncsoft add server this week-end ,so what its the player the trouble lol

they want x server and none else will do it what can ncsoft do 

nothing lol,let the player do their witing while other have fun and progress on other server

Originally posted by drbaltazar

 mm the thing is most player that wont change are just silly in the end they wont win a thing lol

ncsoft add server this week-end ,so what its the player the trouble lol

they want x server and none else will do it what can ncsoft do 

nothing lol,let the player do their witing while other have fun and progress on other server

Yeah, you have to wonder how many will expect everyone else to go to the new server but themselves.