Originally posted by Lydon

People can mock it all they want, but NCsoft are smiling all the way to the bank.

lol if they smile they must not be hard to contend lol

i wouldnt smile when i see an old dodering game like wow beat the crapt out of any mmo that dare pass close to their turf

next year same date we ll see how great aion and all the hidden trump cards were,or if it was just another smoke wall (a la aocor war)

Originally posted by googajoob7

lol @ all the trolls who cant seam to get it through thier heads yet that this game is the next big thing . troll away you wont change anything this ones a winner .

I don t think I m a troll but can you tell me why it s a winner. I have played it to 30 so tell me what I m missing.

Originally posted by Mark701

Am I to understand that this game hasn't been released yet? With the number of screenshots on this site I honestly thought it had gone live. Now I'm thinking that the majority of the screen shots are part of a clever marketing ploy aimed at adolescent boys who want to create large breasted avatars with their belly buttons showing. Imagine my surprise.

ok, nooby there are the closed beta and open beta that were availible for you so piss off and don't bitch about the game not being out it will be here on the 20th so hold on to your nut sac and stop downing NC soft new AION  ...

as for the other people thinking this game will die off after a few months... your ALL sniffing Glue !

 honestly, this kind of stupid thread is just a waste of time. What does it change? 6 months from now we will see how the game is in the market, not now.

Fortunately the haters can rant what they want and make up numbers about cancelations, fans can say its the best game ever, nothing of that changes anything.

Originally posted by Mark701

Am I to understand that this game hasn't been released yet? With the number of screenshots on this site I honestly thought it had gone live. Now I'm thinking that the majority of the screen shots are part of a clever marketing ploy aimed at adolescent boys who want to create large breasted avatars with their belly buttons showing. Imagine my surprise.

game was released a number of months ago in the east (Korea, china) allot of people had been playing there.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

When did men stop liking hot chicks? Ive seen many posts about how the female toons in Aion are too sexy. Lets all petition game devs everywhere to make fat, ugly female toons that wear burkas, then these sensitive men will not be so offended.

Well said, Grandpa :) 

Originally posted by Rajen

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by Rajen

 I don't see all of those buyers staying with the game after a few months tops.

 

 

I pre-ordered it myself but after playing all the betas I am not going to follow through with my order. I'm sure there are a good number of people that are doing the same.

 

I'm willing to bet you're wrong.  Until something comes down the pipe that brings a completely new model that can actually appease these next gen gamers that are unhappy with the current model (And that looks much later than sooner) then Aion is one of the most polished newer games out there even if it is a new take on an old model.  That's more than WoW can say as even with their expansions it's just revisiting the old and making minor content changes using the same "engine" if you will.  Combat is the same, instances the same, phat loot is the same, all of the things that you will utlimately be reminded of after a few months of the expansion being out will remind you why you thought about leaving before the expansion came out.  It's just a way of prolonging the inevitable. 

Now an argument can be made that Aion will get there too and while that may ultimately be true the difference is that with Aion we don't know when that will be and how that will look.  WoW is a known where Aion is an unknown and there are many more willing to explore the unknown than to tread back on the same old path they've been up and down so many times no matter how many curves you try to create in the path.

 

 

Yeah what I meant by that is the game just isn't enough for me to dedicate another few years too when we will be getting games a lot more up to date over the next 2-3 years. A few friends of mine were in the same boat (pre-ordered then cancel) I work at gamestop and we have had several people come in and cancel their preorders (about half the people that actually ordered it).

 

It just seems like there are a lot more people canceling preorders of this game than normal.

I can see that.  The thing though is I think that is a toss up because the choices that exist today are few and far between.  You have the WoW expansion which as I've said new paint on and old house but that being said some people may decide to wait out the old house until something that looks closer to what they want comes out.  But the gamble with that is you invest even more time into a game that will eventually lead you back to feeling like a waste of time.  Now Aion could also lead you to that same point but I'd be much happier investing time into something new and unknown than going back to the same old thing, but that's just my personal view.  I too want the next gen stuff as much as the next person but until then I'll get my fix in a polished game with a new take.

It should be as simple as we like MMOs, we know what we like, we have choices.  We play what we like and we don't play what we don't like.  What gets silly is when everyone talks about what they won't play and they don't like.  That energy could be better spent talking up the games you do like to play so that the devs get that positive feedback.  Believe me there isn't a single person here who doesn't know the negative feedback because that's like 99% of the posts.

