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Originally posted by ketrine
Sony doesnt make games. They publish them. I love my Sony T.V. though =) |
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Originally posted by Otomox
That may be the case for USA but dont expect that is all over the World. Asia is mainly PC games and Europe has many pc gamers especially germany.
And the average console gamer let me say it friendly is a bigger a noob then the average WoW gamer+ console games prefer much more FPS and Action games then mmorpgs. I dont think a mmorpg would be a succes on a console.
I disagree with that. Saying a console gamer is a bigger noob than even a WOW gamer is generalizing to a real negative degree. I would think MOST mmoers console game as well.(At least US people ) There are certain games that just fit really nice on a console.Oblivion and fallout 3 come to mind. I am an avid mmoer and sub to two different mmo's but I console as well. My 360 gets plenty of work,(and I dont play fps on a console ;) Consoles have come a long way from the ones of the past.Without a mouse and keyboard I would think it hard to get it right but there are mice and keyboards for consoles so we will see. I mean consoles have good graphics cards, decent memory and harddrives. Plus playing on my Sony 50" would be great. I think it can be done in the right hands by a team that really cares for their IP. |
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I would call those graphics pretty unattractive. The horse is well done, the rider is pretty good as well, but the color palette is nauseating and the world features are far too blocky. There is no balance between texture detail and model detail. The world is simply too dark. I'll never understand game designers and their fascination with dark scenes. The Shire in The Lord of the Rings Online was done marvelously well. The World of Warcraft alliance starting areas were also wonderful. Organic and believable as a fantasy setting. Most notably, World of Warcraft found the right balance between art, animation and gameplay. Boosting photorealism without boosting the realism of the animations and gameplay produces a jarring disconnect. You feel that something is wrong. This is all just opinion, and it's pretty easy for any given game to be blasted by any given player because we all have different aesthetic preferences. It's okay for someone to not like something that you like. |
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EQ1 has outgrowned itself, too many levels & zones has made the world empty years ago. EQ2 has approached that point as well. I often have the urge to go back to both games and I know getting to the top levels where players are wouldn't be too hard. But I feel like i've missed so much content, and it is not really viable to be able to find groups to go through the older stuff. I think the time is ripe for a EQ3 with this lull of big-named MMO's. EQ3 would definitely be able to carve itself a niche in the MMO current market. The name Everquest still carries a lot of weight with a lot of players and should pull considerable attention. There wouldn't need to be a drastic changes like the differences between EQ1 and EQ2. I personally would prefer the core style of EQ1. Namely shared open-world areas and dungeons, well defined classes, low number of quests and longer levels. Keep raiding to a bare minimum, so all the focus would be primarily on dungeon crawling for your character's pieces. |
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what if EQ3 was a sci-fi mmorpg set in a sci-fi norah :D like 5000 in the future |
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Originally posted by eccoton Yes EQ2 is souless and very ugly. I can not believe anyone would think EQ2 has good graphics.
Thanks for proving my point further |
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Please keep Silius, the developer who ruined Vanguard, far, far away from EQ3. |
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And for the love of god no cataclysms that ruined everything to where its unrecognizable. Give me EQ1 like 300 years EARLIER with some of the wrecked cities intact or something. Don't call it EQ3 but rather: Norrath or something like that. No linked mobs, no skills at .25 of a level, and no instances. However, PLEASE use original EQ music for the loading screen.....
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Originally posted by Zzulu
Thanks for proving my point further
maybe some glasses |
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EQ2 looked awful back when it released and it still does. The first discussion I remember having about EQ2, before it was released, was how bad the character models looked. Sorry, but the game is the opposite of beautiful. |
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I can see it now... Sony Online Entertainment announces: EverQuest 3: Norrath Gets Even The new game will feature four iconic classes: Fighter Rogue Mage Healer
************ I guess that would be the tint my sometimes Anti-SOE glasses have.
Being able to choose the skills you want to use, offers much less variety than pre-made class based systems. -Future Game Developer |
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Originally posted by eVE-404
Thanks for proving my point further
maybe some glasses
Compare to this:
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Originally posted by boojiboy
maybe some glasses
Compare to this:
In my opinion, the first 3 pictures look better, more realistic, more detail. Just over all better. The armor on the horse looks good, but the armor the wolf guy is wearing looks painted on with no depth to it. This is from Vanguard correct? I don't know what it is about that game, but the characters always look like they just don't belong there.
