I've yet so see a good game come out of Asia.They all have cheesy animations and then there's the horrible translation and grammar issues.Is Aion any different for those that have played the beta?seriously...

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NC has done a ton of work to make the game "West" friendly. I know the 1st few OB were very bad but by the time 1.05 went out most of it was fixed. On a side note great games come from all over the world , just not what the "West" is us too. Kinda like food so places it is ok to eat "Odd" food others it is not. Just food for thought

Are a couple good solid games from Korea including Aion

might not be your thing but dusnt mean they are not there

Its just a matter of preference. Just because you don't like Asian themed games, does not mean everyone dislikes them. Im quite looking forward to playing Aion.

Honestly the animations and detail of work that goes into Korean games is MUCH higher then western games.

The thing you need to ask yourself is:  Do I like the Asian Grind? 

That is the big issue with AION that will turn off most players...its the reason I wont be playing...but some people are ok with it.

I'm sure you will get replies saying "Oh my god, this game is awesome, Tilran is an idiot...he doesnt know grinding if it bit him in the butt"  However I am fully prepared for those responses being so early into game Beta/Launch period.

09/19/2009 - Mark my words on this day 11:13am...AION will take a heavy dip in subs by 3 months time when people wear off the honeymoon phase of the game and get bored of the grindy mechanics.

What grinding mechanics is that? Can't be levelling, levelling is fast.

OP, you'd be surprised at how much work on your favorite MMORPGs is actually done in Korea.  If you look around at the credits on these games, Korean companies are credited a lot for their work.  Plus, AION is over 3 million strong already so the answer is pretty obvious.

 mm your probably too young 

lots and lots of player grinded in lineage2 

men even where i live whole gang played for years 

some still do ,way less then in korea but still a lot 

the thing is its very hard to translate the soul of a game in another language check us they sent wow in asia 

men problem on top of problem made by pen pusher in asia 

culture are very different ,there they got value we used to have but for a lot of us we booted those value because in some area the church was more powerfull then countrys 

hell where i live they were like this 

if your wife wasnt pregnant and only had 2 kids the priest would come and do his spech

we booted all that was in our way in america be it indian church ,we even used racism canada and usa used everything and everyone they could 

and it reflect in the way we game now ,lot of stuff we find funy ,asian feel its rude its  a bad joke 

etc often we dont laught at stuff that they find funy because often there is the historical knowledge we lack that make that joke funy etc

it must be very hard to make a game that please to the whole global comunity

Originally posted by Shannia

OP, you'd be surprised at how much work on your favorite MMORPGs is actually done in Korea.  If you look around at the credits on these games, Korean companies are credited a lot for their work.  Plus, AION is over 3 million strong already so the answer is pretty obvious.

 

Some blogger mistyped 3.5M instead of the correct 1.5M and people have been parroting him ever since. Just a correction, since the 3.5M number was never confirmed (or denied) by NCsoft.

 fail troll is fail troll

Lineage, Lineage 2, Muonline and some others i cant remember right now that in the past made a huge success, maybe not around u neiborhood but sure make other ppl around the globe happy :)

Originally posted by drbaltazar

 mm your probably too young 

lots and lots of player grinded in lineage2 

men even where i live whole gang played for years 

some still do ,way less then in korea but still a lot 

the thing is its very hard to translate the soul of a game in another language check us they sent wow in asia 

men problem on top of problem made by pen pusher in asia 

culture are very different ,there they got value we used to have but for a lot of us we booted those value because in some area the church was more powerfull then countrys 

hell where i live they were like this 

if your wife wasnt pregnant and only had 2 kids the priest would come and do his spech

we booted all that was in our way in america be it indian church ,we even used racism canada and usa used everything and everyone they could 

and it reflect in the way we game now ,lot of stuff we find funy ,asian feel its rude its  a bad joke 

etc often we dont laught at stuff that they find funy because often there is the historical knowledge we lack that make that joke funy etc

it must be very hard to make a game that please to the whole global comunity

Prejudice is and always will be a problem in any sort of organization that attempts to group different races together.