You like it? Pick up the game and pay the subsciption until you don't.  Don't like it, find something else.  Not rocket science.  So you had to put down a few bucks for the beta...whoopie.  But anyone who is cancelling or signing up because of the feedback here is pretty ridiculous.  The only way you're going to know how you will like the game or not is by YOU playing it.

Originally posted by tryklon

 honestly, this kind of stupid thread is just a waste of time. What does it change? 6 months from now we will see how the game is in the market, not now.

Fortunately the haters can rant what they want and make up numbers about cancelations, fans can say its the best game ever, nothing of that changes anything.

The thread was created to get people to buy the game. The game is boring hell if a game cant even get you to want to play in OB, thier is something wrong with it... Well anyways only time will tell how many people will resub after the free month that comes with the game lol. I will be waiting for the next MMO

Originally posted by googajoob7

lol @ all the trolls who cant seam to get it through thier heads yet that this game is the next big thing . troll away you wont change anything this ones a winner .

Oh just what the genre needed another themepark that differs little from it's competition.  Some of you enjoy mindless entertainment.  Problem with that kind of entertainment it does not keep you interested long.  This game is so far from being the next big thing it is not even funny.  When the crafting system isn't even as good as Wow's, you deep lying problems that will eventually cause many to leave.

Wait till you hit the grind, it occurs in every eastern MMO.

I think thats the boat all the current mmo's are in, they are getting that hype driven initial sale then the nerfs and the SSDD syndrom sets in and your going ooo new world, new lore, same stuff I did in the last ten worlds. CO nerfed itself out of a lot of potential resubs, aion tried to much to copy wow.  Yes there are a lot of preorders but preorders do not say a game will do good, we the modern gaming comunity are all about the shiney new stuff. How many people out there complain about wasting the money on a new game a month after launch?

I hope Aion does well, I hope every mmo does well, but I just won't be playing them. As to why we hates the hot girls, a friend of mine made a point about another friend of mine. Friend 1 said: "I don't get why you guys play male tunes, I'd rather look at a hot girls backside while I play."

Friend 2 replied: "And I'd rather not get hit on by every 15 year old with an anime fetish."

Hence why the chicks be to hot, cause to many guys are playing chicks these days, the gender bending is a bit scary. At the right venerable old age of 26 I find I ignore the scenery all together, it's mobs, quests, and money for this old monk.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by googajoob7

lol @ all the trolls who cant seam to get it through thier heads yet that this game is the next big thing . troll away you wont change anything this ones a winner .

Oh just what the genre needed another themepark that differs little from it's competition.  Some of you enjoy mindless entertainment.  Problem with that kind of entertainment it does not keep you interested long.  This game is so far from being the next big thing it is not even funny.  When the crafting system isn't even as good as Wow's, you deep lying problems that will eventually cause many to leave.

Wait till you hit the grind, it occurs in every eastern MMO.

just as you would hit a grind in every western MMO.

That sounds like 300k pre-orders just for Europe as the interview only talks about European release.

Would love to hear about numbers from their official website rather than from an interview though.

Originally posted by FastTx

Originally posted by Rajen

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by Rajen

 I don't see all of those buyers staying with the game after a few months tops.

 

 

I pre-ordered it myself but after playing all the betas I am not going to follow through with my order. I'm sure there are a good number of people that are doing the same.

 

I'm willing to bet you're wrong.  Until something comes down the pipe that brings a completely new model that can actually appease these next gen gamers that are unhappy with the current model (And that looks much later than sooner) then Aion is one of the most polished newer games out there even if it is a new take on an old model.  That's more than WoW can say as even with their expansions it's just revisiting the old and making minor content changes using the same "engine" if you will.  Combat is the same, instances the same, phat loot is the same, all of the things that you will utlimately be reminded of after a few months of the expansion being out will remind you why you thought about leaving before the expansion came out.  It's just a way of prolonging the inevitable. 

Now an argument can be made that Aion will get there too and while that may ultimately be true the difference is that with Aion we don't know when that will be and how that will look.  WoW is a known where Aion is an unknown and there are many more willing to explore the unknown than to tread back on the same old path they've been up and down so many times no matter how many curves you try to create in the path.