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Yes, it's VG. It's an old picture, with a low level player and generic armor set. Maybe I can dig out a more recent pic. |
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-Dreamion |
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everyone has diffirent opinions of everquest, and i've learned not to contest their beliefs, but merely state my own unbiased opinions... the graphics of everquest 2 are fine, and at least its consistant, unlike everquest 1 having the worst setup team only fixing the old zones once every 2 months whereas they are always ruining game balance for money by releasing mostly pointless crack cocaine expansions which will be outdated every 3 months by a new expansion, so people who played since 1999 get outpowered by a 12 year old who has a rich mommy and daddy that got him all the expansions and boom a level 35 is stronger than a level 50... EQ2 isn't perfect, but its way more consistant than everquest, so i think hopefully a EQ3 will be properly balanced and consistant as well such as EQ2, but what would they do? what is left to do to the idea of everquest? they are either going to completely butcher what was just barely breaking even decent. and who cares about graphics anymore? i hate WoW's graphics in so many ways, especially the excessive brightness and the fact that anything with a wheel on it is not round, its an abstract polygon... i don't care about VG or AoC or whatever, i don't care about what frosting is on the cake, just as long as the cake is round. EQ2 was not THAT bad of graphics, a little silly and i wish you had any color available for all races personally like in TES4, but i know they wanted to have their races within specific color ranges i guess... anyway, i like many choices only when its relevent, i think its crap that there's over 15 races and classes in EQ2 but you can only have 4 characters PER ACCOUNT... whereas i had like 6 or something chars per everquest server, but now you either have to delete a character that you absolutely don't want to use anymore, or i think you can buy extra slots or something in EQ2? or at least i heard so, i don't actively play those games anymore, but since the latest expansions i'm going to try out EQ2 again. for an EQ3, if i had some control over the project, i would bring back the idea of AAs from everquest, allow full custom colors for characters, bring back the vah shir race because "vah shir > kerra", i liked the harvesting and tradeskill system of EQ2, but there should be a time limit for how long you can have item loaded on your bazaar-trader-thing so people can't just have a giant ammount of junk they are offline for like a week, thats not fair. first of all, some items should have a minimun value so we don't have everything at 1 copper cuz people are impatiently trying to get rid of their stuff. some things should have a minimun value so newer people don't have to over drop and so everyone has a decent sale. example would be like a level 15 ore of some sort, make it so it can't go under 15 c, so everyone who wants to put it up to sell has a chance to be chosen by whoever who needs to buy it. the minimun should be in copper pieces times the level of the item, i think that would work out. and you have to be logged onto that character within every 12 hours otherwise your selling items will discontinue being up on the broker? i think its called broker, anyway, otherwise all people will do is over harvest and log out for days. as for classes, i would like the original everquest ones back but with more even play balance but still retain a lot of old abilities while at the same time making new exciting ones :-) like feign death and stuff, what happend to that in EQ2? and i think a more adult rated game should be implemented with a step back from the overly flush lush graphics, and more realism and blood gore. i'm not asking for a violent pornagraphy, but just something a little less DragonForce and a little more Rhapsody of Fire... lol, only people who know those bands will understand the anology, ;p but yeah, i'm out of ideas atm, and this would take a team of like-minded people to even make a better game than whats already out, but personally i would think it would be cool on a different note, if bethesda and SoE made a Elder Scrolls MMO ;) |
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I wouldn't anticipate there being an actual EQIII, for the mere fact that we saw the impact EQII had on the EQ player base. I would welcome an EQIII as an 'old school' player, however it would have to somehow fit in the EQ/EQII lore story line, could be a little complicated if not just plane contrite. Has anyone heard or seen any news pertaining to EQIII?
