All this talk of water has made me want kool aid. Anyways its something they can add later. Yes in Aion you can go in the water but you also sink and die so it makes it almost he same as in its useless. People seem to get water from cactus though and not the bodies of water. Contamination can also be a reason to not go in it. There is a long list of reasons one way or another. But if water is one of the last things to pick at then I can live with that.

wth. a great game is soon to be realsed and you guys are talking about water :D

edit: and i cant find any replay from the OP. Good troll job buddy. 

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Can you make clothing in this game?

Uh, yes. 95% of all items.

Originally posted by astrob0y

wth. a great game is soon to be realsed and you guys are talking about water :D

 

 

edit: and i cant find any replay from the OP. Good troll job buddy. 

 

Agreed. I don't miss the swimming at all. Taking a dip with my two automatic handguns isn't going to help the immersion level for me.

Hi

I'm looking for a "new" mmorpg, and maybe FE is for me.
I prefer sandbox games, open worlds, large areas, and something new, with good pve, craft and some pvp (not FFA)

Was disappointed by War and by AION . Can't play Wow

I actually play Lotro and TCOS (F2P), but i'd like to play another mmorpg. 

Regards

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by mbd1968

This simple question just negates everything you've written in this thread, you've obviously done zero research about the game. go

here

and read.

  

Actually I was making a point.

BTW, you could have answered with a single word, so you're not really in a good position to criticize my posts.

Here's the progression:

If you can make clothing, can you make boots?

If boots are in the game, why can't you wade through water, regardless of how contaminated it is?

By no means is this issue a deal-breaker for me, but it does hurt immersion. I think you will see a lot of comments on this issue after release.

No you wont, because there is only like, what, 4 bodies of water in 100's of square KM of play area.

It's beyond a non issue. To the point of absurd that you even tout it as a flaw of some sort.

Lovin this game! You can tell its a small company that made it but I have high hopes for them. There are LOTS of buggy things, like the weird reticule shaking in combat and such but I believe that will fix it all. Has huge potential...try it out!

Originally posted by Khalathwyr

Originally posted by brenth

FALLEN EARTH  is a large dissapointment at least to veteran players

 

Sorry, you're wrong. And the fact that you don't have the presence of mind to know better than to make blanket, universal statements like this lets me know reading the rest of your post isn't worth the time. You'd think at 43 years of age you'd learned that concept by then. I know plenty of "veteran gamers" that have been playing since Ultima Online and Asheron's Call that enjoy FE and the direction Icarus' has outlined in how they intend to grow it.

Aion and more of the same is calling you. Have fun!

Ahhhh, Asheron's Call. It was my first MMORPG and I still have some fond memories.
 

As to the OP, sorry to hear that he isn't enjoying the game. Me? I'm loving it. It mixes a true skill based system with a post apocolyptic future. A future where you have to walk and supplies require real work to manufacture. The game is all about freedom and consequences.

Are the graphics perfect? Are they up to what we would expect from an EA title? Probably not, although I love the character/equipment detail.

However, Mr OP, starting any thread with the work "fail" in big bold letters doesn't help to help anyone take you very seriously. Doesn't matter how old you are, it comes off as less than mature. If you don't like the game, so be it. Not sure why you are so desperate to trash it though...

I think this game is not for the new MMORPG generation. Or for people like me, that like good graphics and animations in games.

Now I play AoC and maybe it's not the best game, but it sure have one of the best looking animations and graphics. And that makes me forget about bugs etc hehe.

Looking at this game, makes me think back 20 years or so. SWG look better then this one.

But hey it's not all about the looks...

Anyway enjoy the game!

Originally posted by Binko

I think this game is not for the new MMORPG generation. Or for people like me, that like good graphics and animations in games.

Now I play AoC and maybe it's not the best game, but it sure have one of the best looking animations and graphics. And that makes me forget about bugs etc hehe.

Looking at this game, makes me think back 20 years or so. SWG look better then this one.

But hey it's not all about the looks...

 

Anyway enjoy the game!

Seriously, SWG looks better, sunshine its time you went to the shops and did yourself some upgrading, no doubt you will reply saying your running the Quad orgasm 5000 cpu with 30 nvidia 295,s in the pawn you configuration, but with that statemant of yours everyone will know your full of it.

The graphics are not the flashest, but with things turned on to above medium or in your case low it would appear, they are decent and do the job and seeing as I played SWG I can hand on heart fully say the above is full of manure.

Originally posted by Binko

I think this game is not for the new MMORPG generation. Or for people like me, that like good graphics and animations in games.

Now I play AoC and maybe it's not the best game, but it sure have one of the best looking animations and graphics. And that makes me forget about bugs etc hehe.