The US being recently headstrong on the Koreans due to recent activities in the news has caused some tension.  That and the Korean war which is over, except by those traditionalists who want to be cautionary. 

Some people take gaming to the extreme and use it to fore-go some personnel grudge that came from (God) knows where.

The players in WOW, most of them American, are the rudest people I have ever played with in my life.  Language, name calling, and plain old selfish ignorance and lack of intelligence never makes for a good play OR a good team.  Though the task at hand may end up done it leaves a bad feeling for those involved and leans towards a certain way of insanity on the part of all the players.

What we have here in the world of gaming is those societies that were dreamt about long ago.  Different races uniting together for one cause, sort of like the Olympics.  (Notice the tension there both politically and concerning religion).

These games are built the way they are for a reason.  And one of the most important buttons is 'ignore'.

In school I never really got along with Koreans too well.  I felt as if I was in competition with them at most times usually over math.  I never had any problems with the Japanese or Chinese.

But one thing I have to say concerning Asian games and playing.  Look at the amount of games the Asian populations have put out over the years, a good majority of them not available in the US.  They have much experience in this market.  And the Asian world is so foreign to the U.S. in thoughts, beliefs, and speaking it is no wonder that some of the best foreign sc-fi and fantasy worlds will be enveloped by the U.S.  Not just because of being different but because it is beautiful.

Years ago I was taught that there as some things that you do not bring up in a conversation if involved in a social event or dinner party.  You do not mention politics and you do not mention religion.  You avoid these issues and all will be well.  Both in the real world and the world of Aion.

Aion is going to be a hit.  And those who enjoy PVP, good PVP and not "I am the chosen to kill all!" will enjoy this.  And it is just a matter of time before people start shouting "World Of Warcraft" rip-off. 

Alot of what you think Aion is is a matter of taste.  I have mentioned this a few times in the forums.  If you do not like Asian artwork this game is not for you.  If you enjoyed Guild Wars you may want to take a look at Aion, but it is an MMO and be assured there is grinding. 

The thing that I personally hope will not happen to this game are ignorant selfish children whose parents didn't teach them any manners and just to get out in the world to kill.  There is teaching a child to be headstrong and their is creating monsters.  The latter I see alot in the world of gaming.

May your God be with you.

Originally posted by Xasapis

Originally posted by Shannia

OP, you'd be surprised at how much work on your favorite MMORPGs is actually done in Korea.  If you look around at the credits on these games, Korean companies are credited a lot for their work.  Plus, AION is over 3 million strong already so the answer is pretty obvious.

 

Some blogger mistyped 3.5M instead of the correct 1.5M and people have been parroting him ever since. Just a correction, since the 3.5M number was never confirmed (or denied) by NCsoft.

Thank you for the correction.  I wonder if the 1.5 million are P2P like in the US or cafe accounts where the money to NCSoft can't be verified?  Regardless, 1.5 million in a year is a really good number for a P2P game.

Probably cafe-style accounts. That part of the world prefers this particular method of payment, which happens to be cheaper for the consumer (unless you play more than 10hrs per day).

I walked into Beta thinking leveling and game play would be like 9Dragons or  RFOnline maybe. Nope, played more like EQ2, which isn't a bad thing since I have no issues with the advancement system in EQ2. Felt like a Western MMO, and depending on who was around you it looked like one. The music had a real Korean sound to it, that was one of the only things that set it apart.

OP

It just did. Aion is also no more anime looking than WoW is. Simply take a look at those stupid Dark Elves.

Originally posted by Tilran 

The thing you need to ask yourself is:  Do I like the Asian Grind? 

What grind?

They add a ridiculous amount of quests in every patch, including the latest 1.5.

Automatically assuming Aion is just another Asian grind is ignorant and proves you know nothing about the game...

Originally posted by Krilster

Originally posted by Tilran 

The thing you need to ask yourself is:  Do I like the Asian Grind? 

 

What grind?

They add a ridiculous amount of quests in every patch, including the latest 1.5.

Automatically assuming Aion is just another Asian grind is ignorant and proves you know nothing about the game...

