No, they shouldn't.

First off, Abyss is a word in english meaning "hell", "Chasm", "Endless space", "terrible situation". Pretty sure the band didn't copyright that ;)

Second, AION is not original to either the game or the CD. A quick Google search reveals another use of Aion (there was also an Aion.com but it just said "Stealth more since 1996, not for sale, and contact info):

http://www.aion-needlecrafts.co.uk/

It also the name of a Vans tennis show, a book about human minds, and an anime character.

In the end AION, is also a work with a meaning. It namely comes from the Old and New Testament of The Holy Bible and it's meaning, while slightly disputed, is "Eternal", "Endless", "Age", "World", "A place of torment and damnation". All of them make sense in the game's context (in face, here's my reference link: http://www.occultcorpus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=604 ).

And their wings, many wings look like that.

In the end, no, they can't sue. They used two words, used in many other places, each with meanings. One, Abyss, is a pretty commonly used English word. Then Aion, a less common foreign word. 

one thing is sure we see how imaginative the dev of aion were ,for god sake could they at least have changed the name of the game for noia

Originally posted by bastii

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Neither are you my friend

 

I didn't say they had no case, I asked if he should sue. If they have a case or not is up to a judge. But anyone with a brain can see this is copied.

You asked.. I told you no they wouldn't have a case.

PS- Anyone with a brain would realize it's a heavily religiously themed game (Angels, Demons, and Aion being a deity).   You can't copyright wings, angels, and demons.  Again no dice.  You asked a question, but don't like the answer. 

Copyright law is pretty lax when it comes to song titles and such.  You cannot copyright a band name, but you could possibly get a Trademark if it was original enough.

Book titles in general cannot be copyrighted.  Some can be protected under Trademark, but not copyright.

The band would have absolutely no case, at least in the U.S.

www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

"Can I copyright the name of my band?
No. Names are not protected by copyright law. Some names may be protected under trademark law"

The also don't look anything like the wings in Aion.. the statues also have horns.  As another poster said.. it looks like an entrance to a graveyard.

Originally posted by scodavis

Copyright law is pretty lax when it comes to song titles and such.  You cannot copyright a band name, but you could possibly get a Trademark if it was original enough.

Book titles in general cannot be copyrighted.  Some can be protected under Trademark, but not copyright.

 

The band would have absolutely no case, at least in the U.S.

 

www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

 

"Can I copyright the name of my band?
No. Names are not protected by copyright law. Some names may be protected under trademark law"

Bingo.

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by bastii

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Neither are you my friend

 

I didn't say they had no case, I asked if he should sue. If they have a case or not is up to a judge. But anyone with a brain can see this is copied.

 

You asked.. I told you no they wouldn't have a case.

PS- Anyone with a brain would realize it's a heavily religiously themed game (Angels, Demons, and Aion being a deity).   You can't copyright wings, angels, and demons.  Again no dice.  You asked a question, but don't like the answer. 

They sure could sue them. if it was intentional or not is not something I am going to judge. But any sane person could look at those two things and see striking similarities. Sure wings, angels and demons aren't copyrighted individually. But put them all together almost identically and there are problems.

Originally posted by mrw0lf

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

Uhm no, if you used McDonald's logo with the golden arches and named your product after their hamburger, you'd get your butt sued.

Originally posted by bastii

Originally posted by mrw0lf

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

 

Uhm no, if you used McDonald's logo with the golden arches and named your product after their hamburger, you'd get your butt sued.

mmm..... you get a lot of headches right?

Originally posted by mrw0lf

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

That was actually one of the jokes in Coming to America ;)

They'd get you because it was the same industry.. it's like you're trying to dupe them into thinking you're mcdonalds... however this case.. the band would not be able to claim that.

Also Aion is a name of a deity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(deity)

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by mrw0lf

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

 

That was actually one of the jokes in Coming to America ;)

 

They'd get you because it was the same industry.. it's like you're trying to dupe them into thinking you're mcdonalds... however this case.. the band would not be able to claim that.

Also Aion is a name of a deity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(deity)

Cool, lets make it a hardware (I can speak american) store then.

Maybe after that polish band sues NCsoft, this Japanese Metal band can sue the polish band for stealing their name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(Japanese_band)

Please get the sarcasm....

Originally posted by Pryetta

Maybe after that polish band sues NCsoft, this Japanese Metal band can sue the polish band for stealing their name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(Japanese_band)

Please get the sarcasm....

Because stealing a name = stealing name, design, logo, zone design, song names, tree design, gate design

Right?

Originally posted by qotsa

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by bastii

Originally posted by SgtFrog

Neither are you my friend

 

I didn't say they had no case, I asked if he should sue. If they have a case or not is up to a judge. But anyone with a brain can see this is copied.

 

You asked.. I told you no they wouldn't have a case.

PS- Anyone with a brain would realize it's a heavily religiously themed game (Angels, Demons, and Aion being a deity).   You can't copyright wings, angels, and demons.  Again no dice.  You asked a question, but don't like the answer. 

They sure could sue them. if it was intentional or not is not something I am going to judge. But any sane person could look at those two things and see striking similarities. Sure wings, angels and demons aren't copyrighted individually. But put them all together almost identically and there are problems.