Looking at this game, makes me think back 20 years or so. SWG look better then this one.

But hey it's not all about the looks...

 

Anyway enjoy the game!

I don't think you were alive 20 years ago.

Originally posted by Kolinka

As someone new to these forums here to gather some information about newer games and options currently available, I feel the need to share my reaction to this thread. This is only my opinion, but I offer it up as constructive criticism.

To all of those that commented on the OP’s grammar/spelling, claim to be a veteran gamer and age as part of your response to his review, please understand that adding those things to your posts impact your credibility negatively. Many of you made shared very valid and helpful information and arguments to opinions presented in his post. However, criticizing him as a person or writer is petty and discredits your response. These are public forums for people to share their personal comments about games. I did not read his post/review with the expectation that he works for a game company or intended to write a polished article for a magazine. As a reader I am aware that he is just one person and that one person’s negative review is not enough to go by. So please post why you might disagree with his review, but leave the digs about grammar and other non-game related things out of it. He obviously got his point across well enough for you to point out where you feel he is wrong. If I care about grammar or believe him to be lacking in maturity/experience, I’m going to notice it without you pointing it out.

That said, I agree with Interesting that using the word “FAIL” in the subject line is a bit premature. When I clicked the link to read this thread I wasn’t scared away by it, but instead was hoping to learn if the poster appeared to look for similar features as I do in an MMO. Many of his comments as well as the reply posts that indicate the game hasn’t even been released did more than enough to persuade me not to put a whole lot of stock in the OP criticism.

Finally, having some negative posts about a game is nice to see, especially when posts include why the writer dislikes something. I am much more scared away by reading nothing but sunshine and roses about new games. I’ve been hoping for a Fallout type MMO and believe this is probably as going to be as close as we get for a while. I look forward to trying it out to see if it works for me.
 

Well said and welcome to the forums!
 

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by Binko

I think this game is not for the new MMORPG generation. Or for people like me, that like good graphics and animations in games.

Now I play AoC and maybe it's not the best game, but it sure have one of the best looking animations and graphics. And that makes me forget about bugs etc hehe.

Looking at this game, makes me think back 20 years or so. SWG look better then this one.

But hey it's not all about the looks...

 

Anyway enjoy the game!

 

I don't think you were alive 20 years ago.

He was 8 years old.

Originally posted by Binko

 the new MMORPG generation.

*shivers*

that phrase has so many meanings it's really just not even funny.

it would be the emo fall out boy generation right ? or are we even a generation beyond that now ?

They are actually updating the graphics a lot with the first launch patch. Taste that people, first patch... :)

BR Anders

Originally posted by xxthecorexx

Originally posted by Binko

 the new MMORPG generation.

 

*shivers*

that phrase has so many meanings it's really just not even funny.

 

it would be the emo fall out boy generation right ? or are we even a generation beyond that now ?

All I can think of is that ever second month or so they began talking about the old school warlocks in WoW, the old school warlocks that was something like three months old. And those was true warlocks, cheezus.

Originally posted by brenth 

the clothing they have  baseball caps  jackets  shoes  most pants most shirts  are all OBSOLETE at level 5ish  because they use a STAT CLOTHING SYSTEM and have NO costume clothing option or even any clothing toggles!!!  what this means that for the first few levels you can get by wearing most any cool clothing  but even as low as 1st level  (15 armor skill)  you start to shift to the stat clothing  in this case  a duster and chap armor,,, later you wear a gasmask and helmit 24/7  as there are NO toggles to remove these item graphics.. to me this  takes alot away from the expirence. oh lets not forget all that charactor design you did on the face and hair  is allways hidden unless you choose to not wear the protective clothing there.

I've been lurking in this and other FE forums off and on for the last few weeks. This is the first thing that's actually made me want to come out of lurking and comment.

The above quote is from the OP. Grammatical impairment aside, he brings up a very valid point. If this is a game where everyone from level A to B wears outfit C and everyone from level X to Y wears outfit Z, and there's very little if any ability to customize the outfits - then this game is a no-go for me.

You can say what you want about hardcore. I've been there since UO launch and loved AC, 10six, and EVE - all of which were hardcore games (perhaps 10six most of all). I enjoyed being able to dye my clothing in UO and customize my outfit. I enjoyed being able to customize my outfit in SWG as well. EVE didn't have much clothing customization, but that's how the game is - you're in a space ship.

I could forgive Fallen Earth if it has a gutted customization mechanic. But I can't excuse it for others. I want to get my SO into a MMORPG. I wanted to get her into a game like FE, not WoW. Something where crafting has a meaning and there's a sandbox aspect. But if sandbox means "everyone looks the same", then that's not a sandbox she's going to enjoy. And if she's not enjoying it, neither am I.