Don't forget about the 1.6 patch coming in probaly about month or so. Already in K-Aion testing (here comes the flying pets for SM).

The real question should be: Can a good solid game come out of the west now days?

It has been a very long time since that happened.

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Originally posted by Tilran
The thing you need to ask yourself is:  Do I like the Asian Grind?

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I'll admit I was close minded about the game at first; but, someone I know insisted I give it a look and I did. Now I am subscribed. I think you need to stop assuming things and start trying before you conclude what its all about.

Its impossible to clearly judge a game anymore just by hear-say and looking at pictures.

Originally posted by wardog250

 

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Originally posted by Tilran
The thing you need to ask yourself is:  Do I like the Asian Grind?

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I'll admit I was close minded about the game at first; but, someone I know insisted I give it a look and I did. Now I am subscribed. I think you need to stop assuming things and start trying before you conclude what its all about.

Its impossible to clearly judge a game anymore just by hear-say and looking at pictures.

This is the truth because I've mentioend Aion to people at work and their response (without looking at it much or even try it) respond with "typical Asian grinder" where I then proceed to just walk away because I can't talk to anyone who has no logic.

I smell a troll.

Aion is a solid game. Some think it's great while for others it's not their cup of tea. But I think everyone agrees (bar some haters) that it is a very solid game.

Originally posted by Kenaoshi

 fail troll is fail troll

Lineage, Lineage 2, Muonline and some others i cant remember right now that in the past made a huge success, maybe not around u neiborhood but sure make other ppl around the globe happy :)

 

Not trying to be a troll.the Asian style animations never did much for me though some westerners like it , i simply don't.I've tried a few f2p asian mmo's and have seen screen shots of other korean mmo's and they simply did nothing for me and thought they were horrible imitations.i was just wondering if aion is a little different and was more western in style than asian.anyways i wish aion luck,i'll be lurking to hear the reviews.good day

Originally posted by Kalay

Originally posted by drbaltazar

 mm your probably too young 

lots and lots of player grinded in lineage2 

men even where i live whole gang played for years 

some still do ,way less then in korea but still a lot 

the thing is its very hard to translate the soul of a game in another language check us they sent wow in asia 

men problem on top of problem made by pen pusher in asia 

culture are very different ,there they got value we used to have but for a lot of us we booted those value because in some area the church was more powerfull then countrys 

hell where i live they were like this 

if your wife wasnt pregnant and only had 2 kids the priest would come and do his spech

we booted all that was in our way in america be it indian church ,we even used racism canada and usa used everything and everyone they could 

and it reflect in the way we game now ,lot of stuff we find funy ,asian feel its rude its  a bad joke 

etc often we dont laught at stuff that they find funy because often there is the historical knowledge we lack that make that joke funy etc

it must be very hard to make a game that please to the whole global comunity

 

Prejudice is and always will be a problem in any sort of organization that attempts to group different races together.

The US being recently headstrong on the Koreans due to recent activities in the news has caused some tension.  That and the Korean war which is over, except by those traditionalists who want to be cautionary. 

Some people take gaming to the extreme and use it to fore-go some personnel grudge that came from (God) knows where.

The players in WOW, most of them American, are the rudest people I have ever played with in my life.  Language, name calling, and plain old selfish ignorance and lack of intelligence never makes for a good play OR a good team.  Though the task at hand may end up done it leaves a bad feeling for those involved and leans towards a certain way of insanity on the part of all the players.

What we have here in the world of gaming is those societies that were dreamt about long ago.  Different races uniting together for one cause, sort of like the Olympics.  (Notice the tension there both politically and concerning religion).

These games are built the way they are for a reason.  And one of the most important buttons is 'ignore'.

In school I never really got along with Koreans too well.  I felt as if I was in competition with them at most times usually over math.  I never had any problems with the Japanese or Chinese.

But one thing I have to say concerning Asian games and playing.  Look at the amount of games the Asian populations have put out over the years, a good majority of them not available in the US.  They have much experience in this market.  And the Asian world is so foreign to the U.S. in thoughts, beliefs, and speaking it is no wonder that some of the best foreign sc-fi and fantasy worlds will be enveloped by the U.S.  Not just because of being different but because it is beautiful.