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Originally posted by Otiro
maybe some glasses
Compare to this:
In my opinion, the first 3 pictures look better, more realistic, more detail. Just over all better. The armor on the horse looks good, but the armor the wolf guy is wearing looks painted on with no depth to it. This is from Vanguard correct? I don't know what it is about that game, but the characters always look like they just don't belong there.
In that second place, when you go to it by ship. I couldnt help but think I was apart of some jason and the arganaut scene, the giant rock cliffs that the boat passes by as just immaculate, I could hardly believe the depth that they brought, one of the coolest mmo exploring experienced Ive ever had and I was just randomly browsing around EQ2. Sadly there are so few players in the lowbie areas so its practically a single play game till I get to a high level, and even then its very tight knit and alot of them are pureley RP. EQ2 deffinently has awsome places, anyone that calls it lame obviously doesnt like skydiving because it's too slow. Some people only talk sh!t online. I'll talk sh!t online and i'll say it to your face. |
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I don't care much for the Iksar or Kerra models.
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Looking at the above pices of EQ2 and VG, I would have to say that the VG graphics are far superior to EQ2 graphics. |
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I hope there is a EverQuest 3, I think alot of people will play it. I also hope they have PvP right at the start. Not like EQ2 where they added it in after 2yrs. |
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Lawl....
too many wish list ideas here. "Tell me what your gamer plays. |
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Simple for me I played EQ1 when it was released when i was 10 years old and i was very anoying for the older player but i disagree an EQ3 should be aim at a totally adult market, and i played EQ2 when they put the pvp servers back on and its a good game i quit after a few months as i figured out girls where more important than games so dont know what it means that im now at this moment waiting for the 5hr patch to get me back in to the everquest 2 game. just really worried im gona be in empty zones and thats my one problem with EQ games the expantions come to fast the levels are to easy to get through dont miss hell levels tho.
If theres going to be a EQ3 set it before EQ and when they release it close down EQ and EQ2 the same day. |
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Pictures of EQ2 shows what I didn't like... Hair looks like plastic. How hard is it to make better textures? :P Tho, EQ2 should get props for having 3D facial hairs tho, and not just a texture
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EQ2 was very well put together when you look at content and things to do....it was litterally forever. In WoW, you lvl and then Raid, that's it...nothing more.....WoW is a kindergarden and EQ2 was college....and Vangaurd would have been graduate school........
Anyway, the society we live in now is totally different than it was ten years ago. Now everyone, demands, not wants, but demandes instant gratification.....and if not, they rage and it is OK. (Thank you hippy generation that is now in power and ruining this country). So, you have to design a game that would feed this new mass of ppl who have computers or access to them. Ten years ago, not everyone had computers, today......well, my youngest daughter has two (desktop and laptop). There are many more younger kids out there today that want instant gratification. I think that is why WOW did well, and it ran on everyones computer. But, EQ3....I would love to see it not be so simple. Let the lvling and questing stay like it is now but add some special or epic quests that were like the old quests in EQ. Yes, that means the WOW kids will miss them but if they are in a mature guild or involved in the meta game, they will find out. It might make things even exciting for them. I say this as I am playing Aion and I read all the stupidity that comes accross the General chat channel....all the references to WOW and other ppl's mothers. I can tell they are all ex-WOW kiddies by their attitudes. However, they really like the look of the characters and the idea of flying (I got my vertical movement fix with CoX and CO) and they are being introduced to a little bit of grinding and actually hard work and dedication. The requirements to lvl crafting are somewhat challenging to a player that played WoW and could just power through everything. Many of these players complain but others tell them it is worth it. Also, these players are being told about other MMOs that they have never played or heard of...WAR, AoC, LoTRO, EQ, EQ2 FFXI, AC2, UO and the list goes on. I think Aion is actually preping these kids who are now growing up for a more challenging and eye opening MMO. Like I said before, WOW is kindergarden...these kids are ready for some higher education....don't hand them crayons....go the opposite direction with EQ3. BTW, I see EQ2 is still dumbing down for that player base.... |
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