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gnomexxx
 Advanced Member
Joined: 2/26/06
"Every generation needs a new revolution." - Thomas Jefferson |
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But everything is fine and getting better *waves hand* EQ1-AC1-DAOC-FFXI-L2-EQ2-WoW-DDO-GW-LoTR-VG-WAR I can't believe I'm playing EQ1 again...and having tons of fun |
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Zindaihas
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Joined: 5/07/06
'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman |
Ah, it's just a lot of numbers. Numbers never hurt anybody...right? "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." ~ George S Patton |
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I see that largest budget items section and what is in the front? Oh that's right. The military.
End the wars, Cut the military by at least 30%, and we'll stop the bleeding. |
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Originally posted by Sabiancym
Yeah.. To bad we dident Elect a President that Promised to get us out of the Middle East once and for all... Oh Wait.. Nvr Mind. And if you look at the thing you would see that the Social Security and Medacare/Medacade are Combined a Hair under DOUBLE the Milatary and the war.. Cut them Instead... Hell Ill even agree to cut and run at this point. If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. |
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Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Yeah.. To bad we dident Elect a President that Promised to get us out of the Middle East once and for all... Oh Wait.. Nvr Mind. And if you look at the thing you would see that the Social Security and Medacare/Medacade are Combined a Hair under DOUBLE the Milatary and the war.. Cut them Instead... Hell Ill even agree to cut and run at this point.
I thought you were against Death panels. Which is pretty much what it would be if you cut medicare. You'd have a bunch of guys on a panel, voting to pull the plug on thousands of senior citizens. No thanks. |
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deviliscious
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Yeah.. To bad we dident Elect a President that Promised to get us out of the Middle East once and for all... Oh Wait.. Nvr Mind. And if you look at the thing you would see that the Social Security and Medacare/Medacade are Combined a Hair under DOUBLE the Milatary and the war.. Cut them Instead... Hell Ill even agree to cut and run at this point. I can't agree with the cut n run. We have allies in this with us, and I believe in keeping our word. Cowards cut and run, but We never do. They have just as much at stake here, they get bombings and terrorist attacks on their own soil more often than we do. We just need to push for an extreme amount of force crush them and get the hell out, you know if we had spent MORe money early we would have saved tons over time. The longer we drag this out, the more we spend. But you know, Our government will never do that.. After we do that we will pay to build them up, rather than take care of our own country first. First thing we need to cut is foreign aid. We are broke, sorry, we must take care of our citizens here first, before we can afford to help anyone else. I am still disgusted with Obamas choice to send 900 million to HAMAS during the middle of an economic meltdown. |
Originally posted by Sabiancym
I thought you were against Death panels. Which is pretty much what it would be if you cut medicare. You'd have a bunch of guys on a panel, voting to pull the plug on thousands of senior citizens. No thanks.
I thought you said there were No death panels? And were back to Butting our heads agenst each other Over who is Right on what areas need Cuting. If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. |
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Originally posted by deviliscious I can't agree with the cut n run. We just need to push for an extreme amount of force crush them and get the hell out, you know if we had spent MORe money early we would have saved tons over time. The longer we drag this out, the more we spend. Thats Kinda the point of the Cut and Run. Obama isent gana LET them Win.. so no more point to it. His Agenda is Crushing Our Econamy and Destroying the Middle and Upper Class. He isent Worried about anything he can Blame on Bush. If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. |
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Zindaihas
Elite Member
Joined: 5/07/06
'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman |
Originally posted by Sabiancym
Are you serious? You just destroyed whatever credibility you ever had on this issue with that post. 60% of government spending goes towards entitlements and interest on the debt, 16% goes to defense spending. So cutting 16% of the budget by 30%, which would leave us more vulnerable to our enemies, would cut the deficit down to, oh...maybe one and a half trillion dollars. "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." ~ George S Patton |
Originally posted by Zindaihas
Are you serious? You just destroyed whatever credibility you ever had on this issue with that post. 60% of government spending goes towards entitlements and interest on the debt, 16% goes to defense spending. So cutting 16% of the budget by 30%, which would leave us more vulnerable to our enemies, would cut the deficit down to, oh...maybe one and a half trillion dollars.
Yeah thats allways the funny part about Liberals. Don't Fix the Problem. Just make it last long enough so I dont gata worry about it. And they even have the Nerve to Complane that we arn't Moveing fast enough to "Save the planet, and feed the poor" If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. |
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gnomexxx
Advanced Member
Joined: 2/26/06
"Every generation needs a new revolution." - Thomas Jefferson |
Originally posted by Sabiancym I'm not against getting out of countries we've been in for way too long and shrinking our military either. But how come every time the topic comes up you seem to jump right onto the military instead of considering other places to do cuts as well? Not trying to sound too suspicious, but it just sounds very agenda driven. =============================== |
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Make friends with the Soviets and buy this baby. War ends.
