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Originally posted by IcoGames
Wait ... are you claiming that you couldn't solo through pre-CU SWG? Sorry, but I was a one man mass extinction event on Dathomir. Maybe what he's really saying is that he sucks at MMOs, including SWG. To me you are fail if you can't play an MMO outside of a group, and TBH SWG did not have 30 man groups, the max was 20. I mean really, Tatooine hunting groups were for noobs with broken armor and crappy weapons lol.
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Originally posted by tillamook Maybe what he's really saying is that he sucks at MMOs, including SWG. To me you are fail if you can't play an MMO outside of a group, and TBH SWG did not have 30 man groups, the max was 20. There is no a doubt he was probably bad at the game. If this didn't give it away, the constant crying over hardcore unlockable jedi for ToR was, you can always spot weak links when they scream for alpha classes in MMOs. I still don't get how he fails to understand SWG was not suppose to have playable jedi "at all", yet he complains that this game will be full of them. Me:You're surrounded by darkspawn corpses, what happened here? |
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Originally posted by greed0104 Maybe what he's really saying is that he sucks at MMOs, including SWG. To me you are fail if you can't play an MMO outside of a group, and TBH SWG did not have 30 man groups, the max was 20. There is no a doubt he was probably bad at the game. If this didn't give it away, the constant crying over hardcore unlockable jedi for ToR was, you can always spot weak links when they scream for alpha classes in MMOs. I still don't get how he fails to understand SWG was not suppose to have playable jedi "at all", yet he complains that this game will be full of them.
jedi should be something special something a player should work long and hard for. why do you think the nge has fail and they are shutting down most of the servers it is due to the nge being a waste of time and making jedi a boring old starter class. people want unlockable jedi. and people want tor to be swg 2 |
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Originally posted by stillkillin
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Originally posted by stillkillin There is no a doubt he was probably bad at the game. If this didn't give it away, the constant crying over hardcore unlockable jedi for ToR was, you can always spot weak links when they scream for alpha classes in MMOs. I still don't get how he fails to understand SWG was not suppose to have playable jedi "at all", yet he complains that this game will be full of them.
jedi should be something special something a player should work long and hard for. why do you think the nge has fail and they are shutting down most of the servers it is due to the nge being a waste of time and making jedi a boring old starter class. people want unlockable jedi. and people want tor to be swg 2
No I don't agree that it should have made a starter class for the NGE, if anything it never should've never been in the game during this period. As a mater of fact Raph Koster said on another MMO site I’m member of that Jedi was never going to be a player class in the beginning, it was added in at the last minute. And originally perma death was supposed to remove the class from your access forever, till you did another holocron unlock keeping Jedi limited. But this never happened because everyone wanted Jedi. So I guess you could say it was never "special". How bout them apples? For SWTOR, yes, Jedi should be a starter class since it’s an MMO for one, for two it fits in with this time period when lots of Jedi where around…end of story.
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Originally posted by tillamook There is no a doubt he was probably bad at the game. If this didn't give it away, the constant crying over hardcore unlockable jedi for ToR was, you can always spot weak links when they scream for alpha classes in MMOs. I still don't get how he fails to understand SWG was not suppose to have playable jedi "at all", yet he complains that this game will be full of them.
jedi should be something special something a player should work long and hard for. why do you think the nge has fail and they are shutting down most of the servers it is due to the nge being a waste of time and making jedi a boring old starter class. people want unlockable jedi. and people want tor to be swg 2
No I don't agree that it should have made a starter class for the NGE, if anything it never should've never been in the game during this period. As a mater of fact Raph Koster said on another MMO site I’m member of that Jedi was never going to be a player class in the beginning, it was added in at the last minute. And originally perma death was supposed to remove the class from your access forever, till you did another holocron unlock keeping Jedi limited. But this never happened because everyone wanted Jedi. So I guess you could say it was never "special". How bout them apples? For SWTOR, yes, Jedi should be a starter class since it’s an MMO for one, for two it fits in with this time period when lots of Jedi where around…end of story.
