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I just gave up and went full steam ahead on w/e server it allowed me to play on. Wonder what acutal launch is going to be like. Hope you all ejoy waiting in line to log on so you can wait in line to do your bottleneck quests! Cant believe my preferd server, back up server, and back ups back up server were all completely locked all day. At least i got the terribly boring 1-10 campaign quest out of the way, did them way too much looking for good servers in beta. And i got my character to look like an evil fat infant, havent been able to really get it right on any of the other servers i was able to get on. Will be interesting to see the breakdown of the servers after a full work day.
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Kaocan
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Joined: 8/18/09
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Originally posted by templarga Right now the queues are (11:09EST): Zikel, 600+ Triniel, 1900+ Israphel, 200+ Lumiel, 1100+ Azphel, 1400+ Maruathen, 300+ I just checked the East servers. I know some of the West servers do not have queues.
Ok so it appears mostly East Coast servers having the problem, I can understand that. Most of the East Coast had extremely high population and Asmodian lockout during Preselection, thats why I switched to a West coast one during OBT. All your testing done on Asmodian or Elyos?
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Originally posted by Kaocan Right now the queues are (11:09EST): Zikel, 600+ Triniel, 1900+ Israphel, 200+ Lumiel, 1100+ Azphel, 1400+ Maruathen, 300+ I just checked the East servers. I know some of the West servers do not have queues.
Ok so it appears mostly East Coast servers having the problem, I can understand that. Most of the East Coast had extremely high population and Asmodian lockout during Preselection, thats why I switched to a West coast one during OBT. All your testing done on Asmodian or Elyos? Yeah it seems the queue might be related to Asmo. I know on Triniel (my guild's server of choice) it still won't let you create an Asmo. I think the other servers just give you a queue due to high population but the ones with faction imbalance, he queue is even larger. |
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Originally posted by Swanea
I think a big part of the issue for a lot of people is how the pre-order and head start were packaged and sold to customers. For pre-order customers, the actual live start day is today, not box day.
The other issue is that NCsoft has been conspicuously absent in just about any manner since they brought their servers live this afternoon. No posts, no announcements, no nothing - just some stuff saying the release was flawless and a couple of tweets, and that's it. They disappeared after that.
At this point, I think regardless of whether people are being reasonable about the queue times and their frustrations or not, that does appear to be the general perception about the game - that it's sloppy, NCsoft didn't prepare properly, and they don't have the capacity to handle their userbase. What the actual facts are may be irrelavent.
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Yeah I hear alot of people being punted, long que's etc. all day not just for a hour or 2 all day. All I have to say is on pre-order "additional 7 days of game time " not credited, "exclusive ingame items" not credited. Sadly it is launch day for PREORDERS....hate to see 22/25th So what was the point to preorder the game I ask what was the gain to them 300k? few got to play I got to lvl 10 or so some legions formed and a sloppy show by NCsoft
Sadly I will not wait in a que or wait for said items on a later date I simply do not feel a need ot wait 8+ hours to play a game I pre-ordered. Question is how will they make this up to all them who had to deal with this ? |
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Im sure im one of the few, but I've have had no issues logging onto the game. I did log on right at 3:00 and didn't log out till just now. So logging in tomorrow might pose some issues but like I said, today I had no issues logging in and have not experienced any lag at all while playing the game. Mr. Bagguns |
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That sir is because the login servers crashed, anyone who keep playing if they made it through the lagspike could play all day. Anyone who logged out or tried to login got a que a mile long. |
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QUE ALMOST OVER! playing: Dragon Age |
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There are those who can't play and are rightly upset about it. Then there are those who can play whom tell those who can't play not to cry about it.
Human nature. |
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Here is an interesting page regarding information from the pre-selection server load. According to their estimates, it doesn't look like any of the servers is over the 60% threshold. It looks like a good deal of people did not premade their characters on the 18th. na.aiononline.com/promotion/preselection/ Also some stats from a random server. It doesn't mention how recent these are, so I assume these are pre-selection data as well: |
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Hey people I dont know if you people know it!!!! BUT NCSOFT CANT GET THE SERVERS RIGHT FROM THEIR ASS!!!!!!!!!!! Servers cost money... the one they dont have... because they are the target of lots of lawsuits in the past few months... like the world.com one.... the Richard Garriot one.. yeah he quit ncsoft, got into space and now he sue ncsoft for more cash to return to space... and now one about some guy with a taleyer name or something.... dont really remember the last one... and a few other lawsuits..... in other words everyone is sucking the cash of ncsoft... wondering how they manage to finish up this game....
THE POINT IS!!!! THEY NEED THE CASH FROM THE BOXES SOLD IN ORDER TO HAVE MONEY FOR MORE SERVERS!!!!!!!!!! now they need someone to drive into the computer store to get the servers.... yeah right! and is weekend... stores are closed!! ps: servers are high end computers that are ordered and sended through mail or other private transport.. which also dont work on weekends.... NOT EVEN NCSOFT WORK ON WEEKENDS!!!!!!!
by the way quote me if you going to say something about me... thx
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Originally posted by Pelu
Are you serious? The law suit is not even over yet, they don't need to pay anyone right now. No one even know who is going to win the law suit... NCsoft profit was up like 300% on the report... gees... please read more information before post something liek this...
Personally, I think 12 servers is about right for NA anyway, don't know what's the big deal here?? Or you want them to do it like China, has over 100 servers and lot of servers are empty?? |
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Originally posted by teco221
Are you serious? The law suit is not even over yet, they don't need to pay anyone right now. No one even know who is going to win the law suit... NCsoft profit was up like 300% on the report... gees... please read more information before post something liek this...