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frodus
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 9/15/06
Justification is an event. Sanctification is a process. |
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress. |
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The debt clock shouldn't include Social Security. Its funds are not allowed to be withdrawn for other federal expenditures even though it is happening. Its also still entirely paid for with the steep Social Security tax Right now we are looking at a $3.4 trillion Federal spending including Social Security with a $12 trillion US economy. Due to the decline of most classes, there is a 15% decline in the US economy, and a 25% decline in total tax revenues, giving a total of $1.8 trillion in federal tax revenue. Despite an increase of funding in most government sectors, they all still aren't adaquetly funded. So uhh, why the hell is congress trying to add another trillion in deficit spending ontop of this? I think everything will be fine in a year. Most nations are preparing for the dollar to no longer be the reserve currency. Once that happens, the only way the fed can continue spending is if it keeps printing money which will devalue the dollar and eventually make the country bankrupt with hyper inflation. Since the federal reserve bank is a private entity independant of congress, if they say no to printing congress will have no choice but to cut funding. After all government employees don't work for free. |
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SoulSurfer
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Joined: 6/19/08
Because at the end of the day, basically, everyone is just playing with dolls. |
Originally posted by outfctrl
Damn, no wonder KGB, and Russian mafia dudes are so crazy. I wonder, in the future, when global warming heats this planet up, what the real "Mother Russia" - will be capable of? Imagine all that tundra thawing out and being able to harvest food? Countries have always been afraid of Russia, WWI, WWII, Cold War... and one day she will get it's due. They were so scared of them, they tried to take them out because they know that is a ridiculously loaded natural resource country. Talk about keeping a good man down. <.< Hay Russia, lets be friends k? on a side note, have you ever seen a U.S. ballistic missle disperse warheads like popcorn? Hundreds of them!, each with a single target! lol How you gonna stop that? Tzar Bomba would own a half hemisphere if it actually hit it's target. =O but, there is no way in hell you can stop the pop-corn shit-storm. =D
R.I.P.Friskeez ~75 FullMerits |
Originally posted by gnomexxx I'm not against getting out of countries we've been in for way too long and shrinking our military either. But how come every time the topic comes up you seem to jump right onto the military instead of considering other places to do cuts as well? Not trying to sound too suspicious, but it just sounds very agenda driven.
Of course it's agenda driven. Just like every other post by some of the regulars here is about cutting medicare.
Everyone has their agenda. Part of mine is cutting military expenditures. How come everytime I suggest cutting down the military budget I get flamed for not wanting to protect Americans? Yet the same people are perfectly fine cutting other programs specifically designed to protect Americans. Medicare, etc.
Cutting the military and focusing on our own interests rather than getting involved in every little conflict in the world would do more for our national security. I'm not saying abandon our allies, but we don't need to go around playing world police. |
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I concur Sabian, cut down on military spending. Make immigration into the US easier, reduce border patrol. Adjust medicare and medicaid so they are more effecient and accepted. Fix Social Security, I don't want to be paying into it if I will never see a dime of what I paid. There are so many things that can be cut or reduced in the budget. |
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SoulSurfer
Apprentice Member
Joined: 6/19/08
Because at the end of the day, basically, everyone is just playing with dolls. |
Originally posted by Cleffy +3 For example: I work with this Mexican kid from Halisco state. After a few months I got to know him he chilled out a little, (before he was a huge prick because he thought I was a Mexican acting like I didn't know how to speak spanish... just because I'm dark tan, and spoke English all the time and refused to speak any Spanish to him). I told him I was half Filipino/Italian and spoke Japanese, English, and Tagalog... so he eventually chilled out... I got mad when he started speaking Spanish to me, so I'd just answer in Japanese to get the major point across to him. Anyways, I teach him English, and he teaches me Spanish. It's a great symbiotic relationship. One day he asks me what the best route from Los Angeles to Denver is via car. I'm like WTF why do you need to know this? Well his ass has mad-wicked fake documents and is able to reside/live and work in Denver somehow. He told me he payed a human smuggler $4,500 dollars to smuggle his little brother into the country from: Tijuana ---> San Diego --> Los Angeles --> to finally, Denver. Whoa, I was in shock. I gained a lot of respect for this kid. Humans certainly do whatever they have to, to survive and make better lives for themselves. They come here, work hard, and send money back to their families. (While this does take away jobs from innocent American High School kids that want to make some extra bucks for whatever)... Our dishwasher was pulled over by the cops, and the INS sent his ass back to Mexico. I came into work one day and asked his older brother: "where is Benito?" He said he's trying to run back across the border and come back to Colorado just for a dishwashers job. WOW.... THEN, the following week, the restaurant next to us called (Ted's Buffalo Grill) was in a huge scandal with the INS. All the illegals of the back of the house in that place was deported and replaced with an all white crew. This blew my mind as well. The interesting thing though is, a lot of Mexicans went back to their country during the recession. It's all a huge cycle... I guess....
R.I.P.Friskeez ~75 FullMerits |
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I'm half Filipino and Irish, I get mistaken for a Mexican alot too. Surprised you know tagalog and japanese instead of tagalog and spanish. I forgot 2 important aspects. First the time it takes to be accepted for immigration should also be much shorter. Hours instead of years. Second is that alot more drugs should be legalized. It will help alleviate many problems in Mexico. Having such a poor neighbor isn't good for the US. This will help reduce law enforcement and border patrol costs. |
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Originally posted by Sabiancym
You cut the military 100% and you'd still have a trillion dollar deficit this year. 
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Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Yeah thats allways the funny part about Liberals. Don't Fix the Problem. Just make it last long enough so I dont gata worry about it. And they even have the Nerve to Complane that we arn't Moveing fast enough to "Save the planet, and feed the poor" Kinda makes you wonder about funky liberal math doesn't it?
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Originally posted by Aetius73
You cut the military 100% and you'd still have a trillion dollar deficit this year.
You have to start somewhere. |
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deviliscious
Hard Core Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
Originally posted by Sabiancym
You have to start somewhere. Of course you would want to cut the only thing the constitution says we HAVE to pay for .. |