If you put them all together you wouldn't have a case either... Angels, wings and demons are almost always used together.  Do you want examples?  Heroes of Might and Magic?

Did you seriously thik out what you were saying?  You're saying that if you add wings, angels and demons together you got copyrght infringement... wow come on man. 

Any sane person is probably just marveling at selective memory in this thread.  Angels, demons and wings are *common* stock in fantasy games.

Originally posted by Pryetta

Maybe after that polish band sues NCsoft, this Japanese Metal band can sue the polish band for stealing their name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(Japanese_band)

Please get the sarcasm....

joke aside,the similarities between them is too much alike any lawyer in the world would jump on this case to sue ncsoft 

but only after game is released worldwide

lawyer dont carew about the right or the wrong they care about money tho

and i bet you lot of lawyer would takle this case (if its not a prank from a kid who doent like aion lol

Originally posted by bastii

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Depends, does this band have copyright on their name, material and art?

 

I believe so, it's from pavement records, they are now owned by Crash Music inc.

Then should Crash Bandicoot sue Crash Music???

Originally posted by qotsa

      They sure could sue them. if it was intentional or not is not something I am going to judge. But any sane person could look at those two things and see striking similarities. Sure wings, angels and demons aren't copyrighted individually. But put them all together almost identically and there are problems.

Certainly they could sue, anyone can, but they would be laughed out of court and probably be found liable for the other party's court costs.

Sanity has nothing to do with it, we're talking about the law.  Please refer to my earlier post where I link to a United States of America government site that should settle this argument if you would just take the time to read it.

Here it is again:  www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

"Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation..."

"Can I copyright the name of my band?
No. Names are not protected by copyright law"

Aion would have to copy one of the band's songs to be in trouble.  Now if that Polish band also produced a video game, then NcSoft would be in trouble.

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by mrw0lf

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

 

That was actually one of the jokes in Coming to America ;)

 

They'd get you because it was the same industry.. it's like you're trying to dupe them into thinking you're mcdonalds... however this case.. the band would not be able to claim that.

Also Aion is a name of a deity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(deity)

 

Cool, lets make it a hardware (I can speak american) store then.

http://www.mcdonaldshardware.com

Like say that?  No dice.

 lol @ wowkiddies grasping for straws,quit your QQ and doom and gloom and head back to your ghost servers.

Originally posted by demolishIX

 lol @ wowkiddies grasping for straws,quit your QQ and doom and gloom and head back to your ghost servers.

No one mentioned WoW until you did, grats.

Originally posted by bastii

Originally posted by Pryetta

Maybe after that polish band sues NCsoft, this Japanese Metal band can sue the polish band for stealing their name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(Japanese_band)

Please get the sarcasm....

 

Because stealing a name = stealing name, design, logo, zone design, song names, tree design, gate design

Right?

Yeah because you know...this Japanese Band actually has some of the same designs, logos, AND even have a song called Aion...and an album called Aionism. And you know the group sorta looks like they could pass off as Asmodians...

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Originally posted by Angier2758

Originally posted by mrw0lf

So I want to start this restaurant. My name is Mark so my logo is going to be a big M. I like yellow and clowns, so I'm thinking a big yellow M with a clown. Now I can see similaritites here but the letter M has been used for centuries in many, many cultures. A quick google search for 'M' will show that its been used quite fequently by a lot of people, my parents when they named me for one. Also Clowns are pretty popular and they've been used quite abit too, circus' most notably. I really see no problem with this.

 

That was actually one of the jokes in Coming to America ;)

 

They'd get you because it was the same industry.. it's like you're trying to dupe them into thinking you're mcdonalds... however this case.. the band would not be able to claim that.

Also Aion is a name of a deity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aion_(deity)

 

Cool, lets make it a hardware (I can speak american) store then.

 

http://www.mcdonaldshardware.com/welding-tools-forms.html

 

Like say that?  No dice.

Where's his big yellow M or clowns, I see no clowns. There are however kilts and I kinda like the kilts thing too, so maybe a clown in a kilt.

Disclosure: I have played WoW before. I puked blood for a week but I did play it.

The only real argument is maybe the name (which you can't copyright) everything else is fantasy stock.  Like the other guy said you'd get laughed out of court.

Originally posted by scodavis

Originally posted by qotsa

      They sure could sue them. if it was intentional or not is not something I am going to judge. But any sane person could look at those two things and see striking similarities. Sure wings, angels and demons aren't copyrighted individually. But put them all together almost identically and there are problems.

 

Certainly they could sue, anyone can, but they would be laughed out of court and probably be found liable for the other party's court costs.

Sanity has nothing to do with it, we're talking about the law.  Please refer to my earlier post where I link to a United States of America government site that should settle this argument if you would just take the time to read it.

Here it is again:  www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

"Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation..."

you havent went to court in a long time have you.in usa there are million of lawsut triggered by the governement way more silly 

then this 

lot of lawyer sue for baught copyright 

they dont make stuff they only buy copy or pay inventor to think of a possible futur invention

lot of telecomunication company are stuck in court because of theose closet company that sue 

in usa court is one if not the biggest industry 

if that polish band doesnt sue ,they only have themselves to blame 

it doesnt mather if this is true,that band will be overflowing with phonecall from lawyer firm that wants to represent them in court