Originally posted by TekDragon

Originally posted by brenth 

the clothing they have  baseball caps  jackets  shoes  most pants most shirts  are all OBSOLETE at level 5ish  because they use a STAT CLOTHING SYSTEM and have NO costume clothing option or even any clothing toggles!!!  what this means that for the first few levels you can get by wearing most any cool clothing  but even as low as 1st level  (15 armor skill)  you start to shift to the stat clothing  in this case  a duster and chap armor,,, later you wear a gasmask and helmit 24/7  as there are NO toggles to remove these item graphics.. to me this  takes alot away from the expirence. oh lets not forget all that charactor design you did on the face and hair  is allways hidden unless you choose to not wear the protective clothing there.

I've been lurking in this and other FE forums off and on for the last few weeks. This is the first thing that's actually made me want to come out of lurking and comment.

The above quote is from the OP. Grammatical impairment aside, he brings up a very valid point. If this is a game where everyone from level A to B wears outfit C and everyone from level X to Y wears outfit Z, and there's very little if any ability to customize the outfits - then this game is a no-go for me.

You can say what you want about hardcore. I've been there since UO launch and loved AC, 10six, and EVE - all of which were hardcore games (perhaps 10six most of all). I enjoyed being able to dye my clothing in UO and customize my outfit. I enjoyed being able to customize my outfit in SWG as well. EVE didn't have much clothing customization, but that's how the game is - you're in a space ship.

I could forgive Fallen Earth if it has a gutted customization mechanic. But I can't excuse it for others. I want to get my SO into a MMORPG. I wanted to get her into a game like FE, not WoW. Something where crafting has a meaning and there's a sandbox aspect. But if sandbox means "everyone looks the same", then that's not a sandbox she's going to enjoy. And if she's not enjoying it, neither am I.

Except, he misses the entire point that if you want to wear more defensive armors, you have to spend points to do so. Meaning, it is your choice to wear those other armors, or stick with cloth.

Your choice, and, those points can go somewhere else if you choose.

Also, all hair has 3 different ways to ware them, and so do jackets, you can have them open/ziped/or partial zip and you can craft any color you want.

This is not Wow where the armors are invalidated because you gain a level, it is 100% tied to your selections in skill points and what it is you want to do with your toon. And yes, there are good reasons NOT to wear heavy armor, it is not the case that it is simply better.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Except, he misses the entire point that if you want to wear more defensive armors, you have to spend points to do so. Meaning, it is your choice to wear those other armors, or stick with cloth.

 

Your choice, and, those points can go somewhere else if you choose.

Also, all hair has 3 different ways to ware them, and so do jackets, you can have them open/ziped/or partial zip and you can craft any color you want.

This is not Wow where the armors are invalidated because you gain a level, it is 100% tied to your selections in skill points and what it is you want to do with your toon. And yes, there are good reasons NOT to wear heavy armor, it is not the case that it is simply better.

 

Forgive me, but I think you may be missing the point. In Ultima Online you had a good half dozen types of armor. Each one had its own advantages and disadvantages. Some protected you more but drained your spell casting or agility. Others were weaker but gave you better flexbility. You even had the option of mix and matching.

In ADDITION to that, you had the ability to customize your appearence. Armor that had the same same exact attributes might have 10 different colors to choose from. Aside from your armor, you had dozens of pieces of clothing that could be worn inside, outside, or partially in between your armor segments and those pieces of clothing had literally hundreds of color choices.

Ultima Online is old. Dirt old. Yet Ultima Online gave players the ability to specialize their charachter towards a particular usage of armor and THEN customize themselves to make them appear different than the 10,000 other people wearing that same "armor class".

If the biggest customization FE has is whether or not to button or unbutton a jacket and how to style your hair - this is a massive, MASSIVE leap backwards in sandbox gameplay. I would expect that kind of lack of cutomization from a theme park (you look how we tell you to look) game, not from a sandbox.

Originally posted by TekDragon

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Except, he misses the entire point that if you want to wear more defensive armors, you have to spend points to do so. Meaning, it is your choice to wear those other armors, or stick with cloth.

 

Your choice, and, those points can go somewhere else if you choose.

Also, all hair has 3 different ways to ware them, and so do jackets, you can have them open/ziped/or partial zip and you can craft any color you want.

This is not Wow where the armors are invalidated because you gain a level, it is 100% tied to your selections in skill points and what it is you want to do with your toon. And yes, there are good reasons NOT to wear heavy armor, it is not the case that it is simply better.