Personally, I think 12 servers is about right for NA anyway, don't know what's the big deal here?? Or you want them to do it like China, has over 100 servers and lot of servers are empty??
Yes China does have over 100 servers (113 to be exact) but they, apparently if you can believe thier press reports, have over 1 million unique users in China. Thats an Avr. of 8-9000 per server. Sure some will be "empty" but I'd imagine they are the minority. Most of those 113 servers are apparently active with healthy populations.
I think most peoples issue is that they were allowed to pre-make characters on selected servers but then unable to log into said servers. I dont know how NCsoft handled this but I assume somewhere in thier system they knew that there were X-amount of pre-ordered accounts selecting each server. Maby they should have refused access to non-preselected folks to these "favored" servers after a pre-determined limit was reached. I remember the same issue with Warhammer online. Its known as "Guild seeding" Warhammer released the names of 12 or so servers before the headstart which was a terrible idea, as all the guilds "picked" one of those 12ish .. Seeding means that adding new servers on-the-fly does not work if you released a server list ahead of release. Reason being people already committed to a known server with thier guild. Seems NCsoft did the same thing allowing people to pick a server before release. It's alot more flexible if your consumers dont have a server list until release then guilds are free to move to lower pop servers. Knowing the server name before release just means you deal with seeding. The community made many posts on the Warhammer Alliance boards before the headstart about guild seeding, Myself included, and we were ignored. It lead to a massive Cluster-F on warhammers release and Aion is suffering from it too. Thier apparent reluctance to open more servers quickly is costing them too with the casuals that are not part of guild seeding. Non-affiliated folks will tend to hop to a server they can log onto rather than wait in a queue. Commited guild members will sit in a queue for hours and bitch about it ... Lesson to be learned, dont pre-release server names and dont allow people to "roll" characters ahead of release. It wont solve the whole problem but it will mean that your community is more flexible about which server they go to. |
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I played on Chinese server for over 2 months, Elyos is 100% dead on my server. No PvP what so ever, last time I checked Asmodian has 72% in Abyss and Elyos 0%. |
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Originally posted by Dubhlaith
You honestly think you're going to not have a giant mass of people coming in to play on launch? Wow they really need to get this up and running just so half you guys won't feel like the only thing you can do is come to these forums and complain. Things go wrong during launches, and this is the de facto launch. Either you're so angry you can go play another game, or realize that complaining about it won't help you log in faster and wait in the line or get over it.
"God help us sinful children of Ivalice.." |
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I strongly suspect that not everyone who preordered the game will necessarily get to participate in head-start now (including little me) which would be a real shame. |
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Just to let you all know, im sitting next to my other half who is in the game, and the channel is empty, not one person in sight... that never happened with the open beta, and im still stuck in a 2000 strong queue and cant get in! Sort it out NCsoft, i know you have been over cautious with the population caps, this is not a success :P |
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EduardoASG
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Joined: 10/09/04
Kill 1 in peace time and you are a murderer, kill 100 in war time and you are an hero! |
Originally posted by demarc01
There is another way.. make the chars global to all servers.. a bit like old Diablo 2 did.. you would just pick a server to play, but chars were stored in a global server.
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jessian
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Joined: 5/01/05
luciusETRUR "You should care because, so far, you''ve sounded like a retard" |
After posting my rant on Aions forums regarding 4hour queues... a fanboiz posted this up.
Elsavita
NCsoft is waiting for a few weeks, checking how many players are sticking to Aion etc. And then they might consider getting larger servers. At the moment they said they do not want to run the risk of upgrading to larger servers when it won't be necessary later. According to Elsavita, NCSOFT have deliberatley blocked access to the game for preorders because they want to check how many players stick with AION... So are these servers actually full? or blocked for Preorder customers. My advice, if your one of the ones going to buy this on launch date, is DONT! Do you really want to spend 30 quid to sit waiting 4 hours for patching, and then a futher 4 hours+ to get a chance to log on? http://uk.aiononline.com/forums/general/view?articleID=217&category=101 My thread on the subject |
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They should have just called this a stress test xD
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Well, I just got home for work. Just set down to play. 3 hour, 2400+ person queue. I will not be purchasing the game to reward their incompetence (they had the info and they had the numbers) and the fact I was counting on a 2 day head start and now that didn't happen either. Say what you will, defend them all you want, but in the end I will be speaking with my $50 and will put it towards another game. I guarantee I won't be the only one. |
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Kyleran
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Joined: 9/13/06
"A good game needs no defense, a bad game has no defense" FreddyNoNose |
Originally posted by Crim101
My son logged in earlier after waiting an hour through a 600+ queue, but after getting home from work (with my 2 new copies of the software that I just picked up) I find that both servers my guild has selected are showing 2000+, 3.25 hr queues to get in. Swell, just swell. At least I saved the receipt
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It''s a shame most people here won''t have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon EVE Online: 2009 Game of the Year Regarding EVE:"To be honest, I think God himself created this game"-Shek One of the joys of EVE is that stupid players aren''t just an irritation; they''re also a valuable resource - Malcanis. |
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I rmembered wow's launch day 1 million users tried to log in at the same time.... CRashing the login servers and all the server in World of warcraft crashed choked and died.. |
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Originally posted by tillamook
In the end that is the crux of it. You sell a pre order with the promise of access on 9/21 and either you are prepared to allow those customers to access the game or not, all the rest is just noise meant to cover butts. People paid money to be able to play yesterday and NCsoft, either willingly on otherwise, wasn't able to accommodate them.
If they wanted to do a stress test or soft rolling launch to ensure even dispersion across the fewest number of servers then they should not have sold pre orders with the promise of game access on a date certain, period. -------------------------------- |
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Originally posted by templarga
And all of us playing will be glad that all the whiners are leaving the game. Good riddance. |
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