Years ago I was taught that there as some things that you do not bring up in a conversation if involved in a social event or dinner party.  You do not mention politics and you do not mention religion.  You avoid these issues and all will be well.  Both in the real world and the world of Aion.

Aion is going to be a hit.  And those who enjoy PVP, good PVP and not "I am the chosen to kill all!" will enjoy this.  And it is just a matter of time before people start shouting "World Of Warcraft" rip-off. 

Alot of what you think Aion is is a matter of taste.  I have mentioned this a few times in the forums.  If you do not like Asian artwork this game is not for you.  If you enjoyed Guild Wars you may want to take a look at Aion, but it is an MMO and be assured there is grinding. 

The thing that I personally hope will not happen to this game are ignorant selfish children whose parents didn't teach them any manners and just to get out in the world to kill.  There is teaching a child to be headstrong and their is creating monsters.  The latter I see alot in the world of gaming.

May your God be with you.

You are right in that the mmo world is riddled with folks who enjoy nothing more than to try and ruin other peoples games. It is really noticable if you go play games from overseas. I rarely ever saw much trash talking in general chat. As a matter of fact, I rarely saw much talking at all in general chat. You come to the west and play mmo's here and its nothing but chuck norris this and your mamma that. It really does take a way from the overall experience of playing an mmo. The sad part is that if you do turn off general chat, then you also miss out on event notices and other happenings that could actually enhance your playing experience. Overall there is just way to much bad chatter that goes on in general or region chat or whatever the big chat channels are and the rudeness of people has done nothing but gotten worse over the years.

This isnt to say there aren't some nice people out there, there really are. They are just shadowed by all the jerks of the world trying to make an E-name for themselves. The sad part about this, is a very good portion of these folks are not kids but adults. Adults who feel that everything they were brought up to believe and follow can be completely forgotten behind the anonymity of the internet.

I can still remember when I was running a BBS, I had one kid (and this one turned out to be a kid) that felt my rules did not apply to him and that he would simply ignore them and be as rude as he possibly could (coming into MY house (bbs) ) and cussing me out because I wouldn't allow him to skip by the rules that everyone had to follow. Needless to say, after a nice talk with his parents, and an exchange of info with other BBS SysOps, the kid learned the hard way that rules are there for a reason and if you choose not to follow them, well, its nobodies fault but your own and you get to suffer the consequences.

Its a shame that MMO's can't be run more like BBS's were way back in the day. They sure would be a lot more friendlier and in my opinion, a lot more fun to play.

Originally posted by nethrill

I've yet so see a good game come out of Asia.They all have cheesy animations and then there's the horrible translation and grammar issues.Is Aion any different for those that have played the beta?seriously...

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Asia makes "good" games all the time. It never occurred to you that other people have an opinion different from yours. Even an average troll does a better job than this.

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Originally posted by nethrill

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Originally posted by Kenaoshi

 fail troll is fail troll
Lineage, Lineage 2, Muonline and some others i cant remember right now that in the past made a huge success, maybe not around u neiborhood but sure make other ppl around the globe happy :)
 

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Not trying to be a troll.the Asian style animations never did much for me though some westerners like it , i simply don't.I've tried a few f2p asian mmo's and have seen screen shots of other korean mmo's and they simply did nothing for me and thought they were horrible imitations.i was just wondering if aion is a little different and was more western in style than asian.anyways i wish aion luck,i'll be lurking to hear the reviews.good day

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Its not really that anime-ish. I do really know what you mean about F2P Korean games' art styles. Flyff, for example, is like hello kitty meets mike's hard lemonade that has been sitting on a table too long. I have to admit Aion is a bit Asian-styled, although with the amount of character customization, you really can look any way you want to. If you're really curious, there are whole threads in this forum of character screenshots. Also, NCSoft changed a lot of the quests and the playstyle for the Western audience, hence the much later NA release date. I would say, after playing Korean and Western MMOs, Aion is somewhere in the middle.

If you are really interested, I suggest giving it a shot and checking out the videos and NA screenshot threads.