 

 

Yeah what I meant by that is the game just isn't enough for me to dedicate another few years too when we will be getting games a lot more up to date over the next 2-3 years. A few friends of mine were in the same boat (pre-ordered then cancel) I work at gamestop and we have had several people come in and cancel their preorders (about half the people that actually ordered it).

 

It just seems like there are a lot more people canceling preorders of this game than normal.

 

That is because players preordered simply to get beta keys and had no intention of buying it in the first place. They saw it as a free game to pass the time with a $5 deposit. The consumer is catching on to the "pre order now and get into beta!" marketing campaign. So preorders really don't mean anything I guess.

Where did you get your data from??? These numbers are sales that have paid "full price" for the game. I paid full price a couple months ago.

Originally posted by EricDanie

That sounds like 300k pre-orders just for Europe as the interview only talks about European release.

Would love to hear about numbers from their official website rather than from an interview though.

Why?  Is this some sort of figure that gives people the "green light" to play the game nowadays?  That's pretty dart stupid if so.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

When did men stop liking hot chicks? Ive seen many posts about how the female toons in Aion are too sexy. Lets all petition game devs everywhere to make fat, ugly female toons that wear burkas, then these sensitive men will not be so offended.

Lol - great comment!

 All you people that say that Aion sucks I have a question.

What mmo out now is better? I cant think of a singel one.

What are you playing now that is soooo much better?

WoW? LOL

War? performance issues

CO? just a pile of turd

So what is there that is better?

Nah.... I will just stick to hotcakes then

Originally posted by spawn12345

 All you people that say that Aion sucks I have a question.

What mmo out now is better? I cant think of a singel one.

What are you playing now that is soooo much better?

WoW? LOL

War? performance issues

CO? just a pile of turd

So what is there that is better?

Actually I like all of those and AOC better than wings online.   But hey, if you like it good for you.  I'm just gonna wait for something good.

1. It is only pre-orders so no big deal.

2. 300k for the NA/EU players base is nothing more than a drop in a bucket. It means that 300k is pretty pitiful compared to the entire NA/EU player base. It is nothing to brag about.

Originally posted by Rajen

 I don't see all of those buyers staying with the game after a few months tops.

 I pre-ordered it myself but after playing all the betas I am not going to follow through with my order. I'm sure there are a good number of people that are doing the same.

+1  Exactly what I was going to post.

Originally posted by mmaize

Originally posted by EricDanie

That sounds like 300k pre-orders just for Europe as the interview only talks about European release.

Would love to hear about numbers from their official website rather than from an interview though.

 

Why?  Is this some sort of figure that gives people the "green light" to play the game nowadays?  That's pretty dart stupid if so.

Nope, ever felt curious about something? That kind of silly curiosity in which you'll gain nothing from the information, but you still would like to know it anyway, and it's not like you HAVE to know it.

Lol... This thread is entertaining. Want to sum all of this up in one word... OPINION.

Originally posted by Thradar

Originally posted by Rajen

 I don't see all of those buyers staying with the game after a few months tops.

 I pre-ordered it myself but after playing all the betas I am not going to follow through with my order. I'm sure there are a good number of people that are doing the same.

 

+1  Exactly what I was going to post.

Someone predicted the Bears to win the superbowl too and it was someone far more credible to the NFL than anyone here to the MMO world, so I guess I should just stop watching football.

I will be one of the ones playing after a few months, not really worried about it.

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by SuperHans

I give this game four months before it has less than 200k active subscribers. 

 . . . and your point would be?

Subscriptions numbers have become nothing more than a penis waggling-contest.  No one on these forums is an investor so why do you care?  If the game has enough people playing to keep the game alive that is all that matters.

So true but look it how Blizzard markets WoW. If you look on their game boxes they put the number of subscribers on their for marketing purposes.  To me and you and other people out their may not care about subscription numbers but to mmos companies it is a big deal.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

When did men stop liking hot chicks? Ive seen many posts about how the female toons in Aion are too sexy. Lets all petition game devs everywhere to make fat, ugly female toons that wear burkas, then these sensitive men will not be so offended.

Who says the people complaining were men?  These sorts of complaints can generally be expected from an organization of people (men and women) that are aimed at specific topics such as this.  I seriously doubt it was a general gamer's concern.