no it didn't people made tons of friends by going out and working in groups and helping one another reach the goal of being jedi the cost was good cuz back then crafters did there best to make sure everyone had good gear at good prices and jedi was rare just seeing a jedi would come as a shock to you and raph never said that link and proof. raph wanted jedi in swg from the start as did the players who saw it was going to be the best part of swg. in tor jedi should be rare and it should be unlocked and alpha like it was in swg being a starting class and a class isn't going to make people stay in tor |
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I think TOR will be a lot of fun but a MMO it is not at this point. |
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Originally posted by parrotpholk
i wouldn't call it an mmo at all and how long do you think it will be before bioware tries to put it on the lamebox 360 |
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Volvino
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Joined: 1/28/04
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I should get angry of you people making conclusions with so little information to support, but I’m not. I’m not angry as I’ve seen some pretty good MMOs die because they were so overhyped that they could not live up to the expectation. If people keep acting as they do they will be stunned if the game turns out to be good. This could be a good thing. - Who watches the watchmen? |
Originally posted by maskedweasel
I'll take that bet teala. Its already been said that you will have lots of areas where you will see people running around in certain zones.. although we aren't sure exactly how zoning will work quite yet.
If only star wars had some type of endgame mechanic where people could PvP or work together in endgame. Massive amounts like 200 vs 200 Sith vs Republic all out! |
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Originally posted by stillkillin
Nah .. there are plenty of SP games where everyone gets to be Jedi and they are successful. TOR is the right way to go. |
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Originally posted by parrotpholk
So? As long as it is fun, who cares? |
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maskedweasel
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Joined: 9/24/07
"Kids, try imagining how far the universe extends! Keep thinking about it until you go insane." |
Originally posted by stillkillin
i wouldn't call it an mmo at all and how long do you think it will be before bioware tries to put it on the lamebox 360
Yes, ... oh yes... it will be an MMO, whether you think it will or not. |
Originally posted by stillkillin
How many times do you have to be told alpha classes is a horrible idea for MMOs. Go play a single player. Of coarse ToR will be loaded with Jedi. Atleast know something about Star Wars Old Republic era before you come on here babbling about your agenda. I already told you to look up Order 66, for more then one reason. It should answer your questions on why jedi shouldn't have been in SWG (As a player class), and why ToR will be full of them. But that requires the ability to read, right?
Really your entire post made no sense, I decyphered what I could. Punctuation, do you know what that is? Me:You're surrounded by darkspawn corpses, what happened here? |
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Originally posted by stillkillin
jedi should be something special something a player should work long and hard for. why do you think the nge has fail and they are shutting down most of the servers it is due to the nge being a waste of time and making jedi a boring old starter class. people want unlockable jedi. and people want tor to be swg 2
No I don't agree that it should have made a starter class for the NGE, if anything it never should've never been in the game during this period. As a mater of fact Raph Koster said on another MMO site I’m member of that Jedi was never going to be a player class in the beginning, it was added in at the last minute. And originally perma death was supposed to remove the class from your access forever, till you did another holocron unlock keeping Jedi limited. But this never happened because everyone wanted Jedi. So I guess you could say it was never "special". How bout them apples? For SWTOR, yes, Jedi should be a starter class since it’s an MMO for one, for two it fits in with this time period when lots of Jedi where around…end of story.
no it didn't people made tons of friends by going out and working in groups and helping one another reach the goal of being jedi the cost was good cuz back then crafters did there best to make sure everyone had good gear at good prices and jedi was rare just seeing a jedi would come as a shock to you and raph never said that link and proof. raph wanted jedi in swg from the start as did the players who saw it was going to be the best part of swg. in tor jedi should be rare and it should be unlocked and alpha like it was in swg being a starting class and a class isn't going to make people stay in tor Ok I've come to the conclusion you have never really played SWG now. Oh and here's your links www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php OMG, he thinks Holo drops are what killed SWG, imagine that?