 

Forgive me, but I think you may be missing the point. In Ultima Online you had a good half dozen types of armor. Each one had its own advantages and disadvantages. Some protected you more but drained your spell casting or agility. Others were weaker but gave you better flexbility. You even had the option of mix and matching.

In ADDITION to that, you had the ability to customize your appearence. Armor that had the same same exact attributes might have 10 different colors to choose from. Aside from your armor, you had dozens of pieces of clothing that could be worn inside, outside, or partially in between your armor segments and those pieces of clothing had literally hundreds of color choices.

Ultima Online is old. Dirt old. Yet Ultima Online gave players the ability to specialize their charachter towards a particular usage of armor and THEN customize themselves to make them appear different than the 10,000 other people wearing that same "armor class".

If the biggest customization FE has is whether or not to button or unbutton a jacket and how to style your hair - this is a massive, MASSIVE leap backwards in sandbox gameplay. I would expect that kind of lack of cutomization from a theme park (you look how we tell you to look) game, not from a sandbox.

You may want to play the game, then come back.

All armor and clothing can by dyed, and worn in about three different ways, And its all player crafted, as well as I think, 30 slots (yes, shirts under jackets ETC..) in your paper doll, including a different physical glove on each hand.

FE is not lacking in customization department. I didn't miss anyone's point.

You may notice the groin slot item there, thats right in darken caves you can take part in "Glow in the dark condom cock fighting'(tm)

Or if thats just a little bit to Village people for you, try stuffing a praire chicken onto that slot, and stand around in the bank all day, with both hands on your hips, striking Heroic pose's, always a winner with the ladies, all 7 of them and horses , you will meet lots of horses in banks, its where they go to pick up.

Want something even more Macho, ok well there is always the 20 guage cod piece with pop up barrel, a must have finishng move in pvp, because nothing says 'I own you" than running up behind someone and have something spring up out of your pants and going off.

None of the above is real, apart from the horses bit, the slutty buggers.....Thread was just getting way to serious for a game. Go read a book for a week, come back and enjoy a game, any game, pick one,(oh but you cant can you your now uber cynical about everything) if not rack off again and read another book or something, anything the world is full of things you might actually enjoy.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by mbd1968

This simple question just negates everything you've written in this thread, you've obviously done zero research about the game. go

here

and read.

  

Actually I was making a point.

BTW, you could have answered with a single word, so you're not really in a good position to criticize my posts.

Here's the progression:

If you can make clothing, can you make boots?

If boots are in the game, why can't you wade through water, regardless of how contaminated it is?

By no means is this issue a deal-breaker for me, but it does hurt immersion. I think you will see a lot of comments on this issue after release.

 

 

No you wont, because there is only like, what, 4 bodies of water in 100's of square KM of play area.

 

It's beyond a non issue. To the point of absurd that you even tout it as a flaw of some sort.

 

Hey, Mr.Bloodworth, seems like we have a similar taste... FE is my next P2P MMO since Lotro... still subscribing to latter, but not sure, how long.... depends on how FE will do in 3-4 months time. Signs are very good though!
 

See you ingame (maybe) :)

DB

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by mbd1968

This simple question just negates everything you've written in this thread, you've obviously done zero research about the game. go

here

and read.

  

Actually I was making a point.

BTW, you could have answered with a single word, so you're not really in a good position to criticize my posts.

Here's the progression:

If you can make clothing, can you make boots?

If boots are in the game, why can't you wade through water, regardless of how contaminated it is?

By no means is this issue a deal-breaker for me, but it does hurt immersion. I think you will see a lot of comments on this issue after release.

you will not see alot of comments on that issue because like me it was never thought about until others pointed out.  I knew you couldn't wade through water and didn't care as i saw no need to go in radiated water to kill myself until i get my DNA cloning problem taken care of.  Most people will not think twice about it as you hardly come accross water anyways

Originally posted by twhint

Wading through the bad grammar and spelling to respond to this. First off, I'm gonna start off by saying you need to complete high school. It's quite apparent you haven't yet.

Not everyone has english as first language so this is just silly to bring up just because he offended your new pet game.

FE is severely flawed in many ways, most so due to bugs.

The game itself is "ok" enough and will enjoy me for a short time. Its not however a game i invest much energy in.

I really wanted to like FE but so many game design flaws make the game boring, where is the fun I ask?

If they would have shot for Mad Max style MMO it would have been great - Auto Assault came close but again stupid game mechanics.

Car Wars board game would be perfect starting point in my opinion for good and working ruleset on how to build vehicles and solve battles.

Most of the failed games seem to strive to make totally new game ruleset and at least avid roleplayers know that making working systems is very very hard and sometimes a perfect execution can still fail (D&D 3rd edition).