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SWG fanbois want TOR to be SWG 2 and the more they find out TOR is going to be a WoW clone with a story arc and cinimatics, the louder they are going to cry about it. Finkel is Einhorne. Just because you add bewbs and tuck the junk doesn't change it. No one from the real Bioware is working on TOR. The creative director has been quoted hundreds of times about how he feels WoW is a stepping stone for the market and to make a mainstream MMO work it has to follow that linear themepark model. That is what they are doing. Get over it. TOR = (WoW - Warcraft) * Star Wars. End of story. And the Jedi argument is mute. Jedi is a hero class. TOR is a single player themepark with multiplayer options. Get over it. |
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Originally posted by Draccan
They are a skilled developer and I was rooting for this game and will still try it but ya I was hoping for (what I call) a MMO, let me clarify and this is just my openion and I know it doesn't suit every one. To me a player in a MMO should not be the star of the story, you should be one of many an actor (rather minor at that) in a larger story beyond the scope of your character and perhaps they will give that so again I will try it. This is one major factor I did not like about AoC I loved the games mechanics I still think thous mechanics with less of a focus on the indavidual and more on the mass would make a killer game the IP they chose was perfect for that. I still hope some day to see a solid MMO set in the Star Wars IP where I can be not the be all end all hero of the story but an actor in the greater story heres hoping my interpretation of the above is off. |
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Originally posted by nariusseldon
So? As long as it is fun, who cares?
I agree if its fun I will play. As to all the anti Jedi as a class with TOR's take on it you could do Jedi as I dont hink of Jedi as the be all end all supper powers that we felt they where in the traditional story but rather skilled trained warriors aken to well a knight or a templar in many other games/stories. Perhaps Im off from the argument I never got into SWG and I know TOR from Knights of the old republic but all in all I think its a fine class option assuming its not a uber class and has its draw backs liek any other class. If that is the case I wont likely play as a Jedi or its dark side counter part. |
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Originally posted by LodenDSG You're right, both Jedi and Sith were far from being super powerful. Their mystical connection to something fictional, like the force, has given people the impression they are super heroes/villians. Yet people forget that a skilled marksman could take a Jedi/Sith out from the top of a building with a rifle. I guess it's disregarded because being a skilled marksman is possible in real life.
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Originally posted by KupoKupopo
I don't think all of SWG failed miserably... Pre-NGE was a great game and becoming a jedi in that system was very rewarding i thought... now and in TOR everyone and anyone can just BE a jedi... so we will see how TOR plays out...
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Look at the time line it is set in, jedi are as common as everyone else here so why would you differentiate them from everyone else by making them an unlockable class or making them rare? If you don't like that fact then don't play the game as you won't enjoy it. I think people are making a massive deal out of this for no reason at all. I personally don't think jedi will be as popular as everyone thinks, the other classes look far more impressive. Water cooled Intel Corei7 920 D0 Stepping OC'd 4.3GHz - 6GB Corsair Dominator GT RAM 2000Mhz - ASUS RAGE II EXTREME X58 Mobo - 2x HD 5870 in Crossfire X, OC'd 0.9Ghz core 1.3Ghz RAM - Dell 2407WFP Flat Panel LCD 24" 1920x1200 My HD 4890Graphics cards are for sale (UK) residents only £220 quid for the pair or 100 quid each they are just over two weeks old. |
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I just have to ask the question, why can't the game be story driven and an RPG?
I mean, they said in a video I think I watched from PAX that it would have plaer housing and things of that nature. I'm sure it will have a very open world. Perhaps the story is something you can go in/out of? Like if you feel like jumping back in at any time you can but when you don't want to there's lots of other things you can. |
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Originally posted by bleed0range
I'm not sure what you mean by being story driven and be an RPG at the same time, seems they have that covered. But what I think you are getting at is, can you stop doing the story, level as much as you want, then go back? I have no clue, but I really doubt it, since it's story "driven". There are other things to do besides story from what I have seen. Couple articles have kinda hinted at the possibility of Mission Terminals. If this can be used to skip story and level, not sure. Me:You're surrounded by darkspawn corpses, what happened here? |
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Originally posted by KupoKupopo
Because there are instances? He clearly said there are areas where there can be numerous people running around (just like a normal MMO). I guess you just chose to ignore that part. Just be honest. You're crying that this is not SWG2. But why would they make a sequel to a game that failed miserably?
SWG didn't fail. Smedley broke it.
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Originally posted by Staticblue
SWG was broken before the NGE hit. The NGE just made it, uh, Broken-er? Me:You're surrounded by darkspawn corpses, what happened here? |
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